Blind Vias in Ultiboard v9 and v10

I have been dealing with EWB for some months now on a problem with placing blind vias into Ultiboard designs. They have been "working on it" without any good solutions. I would like to see if there are other users with this issue. For grins I would like users to set up a 4 layer PCB in the PCB Options. Check that the blind vias checkboxes are checked. Draw a board outline and then place a via inside the board outline. When prompted set the via to go from Copper Top to Inner1. Next check the 3D view. Note that the via at this point is blind and does not appear on the Copper Bottom. Now right click on the via in the design window and select Properties. Now click on the Autorouting Layers tab. Note that the only checkboxes that appear are the Copper Top and Inner 1. Click OK. Right click the via again and select Properites. Once again check the Autorouting Layers tab and notice that all the layers show up (Copper Top, Inner1, Inner2, and Copper Bottom). Now check the 3d view and note that the via has magically became a through hole and shows up on the Copper Bottom. The real gotcha is that if we hide the Copper Top and Inner1 in the design view the via will not show up on Inner 2 and Copper Bottom. The other gotcha is that if we were to export the Gerber data we would find there is truly data on all 4 layers. This is not an easy fix inside your design once this happens. Even if you do the "work around" that EWB told me to do it still does not update the Excellon Drill output. I had to manually tweak the drill file even after I went through the "work around" process. I just want to verify that I am not alone in this anomoly. I can't believe that it is something specific to my system and furthermore I can't believe that this has made it clear to version 10! Don't get caught like me deep into a design with a number of blind vias and find out about this. EWB you have a MAJOR problem.

Hello bgoracke:
First of all - thank you very much for your feedback - we always welcome your comments to help drive continued improvements to the product platform. The problem that you are encountering with Ultiboard 9/10 has come to the attention of the Electronics Workbench Group R&D team very recently. Based on the importance of the issue, R&D has given it a very high priority. It is currently being fixed (and tested) and it will be available in the next update for version 10.
For anyone currently facing the same issue with blind or buried vias in Ultiboard, the workaround is to avoid loading the properties for that via. Simply place the via in the board and do not call its properties after placement. Currently, loading the properties (double-click or by right-click>properties) resets the via settings and causes it to become a via that crosses all layers. If you accidentally load the properties, click Cancel and it won't modify the via. Clicking OK or Apply will reset the via to a through-board via. If you have currently some vias with this issue, you can 'replace' them with new vias and the error will be eliminated.
Best regards,
Nestor Sanchez
Applications Engineering
Electronics Workbench Group
National Instruments
Nestor
National Instruments

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Beginners Guide sound installation -- OSS and ALSA objective features

Beginners Guide sound installation -- OSS and ALSA objective features needed
Hi,
In most wiki pages i just edit the things that i think need editing. Just look at the oss history
In all those cases i didn't really saw a need to ask for permission.. that would kinda destroy the wiki idea.
However i want to change the sound instructions in the beginners guide so i made a copy of the entire guide and the part that i changed there is: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Use … ling_Sound now i have a slight issue there. As you can see i'm in favor of OSS and because you can spot that it's not objective. Now i would ask 2 things.
1. Could you all post your features of OSS and ALSA
2. Once that's done can i have permission to place that section in the beginners guide? that will also include removing the sound installation from the beginners guide which i already did in my version
My personal reason to do this. i've read this and am since then pro OSS and against the ALSA/PulseAudio combo. i think that combo needs to get out of linux (most notably Fedora and Ubuntu) ASAP. and oss needs to go back into the linux kernel
Thank you for your time,
Mark

ngoonee wrote:
I'm an alsa/pulse user, so I'll give a bit of the 'other side'.
Alsa/pulse
Pros:-
network sound
advanced connection of sink/source (including merging sinks)
bluetooth support!
highly supported by existing apps, either through directly supporting Pulse or through its alsa plugin (you should not need to recompile properly-written apps which do not assume they should write audio data directly to hardware, I think I only needed to recompile mpd on my system)
Cons:-
Setup isn't the easiest. Can't comment vs OSS4 because I haven't tried it
OSS4
Pros:-
Everyone seems to say sound quality is better. I guess that's because they're comparing it with dmix alsa. Use pulse with alsa and you should not notice any difference in sound quality though.
Cons:-
Most apps nowadays default output to alsa. Meaning OSS plays them using an alsa plugin.
USB support is admittedly skimpy.
EDIT: Having read the sound article you referred to, my only comment is that the writer really has it in for Pulse... 3 seconds latency, where'd he get that from? I use pulse for audio recording (when I'm lazy to fire up JACK) and while there IS latency, its definitely in the ms range.
Thanx for the input
Gen2ly wrote:
Gen2ly wrote:...As a side note, do you need libflashsupport here???...
markg85, libflashsupport isn't needed. [1]
pacman -Ql oss | grep flash
If you don't know, please don't put in wiki, this could cause unnecessary problems. As for the mms section:
If your stream sounds ugly in totem like it did with me then you could try to play it with another codec like ffmpeg (mplayer). That "fixed" the issue for me. This will not fix the issue that somehow pops up in gstreamer when playing MMS streams but it will give you the option to play it with good sound quality. Playing it in mplayer is simple:
# mplayer mmsh://yourstreamurl
Could you fix this? ffmpeg is not a codec . Also define ugly, and what is somehow?
markg85 wrote:Thanx a lot for your feedback. i will certainly use it when i make more edits.
As for the things you didn't know. As soon as i fully understand how i can get a microphone working in OSS i will add that to the wiki as well. Unless you already know it.. in that case, feel free to add it.
For the mic, I did get mine going. Can't remember just how I did mine (sorry, think I had to disable one of the inputs), but do remember to prevent it from passing through the speakers had to disable "Misc Microphone".
# ossmix
Selected mixer 0/High Definition Audio ALC888
Known controls are:
jack.green.mode <front|rear|center/LFE|side|pcm4|input> (currently front)
jack.green [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 29.9:29.9 dB)
jack.green.mute ON|OFF (currently OFF)
jack.black.mode <front|rear|center/LFE|side|pcm4|input> (currently center/LFE)
jack.black [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 29.9:29.9 dB)
jack.black.mute ON|OFF (currently OFF)
jack.orange.mode <front|rear|center/LFE|side|pcm4|input> (currently rear)
jack.orange [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 29.9:29.9 dB)
jack.orange.mute ON|OFF (currently OFF)
jack.gray.mode <front|rear|center/LFE|side|pcm4|input> (currently pcm4)
jack.gray [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 29.9:29.9 dB)
jack.gray.mute ON|OFF (currently OFF)
jack.pink.mode <front|rear|center/LFE|side|pcm4|input> (currently input)
jack.pink [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 19.9:19.9 dB)
jack.pink.mute ON|OFF (currently OFF)
jack.fp-pink.mode <front|rear|center/LFE|side|pcm4|input> (currently front)
jack.fp-pink [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 29.9:29.9 dB)
jack.fp-pink.mute ON|OFF (currently OFF)
jack.blue.mode <front|rear|center/LFE|side|pcm4|input> (currently input)
jack.blue [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 29.9:29.9 dB)
jack.blue.mute ON|OFF (currently OFF)
jack.fp-green.mode <front|rear|center/LFE|side|pcm4|input> (currently front)
jack.fp-green [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 29.9:29.9 dB)
jack.fp-green.mute ON|OFF (currently OFF)
record.mix.mute.mic1 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
record.mix.mute.fp-mic1 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
record.mix.mute.linein1 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
record.mix.mute.fp-headphone1 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
record.mix.mute.green1 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
record.mix.mute.black1 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
record.mix.mute.orange1 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
record.mix.mute.gray1 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
record.mix.mute.input-mix1 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
record.mix1 [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 38.9:38.9 dB)
record.mix.mute.mic2 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
record.mix.mute.fp-mic2 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
record.mix.mute.linein2 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
record.mix.mute.fp-headphone2 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
record.mix.mute.green2 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
record.mix.mute.black2 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
record.mix.mute.orange2 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
record.mix.mute.gray2 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
record.mix.mute.input-mix2 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
record.mix2 [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 4.4:2.9 dB)
misc.mic [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 0.0:0.0 dB)
misc.fp-mic [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 46.4:37.4 dB)
misc.linein [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 38.9:38.9 dB)
misc.fp-headphone [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 34.4:34.4 dB)
misc.green [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 34.4:38.9 dB)
misc.black [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 38.9:38.9 dB)
misc.orange [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 38.9:38.9 dB)
misc.gray [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 40.4:41.9 dB)
misc.input-mix <mic|fp-mic|linein> (currently mic)
misc.front-mute ON|OFF (currently OFF)
misc.input-mix-mute1 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
misc.front1 [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 43.4:43.4 dB)
misc.front2 <front|input-mix> (currently front)
misc.rear-mute ON|OFF (currently OFF)
misc.input-mix-mute2 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
misc.rear1 [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 4.4:4.4 dB)
misc.rear2 <rear|input-mix> (currently rear)
misc.center/lfe-mute ON|OFF (currently OFF)
misc.input-mix-mute3 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
misc.center/lfe1 [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 41.9:41.9 dB)
misc.center/lfe2 <center/LFE|input-mix> (currently center/LFE)
misc.side-mute ON|OFF (currently OFF)
misc.input-mix-mute4 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
misc.side1 [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 35.9:35.9 dB)
misc.side2 <side|input-mix> (currently side)
misc.pcm4-mute ON|OFF (currently OFF)
misc.input-mix-mute5 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
misc.pcm41 [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 25.4:25.4 dB)
misc.pcm42 <pcm4|input-mix> (currently pcm4)
vmix0-enable ON|OFF (currently ON)
vmix0-rate <decimal value> (currently 48000) (Read-only)
vmix0-channels <Stereo|Multich> (currently Stereo)
vmix0-src <Fast|Low|Medium|High|High+|Production|OFF> (currently Medium)
vmix0-outvol <monovol> (currently 25.0 dB)
vmix0-invol <monovol> (currently 25.0 dB)
vmix0.pcm8 [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 19.9:19.9 dB) ("knotify4")
vmix0.pcm9 [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 25.0:25.0 dB)
vmix0.pcm10 [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 25.0:25.0 dB)
vmix0.pcm11 [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 25.0:25.0 dB)
For libflashsupport on the same page you linked it clearly states:
# Flash V9 and V10 require libflashsupport to output sound via OSS. Typically a 32-bit version of the library is required.
# Flash V10 has a 64-bit version which requires a 64 bit libflashsupport.
Also i tested it with and without libflashsupport. On archlinux (x64 running here) there most certainly is a need for libflashsupport when you want to have sound in your flash. And yes i tested the archlinux OSS version and the mercurial version (running now) bith need it installed manually! On my pc sound in flash didn't work without it but did with it. So, no not removing from the wiki as it's needed. But i see you removed it for me! please do NOT do that if you didn't even verified it. I use flash 10 x64 and i need it!
As for the ffmpeg "codec" changed it to backend.
And i did get the microphone working near perfect: http://www.4front-tech.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=13192
Now for some news you all might like.
On my school i need to do an investigation to whatever i want and i'm heavily thinking about investigating the pros/cons of alsa compared to oss (or oss compared to alsa). That investigation will take from monday next week till next mondey till friday 23 of oktober. In that investigation i'm going to do some in depth look of alsa and oss and that will include the usability as well.
Following up on that investigation i will spend another 8 weeks on my school making a volume control application that can be used with alsa and oss and easily expandable with other sound systems. The goal of this is to make one sound application that can manage (in the first place) alsa and oss. oss is going to be implemented and alsa is probably going to be dummy implemented because it's likely way to much for me to implement both.
Before you get to exited, both projects (investigating and making the application) are just made up today and i just don't know if both will get accepted by my school. I asked one teacher and he liked the idea a lot and could potentially have a value for the sound management under linux. Once i do get this started i will involve the community (YOU!) with this since this project can't be done without the community specially the investigation.
And once i start and have something to tell/ask i will blog about it on http://blog.mageprojects.com
edit::
And this idea already got dumped. read more a few posts down or click: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 34#p612634
Last edited by markg85 (2009-09-03 17:51:45)

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