Blu Ray Video

Can someone tell me if there is a difference between a BluRay player and a 3D BluRay player.
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To watch a standard Blu-Ray any player will work but as Jimmie said you MUST have a 3D Blu-Ray Player to play movies in 3D.

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Encore a good choice for authoring Blu-ray videos with complex menus?

I currently use FCP X for editing videos of live band performances. I have been dissapointed in Toast Titanium for aurthoring the resulting Blu-ray videos because of the limited menu options.......I will often have 30 separate videos on a Blu-ray disk (one per song).
I am considering buying Premiere Pro CS6 to obtain Encore because I have been told it provides more complex menu options.
(1) Are you happy with Encore for aurthoring Blu-ray videos?
(2) Would I also need to buy After Effects?
I ask the 2nd question because I have watched an excellent "Authoring with Adobe Encore" tutorial here:
http://www.precomposed.com/tutorials/products/pro_motion_menu_kits/Encore_Authoring/
These folks offer some nice looking Menu Kits
http://www.precomposed.com/products/pro_motion_menu_kits/
but they use After Effects as well as Encore.
Thanks for the help.

For your #1 question, you might want to go to that forum http://forums.adobe.com/community/encore

Encore won't create 5min simple blu ray video

I can't figure it out. I have a simple 4-5 minute video I worked with in Premiere and all I want to do is put it on a blu ray disc with no menu. It really doesn't get more simple than this. Using adobe dynamic link I'm able to create the build as an image. I burned it to a disc and it won't play. So I tried opening up the image using VLC media player and it won't open. Also I tried exporting the movie from Premiere as an MPEG2 and then importing it into Encore and same problem. Is the video too short? I've never had this problem.

Hi,
thanks for all the replies especially Stan for trying to replicate the problem! Here are some screen shots of what's on the disc:
Above: disc show the title of the movie
Above: Two folders on the disc
Above: Files inside BDMV
To answer Ann's question, Yes it is a BD disk and yes it is a BD project
Thanks!

Thoughts on using AME to transcode Blu-Ray video...?

My workflow for Blu-Ray and DVD from Premiere to Encore has had to change since the demise of the Dynamic Link (due to the lack of an Encore CC).
In many ways this has turned out to be a good thing.
My typical project is an opera performance captured on a high-end consumer camcorder (Sony HDR-CX550V) which records an AVCHD folder full of clips. I edit the project in Premiere, adding titles, chapter marks, dissolves etc. I have started to make two-camera projects as well.
I was distraught when I discovered that the link between Premiere and Encore no longer worked in Premiere CC, but soon discovered a great deal of power and flexibility in setting the file sizes by varying the target bit rate and making other changes (such as changing the default PCM sound to Dolby Digital which takes up a lot less space).
I have discovered a curious anomaly, though, with my Blu-Ray transfers. I understand that the preferred file for Encore to ingest as Blu-Ray would be the h.264 Blu-Ray but have discovered that it takes several hours to transcode...and once I'm done, Encore wants to transcode it all over again...another significant time period wasted. An opera such as MAGIC FLUTE, which the company played in 2 hours 51 minutes (without intermissions, etc.) took FIVE hours to transcode to h.264 Blu-Ray and then Encore listed it as a file to transcode (another 2 hours or so).
Along with the added time, the process requires so many multiple transcodes I can't imagine some quality is not lost.
I decided to experiment with the MPEG-2 Blu-Ray setting and found that while it made larger files (still controllable by setting the bit rate...it wants to choose 30 but since the CAMERA can't provide a file with more than 21, setting the target bit rate at 20 makes the video just about fit, with auudio set as Dolby Digital).
The encode time for the above file is just above 1 1/2 hours. Encore ultimately takes some time to index the file (maybe 20 minutes) but puts a "don't transcode" marker on it so no further transcode is done. However, it comes up with a message complaining that the metadata is corrupt and recommending that I delete the .XMPSES file (but will lose my chapter markings). I delete the file, re-import the .m2v file...the chapter markings come in just fine. Is there a reason AME has to make this .XMPSES file in a way that Encore has something to complain about?
Also...is there a reason AME can't output an h.264 file that doesn't have to be re-processed by Encore? I understand .m4v is more advanced and efficient...but if creating one is such a more difficult, time-consuming process and I get a more-than-acceptable result with the .m2v Blu-Ray file, is there any logical reason why I should still consider the "preferred" h.264 encoding?

I wasn't aware that Encore did this automatically.
What I DO know is that with the new workflow eliminating the Dynamic Link I have the responsibility to do my own bit budgeting, and the ability to make choices in the export process to maximize the quality of my output.
I have a customer base that I can best describe as "cheap"! I recommend they buy a Blu-Ray player or computer disc reader. Even with their flat-screen TVs, they still opt for DVD.
I make recordings of opera performances for the benefit of the opera company (small amateur and semi-pro companies in New York City) and the performers. They balk at the idea that, say, THE MAGIC FLUTE, which weighs in at 2 hours 50 minutes on average, needs to be delivered on 2 DVDs for maximum quality (and I'm going to bill an extra $5 over the cost of a single DVD). So, real estate on these discs is extremely tight. I don't use dual-layer because I find them neither reliable nor cost-effective; in my experience they take forever to burn, the error rate is through the roof and they cost significantly more than single-layer.
SO I accommodate by lowering the bit rate.
In Premiere (or later in AME) I choose my favorite preset (NTSC DV Wide Progressive). The timeline comes in at a whopping 7928 MB, far in excess of the 4.7GB allowed on a single layer DVD. By the single act of changing the audio manually from PCM to Dolby Digital, the amount magically descends to 6,333. Now we change the bit rate from 5 to 3.5 MBPS. The proposed project size goes to 4,503, and I'll take the risk of doing an image at that rate (although sometimes I get burned by having the project exceed disc capacity and have to go back and do it again, since the numbers displayed as proposed project size are predictions/good-faith estimates AND there are other elements that have to go on the disc; since the transcode only takes about 45 minutes now, that's not a big deal). Yes, that's going to make a blurrier image than 5MBPS. My customers seem to prefer that to buying a Blu-Ray disc player for $79.95 at Best Buy and paying me an extra $5 for the Blu-Ray edition. Perhaps that's explainable by the fact that a previous videographer in one of these companies made the videos by recording the show in VHS and playing the VHS tapes into a VHS to DVD recorder ("Progress! We now have DVD!") I can assure that I get a better result than THAT.
The point: probably Encore would have transcoded the WAV file for me into AC3. It also would have freed up a bunch of space in doing so...and that space would be wasted since I didn't account for it in the bit budgeting process. Thus, in order to ensure the best video quality possible (i.e. the largest possible size video file in relation to the audio on the disc), it's necessary to mandate Dolby Digital/AC3 at the point of setting up the export. Allowing Encore to do it ensures a large blank area of disc space and if the project is more than a certain size, an unnecessary sacrifice in quality.
Jay

Blu Ray video disk will only display on W500 screen, not on attached screens

My W500 (Win7-64bit) plays blu-ray disks perfectly on the W500's screen. But it will not play on an attached 1600 x 1200 DVI monitor, either attached through a mini-dock, or via the DisplayPort and a DVI convertor adapter. In both those cases, WinDVD 2010 (which I purchased to replace WinDVD 8 provided) says "Your display environment does not support protected content playback" WinDVD 8 gives exactly the same message. The same Blu Ray drive plays DVD's perfectly to the 1600x1200 DVI screen. Anyone understand what the problem might be ?

Hello,
I saw your reply in this five year old thread asking about HDCP.
HDCP is short for High Definition Copy Protection. It means the devices at both ends (video card, monitor) must support encrypting the signal between them in order to prevent digital copying/piracy.
Regards,
Aryeh Goretsky

Blu-Ray video capture and burning with G4 Power Book ??

Good afternoon.
Has anybody figured out this route with a G4?
If so, please explain in nauseating details! Hardware, software, etc.......
Thanks for your time!

Thanks for your reply.
It's also my understanding that OS X doesn't natively offer Blu-Ray support, and that an external Blu-Ray player/burner is required (see OWC) along with capture and burning software (Toast 10).
I'm wondering if anyone has tried and succeeded.

Blu-ray video/audio asset

Use Preimiere and Media Encoder.
Should I muxed the video/audio or not? The demuxed m4v file can't seem to be played standalone.
Thanks!

Played HOW standalone?
A muxed file is generally made to play on a computer
As far as I know (I always give Encore an AVI and let it do the encoding to create a DVD... I don't do BluRay) Encore "prefers" a 2 part (video file and audio file) asset
When you feed the video file to Encore is should (again, I only use AVI) bring in the audio file of the same name, as long as it is in the same place as the video file... if you, you may need to import the audio file separate and link on the timeline
But... what does it say in the user guide about how to go from Premiere to Encore for BluRay?
CS5 User Guides - online and PDF
http://blogs.adobe.com/premiereprotraining/2010/08/help-documents-for-creative-suite-5-pdf -and-html.html

HP 2311 gt monitor no longer plays blu rays.

My operating system is Windows 7 64 bit. The monitor came with softwear for playing 3D blu ray videos and movies. There is no error message it just does not play. Nothing happens at all. It worked when I installed it and now for no reason that I can think of it will no longer play Blu ray movies 3D or otherwise. It came with power DVD 10 which worked fine when I installed it but now will only play DVDs. I searched on the forums and it seems a lot of people are having problems like mine with their power DVD softwear not playing Blu Rays any longer. ONe person posted that they got a solution from HP which cleared up the problem. I hope so because Cyber link which makes the Power DVD softwear has not been able to come up with a solution. Please help. I now have a 3D monitor that is worthless because it does not do what it is supposed to do. I spent a lot of money on 3D blu rays so I could watch them and it is not happening. I also have a envy 3D with the same softwear and it works. But I prefer wathcin on hte larger monitor with better sound system.
Don't ask me what I did before it stopped working because I didn't do any thing!!!

Hi,
First try this Cyberlink BD and 3D Advisor tool. Check both BD and 3D. Are you good to go?
Try a non-3D Blue-Ray that worked in the past.
Run the Cyberlink BD Advisor. It's under the Start button-->Progams---> Cyberlink You may need to update the AACS tables.
If you installed other Blu-Ray software, then you might have to uninstall that software to get Cyberlink to work again.
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Once and for all: Can DVD SP build Blu-Ray disc content or not?

Maybe I’m crazy, but…
Everything I’ve heard to date has Apple backing the Blu-Ray format. Believing this, I just spent $900 on a new Lacie D2 external Blu-Ray burner (which IS Mac compatible). I also purchased Toast 8 (which IS Blu-Ray compatible).
All I need to do now is build my disc content (assign H.264 1920x1080 content, build menus, etc.) then drop it all into Toast and burn Blu-Ray video discs… right?
So what is all this I’m reading here about DVD Studio Pro supporting the HD DVD format and not Blu-Ray???!!!!!!
Am I going to be able to do this using DVD SP or not, and if not, can anybody tell me a program I can use to build my Blue-Ray disc content? (All of my HD content is H.264 (1920x1080) rendered directly from Adobe After Effects).
My deadline for this project is fast approaching and I’m hoping somebody can shed some light on this. If I can build Blu-Ray discs and burn them on my Mac using Toast 8 and the Lacie D2, I’ll make my deadline and justify the $900 spent thus far.
Can anybody help?
Thanks, SM

Wait a minute,
Maybe I don’t need to buy PC to run DVDit Pro HD. I have a Mac Pro! With Boot camp I have a PC! Any reason I shouldn’t try running DVDit on my Mac via the Boot Camp beta? That way I'd also be using my Lacie D2 Bu-Ray drive. And with Roxio's 30 day return policy I haven’t much to loose...
I'm calling Roxio tech support. Let you know how it goes
Sark
Message was edited by: sarkmachine
A LITTLE LATER:
Just got back from digging into Roxio's discussion forum and here's what I found:
I have travelled down the same frustrating path my friend!
But I did succeed doing it all on my new mac Pro, finally...
Install BOOTCAMP (free beta). Install WINDOWS XP ($269 from AMAZON). Install ULEAD BD RECORDER, which comes with DVD MOVIEFACTORY 6 (free trial, $80 to buy).
BDAV worked well from SONY V1-U burning to MATSHITA BD-MLT SW-5582 and played perfectly in new SAMSUNG 1200 palyer on my 57" DLP.
TIP - install BOOTCAMP et al on its own HD, and use NTFS... This will come in handy when doing a BDAV from a file such as HDV1080 that is larger than 4GB.
To do BDMV, you'll need SONIC DVD-IT PRO HD ($499) which I have yet to try...
Frustrating process, but kinda cool to figure it all out, especially when NOBODY in sales at any of these places seems to have a clue.
So there you go - must be possible
Sark

HDV to Blu-Ray and DVD questions!

So I shot a bunch of footage that I need to turn into a DVD and Blu-Ray. I have some questions regarding these 2 issues.
First of all, I captured all the footage HDV settings 1440 x 1080. I am using Final Cut Pro 5. I am having some issues with the footage trying to multicam edit. It's making me render it out, which takes about 8 hours for 20 minutes.
What is the best way to go from HDV back to DV so I can put it on DVD? Can I export straight from the HDV footage to mpeg2 or is there a different way I should go about it?
My next question is. For Blu-Ray video, how do I export the HDV footage in FCP so I can use it in Adobe Encore? Any help with these questions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

The easiest way to convert HDV to DV is to use the camera or deck to do this Down Convert.
Edit and export to Compressor for DVD.
Multiclip editing is not something I can help you with as I haven't had any success with it.
For Encore you could export as a self contained .mov then import into Encore. You might want to try working with Compressor first.
Good Luck
Z1

Final Cut Pro 7 - Share - Blu-ray - ERROR

Fresh install of OS and FCS.
Ran a quick test to make sure this would work:
File - Share - Blu-ray
Burned to disc then and there, and it was successful on an eleven second portion of the clip with an in and out point on the timeline.
The result was a beautiful Blu-ray quality 11 second clip recorded onto a DVD-RW, and it played back fine on a PS3. (AVCHD)
Extended the in and out point on the same clip in the same timeline in order to do a 20 minute version of the same thing. 2.5 hours later, it ejected my blank DVD I had already inserted, and asked me for a Dual Layer. I put one in, and it ejected that one, too. I kept trying different blank media and eventually it tells me:
There was an error burning your disc.
Operation could not be completed. (DSPPublishing error -1006.)
Hit "Try Again" and after a few minutes it says again,
Please insert the dual layer media to burn the
disc "name-Blu-ray".
Seems to be an endless loop. It's reporting the final size will be only 1.6GB, so I don't know why it's asking for a DL disc. I spoke to Apple today and they told me this feature was not compatible with DL media at all anyway.
If anyone can help...

Update and WORKAROUND:
I have been experimenting and here's what I've learned:
I'm thinking the new "Create Disc" is the cause. The encoded files generated by FCP7 and Compressor 3.5 are fine. One whacky theory of mine is the programmers made a typo where if you encode a file like this over 1GB the burn fails. I don't know, I'm just saying, it's probably something simple like that.
I spoke to Apple, too. First I had someone tell me it failed because I tried a clip larger than 25 minutes, so I tried 20, and it failed, too, the same way. (I also previously encoded a 3.5 minute clip and it was excellent.) This person also told me Dual Layer was not supported at all. He was completely wrong.
I called back and this time it was a guy named Bob. If you ever call and speak to him, just do him a favor and hang up on yourself and save him the trouble. He won't let you speak to tell him the problem, and even if you are calm and try he's the type to tell you to "calm down, sir." He literally told me "there is no Blu-ray feature" in the new FCS. I merely asked if he had seen the new Compressor and he told me he knew everything, and asked me to have a nice day before hanging up on me. I know he's an anomaly at Apple.
I called back and spoke to someone else, and they gave me this link:
http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/burn_br_mac_superdrivestone.html
After I read it I thought, "that's exactly what I did!" But it doesn't work and that's why I'm calling. (Even that article reports odd bugs.)
I called again, just because I know this needs to be fixed. Finally I spoke to someone who passed it along, and they are going to look into it. Get this - he checked the FCS manuals and discovered that it is indeed a feature that should work. Maybe they will name the patch after me.
So I also found a solution in the meantime. I've read hints here and there, but this is what has just worked for me and I wanted to verify before posting and sharing it:
Do the encode with Share in FCP7 or Compressor 3.5. Screw what anyone tells you about "maximum size" or 25 minutes or even what Compressor tells you regarding the number of minutes of footage the disc will hold. It's wrong. And, it will support Dual Layer discs. Go by the file size in the summary, and that's it. (I'm talking about AVCHD here, nothing else. It's the Blu-ray setting and you can change it to AVCHD to burn on a DVD-5 or DVD-9, in the manual it says "red laser media.")
If you want to burn to a DVD-5 stay under around 4GB for your video, but you can experiment with the details. You have a minimum of 5Mbps and a max of 17Mbps in a VBR. Seriously, use whatever you want, as long as it will fit on the media. This is also about H.264, not MPEG-2.
Export to files, and make sure you do NOT burn from FCP7 or Compressor 3.5, because that will cause the problem. It will even completely ruin your blank media, but you may think it's still blank because they will be detected as blank media, even in other systems. But they cannot be used, ever again, merely for trying with "Create Disc."
In the end you will have two files:
movie.264
movie.ac3
If you have two files with those extensions and they don't have the exact same file name, rename them, but keep the extensions.
I used Toast 9. Blu-ray Video option. Add - locate the two clips with the same names with .264 and .ac3. They go in, deal with the ugly menus, but make sure you do this:
In the Encoding settings:
Custom
MPEG-4 AVC
Average Bit Rate: to whatever you used in Compressor or FCP7.
Maximum Bit Rate: may as well set it to 17 (we're trying not to re-encode the files)
Motion Est - Best - check the Half-PEL box
Reencoding - Never (that might make the above a waste, but it only took a couple seconds so stop complaining.) Set the rest to the same settings in the same way.
Choose your blank media and burn it, and few seconds later you can slap it into your PS3 and watch the creamy smooth silky beautiful encode right there.
I read somewhere it retains the FCP color settings and that's probably why doing it this way is a thousand times better than using Toast to encode (which skips really bad in my tests). I've also tried Encore and it was ugly and looked like it skipped frames.
Anyway, "Create Disc" may not work right now, but the encodes are amazing. I hope this helps others from banging their heads against the wall, and from calling Bob. I just burned a 2 hour movie onto a DVD and played it back on a PS3!
For further reading, here are some interesting links I found:
http://www.shedworx.com/revolverhdmac-faq
- Talks about Apple's support of H.264 "High Profile" - they type needed for AVCHD and Blu-ray movies.
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/video/filetypes.html
- PS3 supported file types.
http://blogs.adobe.com/davtechtable/2008/03/updated_march_2008_workingwi.html
- Interesting times of various encodes on different systems. For Encore, but comparable to Compressor for time differences.
If this has helped you, Apple owes me some money, and you're welcome.

I don't see a blu-ray icon in the destination window of my Final Cut Pro app even if I have an LG blu-ray burner connected

I have a MACBOOK PRO running under 10.9 and 4 Gigs memory. I bought FCP to be able to burn blu-rays videos (I produced a 4h30 video on a trip to Turkey)
My video is produced in full HD. I have an LG blu-ray burner. I bought training videos on FCP at Macpro Video and they show that going on SHARE and selecting ADD A NEW DESTINATION will bring a window where should be an icon of a blu-ray disc. But I don't see any blu-ray icon there. My burner is the model BP40NS20

Thanks Tom! Yes, I have the french version. Then, is there a something to do to correct it.

Instructions: Create Blu-Ray disc in Compressor with Final Cut TImeline

I searched mightily for simple instructions on how to do this. The Compressor help files are woefully inadequate in providing a simple walkthrough to do this. Burning a Blu-ray directly from Final Cut does not allow one to optimize the conversion like compressor does. So:
1) Right click your chosen sequence in Final Cut
2) Click "Share" The Share dialog box will come up.
3) Choose "Blu-Ray" in the destination drop down in the top-left corner of the Share window (don't forget to choose the destination location of the files at the top of the dialog)
4) Click "Send to Compressor" in the bottom-left corner
Compressor will open and a job will automatically be created with Blu-ray video
and Dolby ac3 audio. Set options and submit as usual in Compressor

The send to compressor option occasionally creates problems. Most people would recommend exporting as a self-contained movie, then bringing that into compressor and using your workflow from there.

Using Blue Ray in FCP

I know not the first thing about Blue Ray and the more I use it, the less I know about FCP but. . . I am editing a project which requires me to choose between rip video from a DVD or using that same video from a Blue Ray disc.
Question: Is it possible to use Blue Ray video in FCP? If so, how do I get it into FCP and is it of a High Definition version or does it only convert to DV?
Thanks
R

If you're using commercial DVDs or Blu-ray discs (and it sounds like you're trying to do just that), you'll need to obtain the rights to the footage for your particular usage. When negotiating the terms of that agreement with the copyright administrator, stipulate that they provide the needed footage in an editing format - NOT in the final delivery format. It may add some cost to the project but be well worth it in the long run.
-DH

Internal blu-ray for new mac mini?

I want to use the mac mini as a media server, DVD player, blu-ray, music ...
and use the mac mini as media centre because it is very ergonomic and beautiful.

I believe I've seen slot-loading Blu-Ray drives that would work, but there is at this time no software for Mac OS X to play Blu-Ray video disks. The only way to play a Blu-Ray movie would be to run Windows on the Mac mini and purchase software, available from one or two Windows developers, that will play Blu-Ray movies. So you may wish to rethink your strategy if you're looking for an all-in-one-box solution.
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