Blue Ray Recording

Hi
I have an iMac with mountain lion that has the latest updates, plus FCPX installed and also up to date with all updates.
I have a BlueRay recorder attached via USB which worked perfectly well with fcpX, until I recently updated to the latest FCPX.
I go to File/Share, (Share has now moved to the file menu as apposed to being visable at the top of the screen) and select BLUERAY, which I had to add to the the share selection. I then select the BR drive then everything seems to work as normal, I click share and the "Background" goes through the motions but as it is about to actualy BURN it asks for a the correct disc. When I put in a normal DVD it burns ok. But it will not burn a BR disc.
Do any of you good folk out there know what the problem could be, or what I need to do.
Thanks in advance for your advice.
The Butler (Carl)

First, you need to find a bluray player with "component" video outputs. Not many of them exist.
Oppo is one brand that includes this type of analog output on their players.
http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-80/
Then you need a high def video capture device, that has component inputs. Such as ElGato's EyeTV HD.
http://www.elgato.com
Just to get to that point, you've spent $500. Is it worth that to you?
I'm not 100% sure this combo will work. It's possible there is some kind of macrovision, or similar protection that will prevent it. But to my knowledge BD does not use macrovision.

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[email protected] writes:
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on your system.
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H.264 1920 x 1080i PAL Dolby
H.264 1920 x 1080p NTSC Dolby
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ISO Image (50 GB) NEW
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H.264 1920 x 1080i PAL Dolby
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