Bluetooth wont work with arch

I have two laptops (Samsung NP300EAX and Toshiba m645) both with bluetooth but I can not make it work
I've installed bluez and all bluez-* packages without success. install bluedevil on Samsung and gnome-control-center on Toshiba. I did everything indicates on https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/bluetooth.
- Install bluez
# pacman -S bluez bluez-utils bluez-firmware
- Install bluedevil ( I have KDE)
# pacman -S bluedevil
- enable bluetooth.service (start on boot) and start
# systemctl enable bluetooth && systemctl start bluetooth
can help me please
lspci on samsung
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor DRAM Controller (rev 09)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor PCI Express Root Port (rev 09)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04)
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 04)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev c4)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 4 (rev c4)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 04)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation HM75 Express Chipset LPC Controller (rev 04)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series Chipset Family 6-port SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 04)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 04)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF119M [GeForce 610M] (rev a1)
02:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 06)
"dmesg | grep Bluetooth" on Samsung
[ 26.114129] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.16
[ 26.114150] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[ 26.114158] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[ 26.114161] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[ 26.114167] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized
[ 26.233024] Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.3
[ 26.233028] Bluetooth: BNEP filters: protocol multicast
[ 26.233037] Bluetooth: BNEP socket layer initialized
$ hcitool scan
Device is not available: No such device
both laptops have bluetooth on WIndows works <--
Last edited by rokemaster (2014-01-23 04:35:42)

WonderWoofy wrote:Still not enough information.  We have now established that you have installed what should be the required software, you have bluetooth hardware, and you have started the service.  If that is all you have done, then it really isn't even close to what that linked wiki page indicates.
I've tried with the tools listed in the wiki page. if this is not enough, you could tell me that could make some command, load modules, downloading drivers, etc..

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