BOM-structured RFx in manufacturiong industry

Hi,
Do you have the reference of Bidding Engine for direct material sourcing?
Especially in Automotive industry, there seems to be the case RFx has BOM-structured lines of assy.
In SRM Bidding Engine, we can use the "outline" function, but I have never heard this function is used in direct material sourcing in manufacturing industry.
If you have any idea to handle BOM-structured RFx, please share it.
regards,
Tadasuke

Hi Tadasuke,
Outlining functionality is useful if you want to source a set of products from a single supplier. In this case you can bundle all the items into one lot called as outline and create a bid invitation for that.
But, for bidding for matrials in a BOM, SAP xApp Cost & Quote management is more suitable. You can find information on xCQM at https://websmp208.sap-ag.de/xapps
Rgds,
RRK

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