Boot Camp, Mac Drive and Gaming

I recently got a mac book pro, I am looking at installing boot camp for gaming. I want to keep the windows partition as small as possible i.e. have only the OS on there to allow for maximum flexibility. So i was thinking that i could simply install Windows XP on a 5Gb partition, then use MacDrive to allow installation of windows games on the main (MacOS hfs+j) partition. My question is, is this possible? i.e. does MacDrive allow for the installation of programs on a mac formatted drive? Particularly Steam?
I have searched all the web and have not been able to find an answer, if anyone has had such a setup working/not working your input would be greatly appreciated.

Installing MacDrive, launching the Installer for your Game(in Windows obviously) and selecting your hfs partition and a path will solve your problems.
MacDrive tells Windows everything it has to know.
I strongly recommend using NTFS rather than FAT32, you can bypass the only (bigger) disadvantage (osx can't write on it) by installing paragon ntfs4mac or ntfs-3g/macfuse.
I played Call of Duty 4 and Unreal Tournament 3 without any problems or performance weaknesses on my hfs+ partition and even Warcraft 3 TFT (Mac Edition) ,installed on my NTFS Partition (just to test Paragon's Driver ^^ )

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I am leading a programmers team, what we want is the faster machines to improve performance. Currently investigating an HP machine with windows XP 64 on it. But that doesn't work for us as most of hour programming tools do not work under XP 64. We cannot install 32 bit Windows because of the 2 Quad cores in the machines (according to IT).
Solution could be MAC pro, same specs (2 quad cores and 4 GB internal memory ) but with Boot Camp I can install XP 32. Or am I wrong? Or will MAC pro with XP 32 do not give an performance increase we can expect with 8 core?
Robert

Hi Robert,
for the IT guys: XP Prfessional does support up to 2 processors with multiple cores each.
XP Home does only support one processor with multiple cores.
The main problem with Mac Pro and 32-bit Windows XP or Vista (and possibly with the HP machine, too) is, that because the expansion slots are reserving quite some parts of RAM for their own Range of Adresses (even if no expansion card is in them) from the 4GB of RAM you will only get about 2GB for XP Pro 32-bit to see and use.
Only chance to use the full amount of RAM is 64-bit Windows and then Vista is the one to use, because Apple does not provide any drivers for XP-64 bit.
Regards
Stefan

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Hello,
So, I got through most of the Boot Camp process but right at the end I had an error. I originally burned the driver disc onto a CD. After installing windows and starting it up I popped in the driver disc and it started downloading the drivers. Then all of a sudden a window pops up that reads:
Feature Transfer Error
Error: -1603 Fatal error during installation
Consult Windows Installer Help (msi.chm) or MSDN for more information.
So, I figured it was an error with the driver disc. I figured I would create another by logging onto OSX. I tried restarting the computer from Windows and everything just froze. I ended up having to manually restart my iMac. I then logged onto OSX and this time burned the drivers onto a DVD. Well, I got the same results. Same error at the same point in the driver download into Windows.
This is just reminding me how frustrating Windows can be. I am stumped on what to try next, and Windows still freezes when I attempt to shutdown or restart.
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Error 1603 is a generic machine-specific issue. One or more of the following fixes resolve the error.
1. This error is known to occur on computers that do not have enough disk space for the installation.
2. The Temp directory is not clean.
3. A certain file on the machine is locked. To fix this, close all applications running in the background. Reboot computer and run the installation again.
4. Use Microsoft Windows Installer Cleanup utility by clicking on the following link: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;290301 to remove traces of previous installations. This utility does not remove files installed by the installation, which may need to be removed manually. Go to the following Microsoft link to download the Microsoft Windows Installer Cleanup Utility.

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Hello all,
This is a Boot Camp question, but as it specifically relates to the Mac Pro, so I'm posting it here.
I recently upgraded from 10.4.11 to 10.5.6, and from Boot Camp Beta to Boot Camp 2.0. I had previously used Boot Camp Beta, primarily and rather extensively for gaming, in XP, until it became obvious that my X1900XT was experiencing real problems. After some research, I realized that these problems likely stemmed from the fact that the MP's actual fans weren't doing anything while in XP, and the only thing preventing a total meltdown inside the case was the 1900's own onboard fan, which worked at full capacity nearly all the time, but still didn't manage to prevent the card's slow, untimely demise.
Nothing so far that hasn't been reported by dozens of other users...
I've since purchased a reflashed 8800GTS (G92) from Bruinmacs on eBay, and I'm hoping to get back into PC gaming... Now, it had been my understanding at the time (pre-Leopard) that the full version of Boot Camp was meant to include XP drivers for the MP's fans, but I have been unable to track down any relevant information as to whether or not that promise ever became a reality. I've found multiple topics by people with Macbooks where it is clear that fan control in Windows is still a distant fantasy, but I've seen nothing from any Mac Pro users either way, and have found no official word either.
I have SMC Fan Control, and I know how to use it, but it seems like a wrecking-ball-for-a-nail type solution. I certainly don't want to fry another GPU, though. So, my question is obvious...
Thanks for the help.

Well, I certainly don't have a good picture of what it should do, which is why I asked about how it works. I did Google for info, and I also did see the developer's site before I posted back, however. Frankly, I found the official site and every other source of info I landed on to be less than explicit about specifically the things I was enquiring on. All it says is "fan control" here and there, which doesn't necessarily mean variable fan control using hardware temperature monitors as a reference for fan speed. Besides, most of the info on the site is dedicated to Macbooks - including the remapping functions, so there's precious little for a Mac Pro owner to go by.
Also, as I'd written in my first post, I am familiar with SMC Fan Control and how it works. I was just specifying that, as far as I can tell, Input Remapper seems to do more or less the same thing, except that it does it directly from the Windows side of things. If that's the case, I'll just stick with SMC.
If there's a pertinent bit of info on that page or anywhere else that I've missed, I would certainly like to be more specifically directed to it. Otherwise, I suppose I'll just have to bite the bullet and install IR so I can figure it out for myself. That usually seems to be the best method regardless.

Erased boot camps hard drive with time machine?

so, i completely erased windows by erasing what was on boot camps hard drive. Boot camp cannot read my "start up" harddrive now. and the harddrive will not turn into a jornaled macintosh hard drive. i checked it with disk utility and it claims to be ok. is there a way i canget back the hard drive and my windows 7 to start up all over again?

I am having a similar problem. I use a Lacie external hard drive connected to an Airport Time Capsule via USB to store my itunes library. Yesterday I disconnected the external drive from the ATC and connected it to my macbook pro via fire wire to transfer 40 gigabytes of media files from my laptop to the external drive directly rather than over wifi. When I reattached the external drive to the ATC the Lacie drive didn't show up even after rebooting everything. I then disconnected from the ATC and reconnected to the laptop and now I get an error message saying the Lacie disk is unrecognizable and needs to be reformated. The Lacie drive was being included in the time machine backups so the files should be available through time machine but I don't see anyway to access them because the Lacie disk icon doesn't appear in the time machine backups. Is there another way to browse the files?
I have had issues with Lacie disks not showing up on the desktop before, particularly when transferring files from one computer to another. The transfer usually goes fine but then when I reattach the drive to the first computer it isn't recognized anymore until I reboot and it sometimes requires a couple of reboots. I initially tried to connect the external drive to both the ATC and the laptop but that didn't work, although now I'm wondering if that was because the connection to the laptop was firewire rather than USB like the ATC. In any case I currently have over a terabyte of data on my lacie that I can't access which includes my entire itunes library and backup files from multiple computers which were "cleaned" but not restored.
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After Security updation of Windows 7 in Boot Camp (Mac Book Pro with Retina Display) on 13-Nov-2013, Windows 7 Desktop Gadgets are not working properly.

After Security updation of Windows 7 in Boot Camp (Mac Book Pro with Retina Display) on 13-Nov-2013, Windows 7 Desktop Gadgets are not working properly.
This is boot camp problem, because in other normal notebooks (e.g. SONY VAIO, Lenovo with Windows 7) the gadgets are working normally.
I am attaching the screen shot of Desktop Gadgets and Security updates of Windows 7.
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<edited by host>

You are not addressing Apple, but a community of unpaid volunteers. So ASAP won't cut it. Also, you should refrain from posting personal information (like your email address) in the body of your comments, as this is part of the community usage guidelines.
Have you reinstalled the latest Boot Camp Windows 7 drivers, just in case Microsoft overwrote some of them during the Windows 7 security update?
If you want to communicate issues with Apple about Boot Camp and OS X, click on the link. Just don't hold your breath on receiving a response.

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I have upgraded to Vista SP1 from XP SP3 successfully on one of my macs. Once Windows is loaded and up and running then you can upgrade it just like you normally would when running a Windows based PC.
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When in Windows 7 environment I can see and access my mac drive and identities.

Greetings, I am running Mac OS and Windows on MBA. When in Windows 7 environment I can see my mac drive and identities and access the data on them without any security password etc. Can this be avoided, I don't want access/unsecurely access Mac drive.

Hi,
Please check the following settings:
1. In windows 7, try
Secpol.msc in start box and open Local security policy.
2. Expand "Local Policies" and select "Security Options"
3. Locate "Network Security: LAN Manager Authentication Level" in the list and double-click it.
4. Change the setting from "Send NTMLv2 response only" to "Send LM & NTLM - use NTLMv2 session if negotiated"
5. Network Security: Minimum session security for NTLM SSP Based (including secure RPC) Clients
6. Change the setting from "require 128 bit" to unchecked (No Minimum)
7. Click OK, and exit.
Alex Zhao
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HT1343 if one is using windows 8.1 on a boot camped mac and you are using a mac keyboard . How does one unlock the numbers on the larger wired keyboard ( numbers keys to the right of the keyboard) instead of having to use the numbers at the top of the ke

Question: I am using a mac , wired Keyboard, on a windows 8.1 platform ( this is because I have boot camped my hard drive) Unfortunately when I change over from my mac set up into the windows 8.1 the key board does not behave like it does when I am using as a mac. The numbers , on the right of the keyboard , no longer function and I have to use the numbers at the top of the keyboard, very annoying. Can anybody let me know how I unlock the numbers on the right of my keyboard?
Regards CM

I have stated every issue I’ve had so far in a fairly clear and concise way. I think if you read what I wrote, it all makes logical sense as to what is going on. Windows 7/8 would work just as well on a Mac if it was supported the same way the OS is for other OEMs.
As I stated earlier in the post, I’m having these same issues in windows 8, not just 8.1, which is the reason for the post. I know the difference between supported by drivers and not supported by the manufacturer. The fact that when Haswell mbp’s came out and no revision to bootcamp for the new hardware was released to fix issues with installing windows on the new hardware shows Apple clearly Is not supporting bootcamp as strongly as they advertise.
I am being realistic on Apple having drivers early. Anyone with an MSDN subscription can download the RELEASE version of windows months ahead of the actual release, I’m 100% sure if any average consumer can do that by paying $100 and saying they are a developer, apple can do it just as easily.
You aren’t much help, you haven’t answered really anything to my post, nor have you contributed any knowledge that wasn’t clearly posted above, so don’t say anything if you don’t have anything to contribute.
By the way, my rant is directed at apple, as you can see because I am saying “Apple, if you are going to…” because this is an Apple forum on Apple’s website. It is not directed to end users, clearly.

Can you use Windows 7 to partition a Boot Camp created drive (not just a PC partition on a Mac drive) into multiple PC partitions?

Can you use Windows 7 to partition a Boot Camp created dedicated PC drive (not just a PC partition on a Mac drive) into multiple PC partitions?

Can you download this utility, it is a close equivalent of the gpt command, but has more features? (It is more than likely that Windows took over and converted this to an MBR disk).
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gptfdisk/
Once you have it installed you run it as follows. You can execute using either /dev/disk1 or /dev/rdisk1 as the parameter.
type gdisk
gdisk is /usr/sbin/gdisk
sudo gdisk /dev/disk0
Password:
GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.8.9
Warning: Devices opened with shared lock will not have their
partition table automatically reloaded!
Partition table scan:
MBR: hybrid
BSD: not present
APM: not present
GPT: present
Found valid GPT with hybrid MBR; using GPT.
Command (? for help): p
Disk /dev/disk0: 1954210120 sectors, 931.8 GiB
Logical sector size: 512 bytes
Disk identifier (GUID): 6ED0C429-00D1-4759-B50E-04B6FB80D0E3
Partition table holds up to 128 entries
First usable sector is 34, last usable sector is 1954210086
Partitions will be aligned on 8-sector boundaries
Total free space is 1293 sectors (646.5 KiB)
Number Start (sector)    End (sector) Size       Code Name
   1              40          409639   200.0 MiB   EF00 EFI System Partition
   2          409640      1452940543   692.6 GiB   AF00 Customer
   3      1452940544      1454210079   619.9 MiB   AB00 Recovery HD
   4      1454211072      1954209791   238.4 GiB   0700 BOOTCAMP
Command (? for help): q

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Did you uppdate to bootcamp 3.1? To update to 3.1 you need to have installed 3.0 from your Snow Leopard install disc. What version of the display driver are you using.
See this thread that just started too.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2345677
3.1 solved the "display stopped responding" for me. Of course that introduced other issues.
Check your driver version and read here for other display issues fun...
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2328909
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2307311
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Boot Camp basics - drive formatting and organization

Hello. I have always used PCs and just bought a new Macbook Pro.
I would like to use Boot Camp to run Windows 8.1 for some things. Ive been trying to read up on it. I have a few questions regarding hard drive formatting and sharing/using files between the two. I saw some statements on drive formatting type and being able to read or write on files depending on the formatting.
1. I have external hard drives formatted NTFS that I want to use for Windows on Boot Camp. Can I use these drives via USB with the Boot Camp Windows partition without having to reformat them? Also, while I plan on transferring my Office files to the Mac side of things (using Office for Mac), can I also still use them on the Boot Camp side and if I can use them for both, where should they live? On the Windows side of things or the Mac side of things?
2. When I am using the Boot Camp partition w Windows or the Mac side, can I see the files from the other partition regardless of what one Im booted on?
3. How much space should I partition for Windows 8.1? Do ALL files I will use in Windows need to be on that partition (or an external drive) or just Windows itself)I have a 512GB SSD on the MBPro and plan to keep all music and most photos and other large media files off of the laptop entirely. But may still have some files to work on within the Boot Camp - but am still unclear if they NEED to live on the Boot Camp partition part of the drive or if its just WINDOWS that needs to be on that partition.
Lets just try those questions to start.
Thanks!!

Sorry if my question was confusing.
I DO plan to install Windows on the Boot Camp partition, not an external - but I have a lot of files for Windows use on an external. Want to make sure I dont have to reformat those for this purpose.
I plan to switch all my office use to the Mac side - I bought office for mac - but wondered if I happen to install Office on the Windows side - if I could just access the files from ONE location for both Offices - and if it mattered which side.
Is there an app for the Mac to write to an NTFS disk?
Thank you for your help - very much!

Boot Camp 2.x and Windows XP incompatible with Radeon 1600 Video Adapter

Using Boot Camp Assistant 2.0 from a Leopard Install, I generated a 20GB partition and installed Windows XP SP2 reformatting during the install to NTFS. At this point things seemed to be working well. I then used my Leopard Install disk to update the MAC drivers. Now when I tried to reboot, I see the Windows splash window, the screen goes black, the screen goes cyan, then the screen goes black and stays that way. At this point, I cannot do anything with the Windows XP partition other than a power down by holding the power key. If I try to reboot on the XP partition, it goes through a hard drive repair, then goes black screen, light blue screen, black screen, hung. I can boot with Safe Boot, but I have no keyboard or trackpad drivers. I can run the system with an external USB mouse and keyboard.
A friend found that the Video Adapters being used were a problem. (We can't find the reference.) If I go to Start/RightClick My Computer/Hardware/Device Manager/Video Adapters, I can right click on whatever adapters are located there and Uninstall them. At this point, the system will boot up fine using a generic video adapter. I don't know how well it would work if you wanted to use it for high speed gaming.
On bootup I could get to the Internet. I went to Start/All Programs/Windows Update and did the Windows Update. I did it twice to get everything updated to Service Pak 3. (I have read that there is a problem if you upgrade the Apple Drivers to version 2.1 before you upgrade to Service Pak 3.)
At this point, I installed the Boot Camp Update 2.1 and all worked well. I then installed Update 2.2 and the video was again a problem. It appears that the system was booting up ok, but it was happening behind a black screen. If I booted up in Safe Mode, connected a USB Mouse and Uninstalled the Video Adapter/Radeon 1600, I could boot up and the system worked fine.
Unfortunately, Windows (for the first time that I know of) was smart enough to recognize that there was new hardware (the X1600) and it reinstalled the @!#$#-ed X1600 driver without asking me. Now I couldn't reboot without it hanging again.
The final step was that I found that if, instead of Uninstalling, I Disabled the X1600, I can now run using the generic Video Adapter and Windows does not re-enable it.
I hope this helps anyone who has a similar problem, so they don't waste 2 weeks like I did.

Hi Dave,
thanks for these informations.
Before my beloved 2006 iMac went awry and finally bit the dust, I have used the ATI MobilityCatalyst Drivers for XP.
If you're in for another try, here's the link http://support.amd.com/de/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonmob_xp.aspx?typ e=2.4.2&product=2.4.2.3.10&lang=English
Using the Generic Microsoft Graphics driver is IMHO not a solution, as it really only supports a minimum of the capabilities of the X1600 and is definitely not suited for gaming.
Stefan

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