Boot Camp Partition issue (still on OS X 10.4.8)

Hi all,
I'm trying to get Windows 7 up and running on my 2 year old MacBook Pro. Just bought the full version of Home Premium, as I've never installed any Windows on my mac before. Also, I haven't gotten Snow Leopard yet, so I'm still on OS X 10.5.8, which I think means a slightly older Boot Camp.
So I go in to Boot Camp Assistant and try to partition my 50 free gigs into about 20 for windows and 30 for mac. Trying several times, it always comes up with the error "The disk cannot be partitioned because some files cannot be moved" and says I should back up my disk, make sure it is formatted as OS Extended (Journaled), and restore the disk from the backup. This is the part I don't know how to do exactly. Is it saying I have to basically wipe my HD and restore it from my external HD? Under restore in the Disk Utility I can drag my external drive into the "source" box, but can't put my mac HD in the "destination" box.
So, anyone have any tips on how to move forward with the partitioning? Is it merely a space issue like I think, or is it a larger problem having to do with not being on Snow Leopard yet? I appreciate any advice or suggestions, I'm sick of spending so long trying to figure this out, haha.
Thanks!

I wish Apple would expand their own tutorial. The Boot Camp pdf; the FAQ; but it can be done with your OS X DVD and Apple Disk Utility's Restore; with other programs that are free, but require (essential to my thinking) that you have another drive or partition that you can boot from.
Windows and you have rescue CDs. With a Mac you can have and boot OS X from multiple hard drives.
Install OS X to drive #2 and use that to erase and restore.
TimeMachine is 'okay' but you can't boot from it. And I've got to say a bootable backup is more important tool.
The two most popular are Carbon Copy Cloner
http://www.bombich.com or from http://www.macupdate.com
SuperDuper from Shirt-Pocket Software, free for full copy, $29 for smart update of backup. Great PDF and of course no one looks to use the Help menu in programs (like Disk Utility even).
Those backups can be important and handy to have before installing any Mac OS update.
And there should be some 'Stickies' or "Most Popular Threads" or something because this question has been at some times a daily topic.

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       Size:         888087773184 B (888.1 GB)
       Free Space:   0 B (0 B)
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       |   Disk:     disk0s2
       |   Status:   Online
       |   Size:     239713435648 B (239.7 GB)
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       |   Disk:     disk1s2
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           Encryption Type:         None
           Conversion Status:       NoConversion
           Conversion Direction:    -none-
           Has Encrypted Extents:   No
           Fully Secure:            No
           Passphrase Required:     No
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               Status:             Online
               Size (Total):       884000030720 B (884.0 GB)
               Size (Converted):   -none-
               Revertible:         No
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       0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *1.0 TB     disk1
       1:                        EFI                         209.7 MB   disk1s1
       2:          Apple_CoreStorage                         934.5 GB   disk1s2
       3:                 Apple_Boot Boot OS X               650.0 MB   disk1s3
       4:       Microsoft Basic Data BOOTCAMP                64.9 GB    disk1s4
    /dev/disk2
       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
       0:                  Apple_HFS Fusion HD              *1.2 TB     disk2
    /dev/disk3
       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
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            Conversion Status:       NoConversion
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            Fully Secure:            No
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                Size (Converted):   -none-
                Revertible:         No
                LV Name:            Fusion HD
                Volume Name:        Fusion HD
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    She spent most of the day working in Windows. During the day someone gave her a usb key with some photos on it that when she plugged it in to her computer something came up in Turkish (she is presently in Turkey) that her friend said she should just close the window and she did. She shut down and switched over to the 10.5.2 install, repaired permissions, and then ran software update to go to 10.5.3. I believe her Boot Camp is updated to the most recent version on the PC side. After the update completed she went to go back into Windows and could not start up in it. It turned out somehow everything on the Boot Camp partition was gone. The partition name was the same as it had been previously and it shouls as all of the space available. None of the material was in the Trash on the Mac side and she had quite a build up in the Trash folder - so it wasn't put in the Trash and then the Trash emptied. It was as if someone had reformatted the partition.
    I would chalk this up to user error when she was in disk utility maybe or someone in her studio screwing around with her computer but the same thing apparently happened to one of her classmates shortly before leaving for Turkey. Anyone heard of this happening or have any thoughts?
    I had her saving all data to the Mac partition so luckily no data was lost - we just need to reinstall the programs to the Windows partition.
    Thanks!

    Nope, that didn't happen. The mbp has been loaded directly with Leopard since release day, and had few problems. I've done all the updates from 10.5.0 without any issues. But it was definitely something in the 10.5.3 update that hosed my video (or just a really, really strange coincidence and/or bad timing).
    It's not just an OS driver, either. This is lower level than that, because I get NO video from a complete startup. There's no grey screen with the apple logo-- it stays completely blank. This almost surely means that the low-level firmware got corrupted or flashed incorrectly. The fact that the OS detects it as something completely different (Intel GMA X3100) supports this idea.
    Thinking back, I did do the update with my laptop screen closed and using a 20" Apple Cinema Display, which is how I use the laptop 90% of the time. And in each of the previous updates, I'm certain they were installed similarly. I mention this, because someone else mentioned having the same issue as me, and noted that the update was done with an external display. Perhaps the firmware update is bugged so that if it doesn't detect the native display, it gets hosed...
    I saw some other suggestions in another thread that sounded interesting. For instance, you can create a self booting CD on another Mac that reflashes the EFI (low level bios) to a factory setting. This could potentially fix it, and I would be willing to try it, if I still had my laptop.
    In the future, just because things like this make me paranoid, I'll probably reboot the mbp and use only the native display before I do any updates...
    Rich

  • Time Machine or Disk Utlilty to back up Mac and Boot Camp partition

    Since I am experiencing slow speeds I'm planning to format my HD and restore it. I wanted to know if it would be better to restore it from a TM back up or a disk utility image of the HD?
    Also, which one will work better with the XP Boot camp partition? a TM backup restore or a disk utility image and restore?
    Neerav

    AceNeerav wrote:
    I'm performing a restore now. lets see if this fixes the issue. the method i'm using is restoring the entire HD from a time machine backup.
    Please keep us informed on the outcome.
    i still dont understand the difference between the three methods i learnt...
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  • Boot Camp partition not showing in startup disk or when holding alt key

    I've read countless discussions about similar questions to this one, however, I still haven't been able to find any solution.
    I have an old 2006 MacBook that has just been fully updated and reformatted. I'm running OSX 10.7.5 and Boot Camp 4.
    I went through the Boot Camp installation from an Windows ISO image in my usb drive, where it succesfully downloaded all files needed, and prompted me to make the partition, after which it restarted and was supposed to take me to the installation manager in the Windows partition. I first got the "No bootable driver" error, to which I read I was supposed to restart the computer, hold the alt key, and choose the boot camp partition. However, it does not show up. I only get Mac and Recover drivers.
    I went into the Mac's startup disk, and only the Mac driver is showing, no Boot Camp driver, however, when I go into Disk Utilities, I can see that the BootCamp driver there.
    I read somewhere that I should zap pram and reset SMC, which I did with their instructions. It didn't change anything, I still only get the Mac driver and Recovery when hitting the alt key.
    Does it have something to do with my MacBook being older? That's the only reason I can think that would not allow me to do this.
    Let me know what other info I can give you so that you can please help me!! Thanks in advance!

    In last resort I solved my missing BOOTCAMP partition problem using a program called: iPartition from coriolis systems located in the United Kingdom http://www.coriolis-systems.com/iPartition.php it took me a coupleof days to figure out the credit card system they have Hint: use your 9 digit zip code to find your credit card address and call your bank if you have an overseas hold on the card!!!! The program found my missing BOOTCAMP partition and restored it. It did take a couple of e-mails to learn to use their program. Let me know how you turn out!

  • How do I write to my boot camp partition with Paragon NTFS that comes with Mountain Lion?  Or how do I get my boot camp partition to show up in Paragon's "Available NTFS partitions:" panel like my external hard drive does?

    I've just set up boot camp on my MacBookPro with a freshly installed Mountain Lion and Windows 7. 
    I would like to read and write in both directions from drive to drive if possible.  I've hunted around quite a bit to try and work this out, and so far I understand that one can write to or transfer files from one drive to the other with Paragon NTFS among other softwares. 
    I noticed when I looked in my system preferences the utility "Paragon NTFS for Mac OS X" came with Mountain Lion and it will recognize an external hard drive when I have one plugged in under "Available NTFS partitions:".  However, it does not automatically recognize my NTFS boot camp partition nor does it automatically give me write access. 
    Is the Paragon NTFS that comes with Mountain Lion limited in some way? 
    Do I still need to purchase and download the software of the same name from Paragon to get the full write privilidges I want or is there something I can do to get the version of Paragon on my MAC to recognize and give me write priviledges to my boot camp partition?
    I'm open to all suggestions to get the read / write access between partitions in my boot camped drive.
    MacFUSE is also listed in the System Preferences of my machine (it also came with Mountain Lion), if that helps.  I'm still working out exactly what each of these is supposed to do and how I can use it to accomplish the task at hand.
    My boot camp drive does appear normally in other contexts and in disk utility it indicates that the drive is mounted.
    Thank you for any guidance you can give me. 

    Interesting. Comes with? you didn't have either before? Paragon is commercial and is now v. 10.0, they were the only one keeping updated and was supporting 10.7.4. I would not enable more than one.
    For writing to HFS Paragon has theirs but probably give the nod to MacDrive there.
    I never do an upgrade to a new OS over the old system, I backup (clone) and format the drive with the new OS and do the install so whatever is there I know is clean and also to keep from carrying around leftovers from years and systems past.
    I would assme Paragon is limited. Try their site and knowledge base?
    MacDrive
    http://www.mediafour.com/updates/macdrive
    Paragon HFS
    http://www.paragon-software.com/home/hfs-windows/
    Paragon NTFS
    http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/26288/ntfs-for-mac-os-x
    http://www.paragon-software.com/home/ntfs-mac/

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