Boot Camp Partition v Fusion

I need to make a decision on whether to install XP Pro on a BootCamp partition or just in Fusion. I am aware of and like the option of being able to use the BootCamp partition directly in Fusion. Are there any features that do not function or function poorly if I only use the BC partition in Fusion instead of a direct installation in Fusion itself?
Will Time Machine also backup the Boot camp partition or will I need a separate XP backup software for that? I assume that Time Machine will successfully backup a Fusion vmdk file, obviating the need for a separate windows backup if XP is directly installed in Fusion?

Hi and welcome to Discussions,
BCorFusion wrote:
I need to make a decision on whether to install XP Pro on a BootCamp partition or just in Fusion. I am aware of and like the option of being able to use the BootCamp partition directly in Fusion. Are there any features that do not function or function poorly if I only use the BC partition in Fusion instead of a direct installation in Fusion itself?
Not that I am aware, but some report a sort of delay at startup of that 'BootCamp' VM in Fusion.
Will Time Machine also backup the Boot camp partition or will I need a separate XP backup software for that? I assume that Time Machine will successfully backup a Fusion vmdk file, obviating the need for a separate windows backup if XP is directly installed in Fusion?
Time Machine can not backup a BootCamp partition, you need something like WinClone http://twocanoes.com/winclone/
Since the vmdk file is changed so much while running, it is not recommended to use Time Machine for that file, because of the resulting workload for Time Machine.
For a vmdk file it is better to copy it with the Finder to a backup location.
Regards
Stefan

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