Boot camp using XP on new MBP. Fat32 or NFST?

My old MBP has a 32 gig HD windows fat32 XP. The only problem I had with it is not being able to update to SP3. I kept getting an error message saying Not enough memory on HD which was nonsense and I tried to get it resolved but gave up because of the stuff you had to go through on the windows side, Microsoft.. Now I know why I have a Mac.
Does anyone know if its because I had fat32 and it limited the file size to 4 gig and that upgrade required to make a file much larger for backup when installing that update?
So now here I am with my new MBP and need to make a Bookcamp partition and did using NTFS but haven't finished yet. I could copy over my winclone backup from my old mbp but it probably will not work since I need new drivers for the new mac.
any thoughts?

Hi,
the 'additional 4MB error' is a common error that surfaces sometimes.
See here for a solution http://www.windowsreference.com/general/error-there-is-not-enough-disk-space-whe n-installing-sp3/
It has nothing to do with using FAT32 or NTFS.
Due to the different hardware used in your old and your new MBP the restore of Windows with WinClone will most likely not work.
Plus you cannot change the BootCamp Windows partition size when restoring a FAT32 Windows.
WinClone can only do that with a NTFS Windows.
Personally I would choose to install Windows new on your new MBP and start with a fresh Windows.
Hope it helps
Stefan

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