Bootcamp & 3tb non fusion drive - Windows 8.0 and 8.1
Is it true that on an IMAC 2013 with 3 tb non fusion drive it is possible to install, via bootcamp, windows 8.0 and not 8.1. I have read on internet a lot of discussions about the the 3tb problem and the fusion problem, but only speaking about the windows 8.1.
Besides if you read on the release notes of bootcamp 5.1 seem Aplle solved both problems related to 3tb and fusion drive; is this solution related only to windows 8.0 ?
Please, can someone give me a clear statement about this before buy the IMAC and windows?
my imac 21" mid 2011 run windows 8.1 update 1 just fine
got it with Lion
installed windows7 64bit ultimate from dvd in bootcamp
updated to mtn lion
updated digital windows 8 on win7
updated to maverics
updated digital windows 8.1
updated digital windows 8.1 update 1
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http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsbackup/thread/444e8ea2-6417-45dc-83d4-f5ae45bbaa02
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2: Apple_CoreStorage 121.0 GB disk0s2
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Also including what my CoreStorage structure looks like...Since it won't let me edit my post, here is the text from the picture:
CoreStorage logical volume groups (1 found)
|
+-- Logical Volume Group CB783377-EA29-4751-B149-FE6B210648B5
=========================================================
Name: Internal Drive
Status: Online
Size: 1066587906048 B (1.1 TB)
Free Space: 12288 B (12.3 KB)
|
+-< Physical Volume 0221F6E1-8EE1-453A-A0EB-B32348EB6E53
| ----------------------------------------------------
| Index: 0
| Disk: disk1s2
| Status: Online
| Size: 144162512896 B (144.2 GB)
|
+-< Physical Volume F74A0E21-6435-4CB2-801F-95682108A391
| ----------------------------------------------------
| Index: 1
| Disk: disk0s2
| Status: Online
| Size: 120988852224 B (121.0 GB)
|
+-< Physical Volume C2BD0D1A-7EA2-4E36-A3EF-82A7E63BE439
| ----------------------------------------------------
| Index: 2
| Disk: disk1s5
| Status: Online
| Size: 801436540928 B (801.4 GB)
|
+-> Logical Volume Family 9DD06D63-96CD-4088-8F0E-061026E68C29
Encryption Status: Unlocked
Encryption Type: None
Conversion Status: NoConversion
Conversion Direction: -none-
Has Encrypted Extents: No
Fully Secure: No
Passphrase Required: No
|
+-> Logical Volume A531CC02-E337-473E-8F1F-F462595E1354
Disk: disk3
Status: Online
Size (Total): 1060804022272 B (1.1 TB)
Conversion Progress: -none-
Revertible: No
LV Name: Macintosh HD
Volume Name: Macintosh HD
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Will VMware or Parallels work for a 3TB fusion drive?
I'm in the market for an iMac but I need windows for work-related stuff (and some games)
I have an older macbook pro (13" the first year the 13" went pro, 2009 i think) and I load windows through bootcamp, so no problems there.
I understand that the 3TB fusion drive won't work with bootcamp so my only option seems to be either VMware or Parallels (i haven't used either of these) to load Windows 7.
Just wanted to ask to make sure that there is no limitation with a 3TB fusion drive and VMware or Parallels.
Thanks in advance for any help,
ScottThere are limitations with either choice you make.
With boot camp, that is where you partition the drive to install windows and have a dual boot system, and a fusion drive windows will be installed on the rotating standard drive only. Not utilizing the ssd flash storage at all.
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if I install Windows 7 on iMac (what we have done many times and it works very good) does windows support the fusion drive?
Welcome to the Apple Support Communities
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Michael Conelly wrote:
After much gnashing of teeth, and a half dozen support calls, I'd all but given up. I finally seem to have solved this though - sort of - by installing windows 8.1 on boot camp on an older iMac, then cloning the bootcamp disk to an external thunderbolt drive via Winclone. That worked seamlessly, sticking to winclone's instructions, and I can boot via EFI to Windows 8.1 on the new iMac. So far so good.
I usually install W8.1 via EFI by using DU and a Free Space partition. The 3TB Fusion is first split into the underlying SSD/HDD physicals. OSX and Windows OSes are installed on SSD via EFI (no BCA). The OSX part and half the HDD are then used to create a new CS volume. The other HDD half becomes NTFS for non-Windows OS files. The Hybrid MBR method is completely unsatisfactory with the 3TB Fusion drive.
How is the TB/Winclone image for performance of the OS (since pagefile.sys is also on the TB)?
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