Bootcamp or Fusion or Parallels

I need to prepare a tax return that requires a Windows only application. I will not use Windows for any other purpose other than using this program once a year. Do you recommend using Boot Camp, VMWare Fusion, or Parallels? If you have a preference, why? Which version of Windows should I use as well? Thank you everyone for your guidance.
Richard

I use Parallels. One year ago there was some distinction with Fusion and Parallels, but the Parallels team has not only caught up (with things like "coherence mode" where Windows feels like any other Mac application running on your system so your mouse and keyboard and clipboard etc are all shared) but it's even prettier.
I'd say the money on Parallels is very well spent. Don't buy it from their website. Get it from Amazon or search it on Froogle. It's fully worth what you are looking for (BootCamp will be a pain because you have to boot into Windows and cannot use Mac at the same time).
All the stuff the previous poster mentions about "negative reviews" about support and whatnot is history. Parallels is not the better of the two imho, but you won't go wrong with either.

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Bootcamp vs Fusion vs Parallels

I need to prepare a tax return that requires a Windows only application. I will not use Windows for any other purpose other than using this program once a year. Do you recommend using Boot Camp, VMWare Fusion, or Parallels? If you have a preference, why? Which version of Windows should I use as well? Thank you everyone for your guidance.

Hi,
for uisng Windows for one program only and also one a year, I would propose a Virtualization app like either Fusion or Parallels.
Both are good ones (I have Parallels, others have Fusion).
You can alo have a look at VirtualBox http://www.virtualbox.org/ which (currently) is free.
As for Windows a XP Home Edition is sufficient, but for might be hard to find, since Microsoft has abandoned sale of it.
Or Vista Home Premium.
You might wanna tryout Codeweavers Crossover for Mac http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/ which don't even need a Windows license to buy.
Regards
Stefan

VMWare Fusion and Parallels Desktop Benchmark Comparison

This is a quickie benchmark of VMWare Fusion and Parallels Desktop using Super PI, PC Mark 05, and Passmark.
VMWare Fusion 36932
Parallels Desktop 3094 Beta 2
Notes:
Both virtual machines were allocated with large 10+ GB virtual disks and 640MB of RAM. The VMWare CPU was configured with two processors. The Parallels CPU was configured with 1 (two is not available). VMWare reported the CPU as 1 physical, 2 logical processors running at 2.66 GHz while Parallels reported 1 physical, 1 logical processor running at 9.6 GHz (the combined speed of all four cores on the Mac Pro). The max observed CPU utilization in activity monitor when running under VMWare was 200% and max under Parallels was 173%.
I chose not to compare 1 VMWare CPU vs. 1 Parallels CPU. While Parallels does not support SMP or multithreaded processes on multiple processors the CPU utilization on the Mac went well above 1 core (173%). For this comparison, I wanted to see results of max processing based on what the two vendors have delivered, as opposed to benchmarking the underlying "virtual or hypervisor cpu" on a 1:1 basis. This explains why VMWare was 2x faster than Parallels on some CPU tests.
Both of these products are beta. VMWare is running in debug mode (can not be turned off in this beta).
Caveat emptor on these stats. This was an unscientific exercise to satisfy my curiosity. Some of the extraordinary differences are highlighted with <--.
Platform:
Mac Pro 2.66 GHz, 2GB RAM, Nvidia 7300GT
Disk 1 - OS X, 73GB Raptor
Disk 2 - dedicated disk where each virtual machine image was created separate from the OS or any OS-related virtual memory files.
VMWare and Parallels guest OS: Windows XP Professional, SP 2
Comparison Benchmrk
VMWare Fusion 36932 and Parallels Desktop 3094 Beta 2
Super PI Parallels VMWare
512K 8s 9s
1M 20s 21s
4M 1m 57s 2m 03s
PC Mark 05 Parallels VMWare
CPU Test Suite N/A N/A
Memory Test Suite N/A N/A
Graphics Test Suite N/A N/A
HDD Test Suite N/A N/A
HDD - XP Startup 5.0 MB/s 19.54 MB/s <--
Physics and 3D Test failed Test failed
Transparent Windows Test failed 69.99 Windows/s
3D - Pixel Shader Test failed Test failed
Web Page Rendering 3.58 Pages/s 2.34 Pages/s
File Decrypt 71.73 MB/s 67.05 MB/s
Graphics Memory - 64 Lines 179.92 FPS 111.73 FPS
HDD - General Usage 4.82 MB/s 42.01 MB/s <--
Multithread Test 1 / Audio Comp N/A N/A
Multithread Test 1 / Video Encoding Test failed Test failed
Multithread Test 2 / Text Edit 152.85 Pages/s 138.48 Pages/s
Multithread Test 2 / Image DeComp 5.91 MPixels/s 35.4 MPixels/s <--
Multithread Test 3 / File Comp 3.22 MB/s 6.03 MB/s
Multithread Test 3 / File Encrypt 19.0 MB/s 33.26 MB/s <--
Multithread Test 3 / HDD - Virus Scan 27.91 MB/s 25.49 MB/s
Multithread Test 3 / Mem Lat - Rnd 16MB 5.34 MAcc/s 6.63 MAcc/s
File Comp N/A N/A
File DeComp N/A N/A
File Encrypt N/A N/A
File Decrypt N/A N/A
Image DeComp N/A N/A
Audio Comp N/A N/A
Multithread Test 1 / File Comp N/A N/A
Multithread Test 1 / File Encrypt N/A N/A
Multithread Test 2 / File DeComp N/A N/A
Multithread Test 2 / File Decrypt N/A N/A
Multithread Test 2 / Audio DeComp N/A N/A
Multithread Test 2 / Image DeComp N/A N/A
Memory Read - 16 MB N/A N/A
Memory Read - 8 MB N/A N/A
Memory Read - 192 kB N/A N/A
Memory Read - 4 kB N/A N/A
Memory Write - 16 MB N/A N/A
Memory Write - 8 MB N/A N/A
Memory Write - 192 kB N/A N/A
Memory Write - 4 kB N/A N/A
Memory Copy - 16 MB N/A N/A
Memory Copy - 8 MB N/A N/A
Memory Copy - 192 kB N/A N/A
Memory Copy - 4 kB N/A N/A
Memory Lat - Rnd 16 MB N/A N/A
Memory Lat - Rnd 8 MB N/A N/A
Memory Lat - Rnd 192 kB N/A N/A
Memory Lat - Rnd 4 kB N/A N/A
Transparent Windows N/A N/A
Graphics Memory - 64 Lines N/A N/A
Graphics Memory - 128 Lines N/A N/A
WMV Video Playback N/A N/A
3D - Fill Rate Multi Texturing N/A N/A
3D - Polygon Throughput Multiple Lights N/A N/A
3D - Pixel Shader N/A N/A
3D - Vertex Shader N/A N/A
HDD - XP Startup N/A N/A
HDD - Application Loading N/A N/A
HDD - General Usage N/A N/A
HDD - Virus Scan N/A N/A
HDD - File Write N/A N/A
Processor Intel Core 2 9653 MHz Processor Unknown 2661 MHz
Physical / Logical CPUs "1 Physical, 1 Logical" "1 Physical, 2 Logical"
MultiCore 1 Processor Core Multicore 2 Processor Cores
HyperThreading N/A N/A
Graphics Card Generic VGA Generic VGA
Graphics Driver Parallels Video Driver VMWare SVGA II
Co-operative adapters No No
DirectX Version 9.0c 9.0c
System Memory 640 MB 640MB
Motherboard Manufacturer N/A Intel Corporation
Motherboard Model N/A 440BX Desktop Reference Platform
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Microsoft Windows XP
Passmark Parallels VMWare
CPU - Integer Math (MOPS) 112.35 230.31 <--
CPU - Floating Point Math (MOPS) 280.46 588.33 <--
CPU - Find Prime Numbers (OPS) 446.37 676.99 <--
CPU - SSE/3DNow! (MMPS) 2118.56 4737.13 <--
CPU - Comp (KB/s) 2994.16 5952.34 <--
CPU - Encrypt (MB/s) 18.09 36.27 <--
CPU - Image Rotation (IRPS) 598.21 1184.41 <--
CPU - String Sorting (TPS) 2118.81 3672.59 <--
Graphics 2D - Lines (TPS) 220.71 25.15 <--
Graphics 2D - Rectangles (TPS) 189.74 61.8 <--
Graphics 2D - Shapes (TPS) 39.54 13.71 <--
Graphics 2D - Fonts and Text (OPS) 190.39 75.88 <--
Graphics 2D - GUI (OPS) 439.77 63.72 <--
Memory - Allocate Small Block (MB/s) 2533.83 2526.21
Memory - Read Cached (MB/s) 1960.5 1906.27
Memory - Read Uncached (MB/s) 1871.79 1826.08
Memory - Write (MB/s) 1687.81 1545.43
Memory - Large RAM (OPS) 60.99 46.37
Disk - Sequential Read (MB/s) 102.11 76.45 <--
Disk - Sequential Write (MB/s) 58.33 50.9
Disk - Rnd Seek + RW (MB/s) 51.4 40.4
CPU Mark 711.08 1432.72 <--
2D Graphics Mark 743.31 176.5 <--
Memory Mark 599.94 580.38
Disk Mark 766.11 606.7
PassMark Rating 557.27 637.35<br>

Thanks for posting these numbers - it's an interesting comparison.
I would expect the final VMWare fusion performance numbers to be quite a bit better than that of Parallels - they have almost a decade's worth of experience more than the Parallels folks in this arena, and a much larger development team to boot.
Once VMWare Fusion is released to the public, I think that you'll see a clearer distinction between the two products. VMWare will continue to appeal to the professional customer, with a more robust feature set and corporate-friendly features (and a correspondingly higher price tag); Parallels will fall more into the consumer/VirtualPC-replacement market. It will be interesting to see how Parallels will be affected when (and if) VMWare player is ported to OS X.
Interesting about the Parallels performance stats on a native partition - looks like almost enough reason to avoid the bootcamp partition approach altogether. Sharing a native windows installation with a VM in parallels is a pretty scary situation in any case, as the two environments have entirely different hardware configurations. Do-able, but there is some black magic involved (if you want to see an example of what I mean, try to move a windows installation from one machine to another w/different hardware sometime - it ain't pretty); I wouldn't try this in a production scheme unless I had REALLY good backups.

Running Autodesk Inventor using Fusion or Parallel on Intel Mac

I need to be able to run Autodesk Inventor and DO NOT want to purchase a PC to do it. If I use VMware Fusion or Parallel on an Intel Mac will it operate without any glitches. Our tech guy said that the keyboard shortcuts are not going to be the same, is that true and are there any other issues I will come up against (i.e. system speed, ram, video card etc.)

Hi and welcome to Discussions,
your signature says that you are using PPC-Macs (Power Mac; Powerbook).
Parallels and Fusion only work on Intel-Macs.
Same for BootCamp.
So, if your sig is still uptodate, you are out of luck.
Your tech guy might refer to the fact, that Apples keyboards have a slightly different layout than the usual PC keyboard.
See here for a comparison: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304270
On Intel-Macs some guys round here and in the BootCamp Forum have reported success in running Autodesk software on their Intel-Macs.
Please do a search for these threads.
Regards
Stefan

Fusion or Parallels on Macbook Air?

What should I use... Parallels or Fusion to run WinXP on a Macbook Air?

After doing a google search, there were a couple of links that compared Bootcamp, Fusion and Parallels; I chose VMware Fusion. Mostly because I have experience with VMware products and I was just able to copy a VM guest (WinXP) from my Vista machine to my MBA.
With bootcamp I believe there were some problems with drivers (the trackpad and battery/sleep not working properly), you'd have to search for the details. Fusion is running great, no problems; I haven't tried Unity yet.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=418240
http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9760910-1.html
http://macosx.com/forums/boot-camp-os-virtualization-mac/297837-bootcamp-paralle ls-fusion-experience.html
Regards-Michael G.

VMware Fusion vs Parallels Desktop 3.0

i want to run Windows XP or Windows Vista on my mac.
which among VMware Fusion and Parallels would be a much better program/software to buy?
what are the pros & cons of each?
should i buy now or would waiting for Leopard's release (with a new Boot Camp version) be much better?
thanks.

I have Parallels installed on my wife's MacBook and I have Fusion installed on mine. I think if you are using it in a home environment, Parallels would be better as it's snazzier in it's implementation. But for a work type environment, I would recommend Fusion. VMWare has lots of experience with virtualization, and if you have a Linux/Windows VM that is already built and configured, it would be quite easy to just port it over to Fusion to run.
Fusion is probably playing a bit of catch up with Parallels but eventually it will get there, and I expect them to overtake Parallels.
Both software has free trials, and I would recommend that you download both and try them out to see which one you would prefer.

What does it take to run Boot Camp, Fusion or Parallels

I am wondering about upgrading to Leopard to use Boot Camp, Fusion or Parallels. I have found that a significant amount of software that I want to run is not available in a Mac version. The other issue is that many programs I already have for Windows would be very expensive to replace with a Mac version. Thus I want to run a Windows operating system on my MacBook. I do not want to suffer from slow performance because the hardware is not robust enough. I would appreciate some honest chatter about what I need hardware wise to make this thing fly.
1 How much main memory should I have? I currently have 1GB.
2 How big should the hard drive be? I currently have a 75 GB drive with 45 GB available.
3 Anyone that has run Windows or runs both; am I simply better off buying a new HP and running Windows programs on a native Windows computer? I hate this alternative. However, I would rather use my computer than spend time trying to figure out why it is not working.
Thanx in advance

1. Parallels (and probably Fusion) should run in Tiger, though you would almost certainly want 2GB of RAM. With Leopard, 2GB would be the absolute minimum, I think, for Parallels and Fusion. With Leopard and Boot Camp, 1GB should not be a problem, but it shouldn't cost much to upgrade to 2GB which will be better.
2. Since you have 45GB available, you should be ok with Parallels or Fusion. With Boot Camp, you would probably be limited to about a 20GB Windows partition, but that is conceivably plenty. If you decide on Boot Camp, you would also want to back up your hard drive before installing Leopard, and then do an erase and install, not an upgrade or an archive and install, lest you both use too much disk space and/or run into the "some files could not be moved" problem. When installing Leopard, you may also want to select the option to not install languages and/or printer drivers, to save some disk space.
3. I don't see why you should buy an HP unless it has a graphics card and you feel you need a graphics card.
Boot Camp will run faster than Fusion or Parallels, but this is only relevant if your software is computation or resource intensive. Also, with Fusion or Parallels you would be limited to a smaller amount of Windows RAM, which, however, is also mainly relevant only if your software is memory intensive. With Boot Camp, you will get decent performance, but Leopard will take up more disk space, and Windows will require more disk space. This is why I supplied the disk-saving tip above, even though you don't currently have a lot of free disk space.

How many licenses for Windows 7 via both Boot Camp and either VMware Fusion or Parallels on the same MacBook?

This concerns a white MacBook running OS X 10.5.8 Leopard.
If I install Windows 7 on my MacBook with Boot Camp, and then use either VMware Fusion or Parallels to access that Boot Camp partition, will I need to buy two Windows licenses from Microsoft?
I had not anticipated this, but when calling VMware and Parallels to check out the tech support services of the two companies, the person at VMware mentioned that I would need two licenses. When I called Parallels, I then asked the person at that company whether two Windows licenses would be needed. That person told me that only one license would be necessary.
I then called Microsoft. The representative there told me that my question could not be answered by Microsoft because that company does not provide support for users installing Windows on Apple computers.
After that, I called Apple. The Apple representative was not familiar with this type of issue. She mentioned the possibility that the VMware Fusion and Parallels products might be different, and that that might be why using the former would involve two licenses and using the latter would involve only one license.
Has anyone had experience with installing Windows 7 via Boot Camp, and then accessing that Windows 7 installation from VMware Fusion or Parallels? If so, did you have to buy two Windows licenses?

One license. You may have to re-register Windows online when you start it up in Parallels because Windows sees that it is now running on new hardware (virtualized) and thinks it has been installed on a new computer. If the online re-registration does not work, just call the registration number and go through the automated registration process. Once re-registered then use Windows from Parallels. If you are also installing MS Office in Windows you will need to go through the same process again for registering Office.
The process is automated, simple, and free. You have made the process more complicated than it is by calling Apple, Parallels, and Microsoft when there is an automated MS registration number to call.

VM Fusion and Parallels and even a Boot Camp question

I have both Fusion and Parallels installed and have a question about how Windows is displayed .
with Parallels, I get the usual Windows desktop and with Fusion I get a "menu" for navagating to different areas/programs/settings
What can I do to get Fusion to display the Windows desktop as Parallels does? I haven't used either enough to know which I prefer, but I can tell you one thing, I immediately disabled the internet connection for both. There is NO WAY I would ever connect to the 'net in Windows.
I actually think that after I get Leopard I will try installing Boot Camp just for comparisons sake. I will have to "slipstream" a disk with XP to include SP2, but the directions are pretty clear, if I read them really slowly.
I'd really like to hear from someone who has successfully "slipstreamed" a disk.
thanks

Sounds like you were using Fusion's Coherence mode to launch individual applications which some people prefer. But you should have first had Windows desktop.
http://communities.vmware.com/community/vmtn/desktop/fusion

Access Boot Camp Partition via Fusion or Parallels

I already have a 20gb Vista partition on my Mac is it possible to access that via Fusion or Parallels without rebooting?

I use Fusion with a boot camp partition containing Windows Vista. No issues when running both Leopard and Fusion with Windows.
One thing to note though and that is if you are planning to play Windows based games via Fusion then forget it. It will be very slow and in most cases unplayable due to speed. Now, if you are running productivity software (MS Office for Windows etc) then you will love this convenience.
Axel F.

Running Audition 3.0 on Win7, alternating between BootCamp on Mac and Parallels cause re-activation

Can anyone or Adobe themselves give an explanation as to how Audition 3.0 (and perhaps Audition CS5.5) verifies the machine hardware that it is running on to ensure that the purchased software license is not being installed on multiple machines?
I ask because it would appear that Audition 3.0 (at least) views its installation on the same single Windows 7 image as being 2 separate PCs if the same Windows 7 is booted into parallels and then at others times into BootCamp.
Yes, yes I know I can get Audition CS5.5 natively for the Mac, but for now I wish to run Audition in Windows. So please avoid discussions on this and instead offer me some advice as to why/how Audition reads the hardware it is running on.
The problem:
- I boot into BootCamp Windows, Audition 3.0 runs OK.
- Boot into MacOS, run same BootCamp VM Windows from parallels, run Audition 3.0, it runs asking for registratation. Registration succeeds.
- Boot into BootCamp Windows, Audition 3.0 runs runs asking for registratation. Registration succeeds.
And so on...
If I stick with one mode of running Windows, i.e. BootCamp OR via Parallels, Audition doesn't ask again, however, switching between the two triggers the re-registration.
Using the same VM/Windows install image/drive.
But I guess what is happening here is that the (virtual) "hardware" profile/signature/id presented to Windows/and 3rd-party applications, is different in BootCamp and Parallels and that applications such as Audition use this for authentication/registration to prove that the license is only running on the same hardware.
An ideal solution is that Parallels complies with the same hardware profile that BootCamp presents to Windows and 3rd party applications so that both Parallels and BootCamp are wholly seen as the same machine.
I've raised a support ticket with Parallels themselves.
I've posted on Parallels forum thread: http://forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?t=103398
awaiting moderation
But I also think Adobe could be a bit smarter as to how they detect that their software is running on the same machine that it is licensed for.

Arjaydavis wrote:
Can anyone or Adobe themselves give an explanation as to how Audition 3.0 (and perhaps Audition CS5.5) verifies the machine hardware that it is running on to ensure that the purchased software license is not being installed on multiple machines?
I think it's very, very unlikely that you'll get an answer to this. Simply because to answer it is an out-and-out invitation to hackers. All I can tell you is that each copy of Audition will allow two installations, but only on different hardware, and that you aren't strictly allowed to use them concurrently. The intention is that you can have one install on a desktop, and another on a laptop. Any conjecture that you might make about this may or may not be true - even if you guess correctly though, I doubt whether you could easily do anything about it. The only thing that Adobe are going to do is to offer to sell you another seat, I guess - that way you could have three installs. But requests for further information are almost certainly going to fall on deaf ears.

New MBP,..Should I install Bootcamp first,..then Parallels to the Bootcamp partition?, New MBP,..Should I install Bootcamp first,..then Parallels to the Bootcamp partition?

What is the install process for Bootcamp/Parallels?
I have a new MBP being delivered today and need to install Windows for one program. What is the process to install a VM?
I heard that I should install Bootcamp first, then install Parallels to the Bootcamp partition. Any advice? Thx.

I guess I shold explain more about what I am doing.
I will be running a CRM program (Windows Based), and a Order Entrry program (Windows Based) (Memory Hog) all the time. Along with this, I will have Lotus Notes for Mac and Mac Mail open all the time.
Is there any harm, comcern, issues, hesitation,....to using Bootcamp to Parallels/Windows?
I just want to get this configuration correct the first time.
Also,...Am I able to drag files between Mac/PC ???

Boot Camp 2.1 ruined my fonts - Fusion or Parallels for CS3 - need help?

As Boot Camp 2.1 has been known to cause problems with Adobe Open Type fonts, I need to run Windows XP and Adobe Photoshop CS3 on a virtual machine.
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=8414651#8414651
Which one would better suit my needs, Fusion or Parallels?
Thanks!

Trisha K:
Parallels and Fusion pretty much use the same principle to use Windows as a virtual machine. I use VMWare Fusion and it pretty much serves my needs as I only use it when I am logged into OSx and need to boot into Windows to run MS Office applications. I personally prefer running Windows natively with boot camp.
Please note that both Parallels and Fusion will share/split RAM with OSx. I am not sure how this will affect the overall performance of Adobe Photoshop. You may sacrifice some speed and performance while using Windows in a virtual machine environment.
Axel F.

Anyone using 3DSMAX via BootCamp or Fusion/Parallels?

Just about ready to convert our computers (10 PC's) to MACs, and we use 3DSMAX, Does anyone have success using 3DSMAX with virtualization software and or bootcamp?

I take it that is a Windows application, so perhaps you should post this question in the Windows Compatibility forum. This forum is not the proper one for your question. You might also post a question with the developer of the program's tech support.

Kernel Panic 10.4.8. with MacPro 3.0 and VMWARE Fusion Beta/ Parallels (?)

Hello,
got I couple of times different Kernel panics in
AppleIntel8254XE. Seams to me, that this is Macos 10.4.8 related, and same as in http://forum.parallels.com/thread7375.html .
1.) Sun Jan 14 00:14:06 2007
panic(cpu 0 caller 0x0035BEAC): freeing free mbuf
Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
Backtrace continues...
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.driver.AppleIntel8254XEthernet(1.1.4a5)@0x35148000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.5.1)@0x35102000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.1)@0x35014000
com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.5.1)@0x35102000
2.) Sun Jan 14 00:12:29 2007
panic(cpu 0 caller 0x0035BEAC): mfreemlist: m_nextpkt of m_next != NULL
Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x2504b6e8 : 0x128d1f (0x3c9540 0x2504b70c 0x131df4 0x0)
Backtrace continues...
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.driver.AppleIntel8254XEthernet(1.1.4a5)@0x35148000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.5.1)@0x35102000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.1)@0x35014000
com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.5.1)@0x35102000
Backtrace continues...
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.driver.AppleIntel8254XEthernet(1.1.4a5)@0x35148000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.5.1)@0x35102000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.1)@0x35014000
com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.5.1)@0x35102000

Already made. In the meantime one more report in VMTN
about the same issue with parallels.
Henri
Can you link to the parallels thread?
I can reliably reproduce a kernel panic in 10.4.8 by ejecting a volume mounted from a host system (default afp mount) that is either of two macintel systems (mini & mbp).
Problem started when I installed Fusion, went away when I de-installed. Both systems also have Parallels (latest build but one) installed.
The workaround of unloading the networking kexts makes me nervous -- sooner or later I'll forget, and then KABLOOEY!
OS X

Bootcamp or Fusion or Parallels

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