Bootcamp overheating

Hey there,
I'm trying to explain my problem and my experience with the apple support. Sorry about any mistakes, english isn't my native language.
A few month ago I bought a new Macbook Pro 15", End 2011 (8GB RAM, 2.2GHz i7, OSX 10.7.4) and started to use Windows via Bootcamp. That was a mistake, I think. (Windows + Mac = not working properly) My Mac is running too hot under Bootcamp. The temperature is about 90C (~190F) and you can't touch the keyboard because it's too hot. (You better not put the computer on your leg!!)
I bought my mac because I want OSX and Windows. The advertisment on apple.com told me that it's "no problem" to use Windows by using Bootcamp.
Can I play Windows-based games on my Mac?
Absolutely. Not only can you enjoy your favorite Windows-based games, you can keep on using your favorite gamepads and joysticks. Gaming requires a lot from your processor, graphic card, and RAM, so here are two tips. First, seek out a computer with a separate graphics card, such as an iMac, MacBook Pro, and Mac Pro. Second, use the Boot Camp approach to ensure the smoothest graphics rendering and highest frame rates.
Yeah, it's no problem ... just too hot. I searched for a solution and found out, that Windows isn't using the internal Intel graphic. The only solution I found was to set the fan under OSX to "high" and reboot without turning off the Mac completly. That worked but the fan is set to 6200 rpm. (You can't talk to your friend if you are sitting at the front of your Mac - it's too loud...)
So I called Apple because I thought that they are responsible for problems with bootcamp. That was the biggest mistake I could do. Really.
First Call:
An staff from apple opened up a ticket for me and said that apple will call me back in a few days. They will find out a sloution for me.
Me: "Yeah, and my mac is running to hot under windows. It's so hot - I can't touch the keyboard anymore!"
Staff: "Oh. That sounds like a problem."
Oh. Really?
Nothing happend! They did not call me back.
Second Call:
I called Apple again with the same problem and a staff reopened my ticket. He told me that he want to redirect me to the "bootcamp specialist" and he will find a solution for me. 25 minutes later I talked to a "specialist" and he told me that this is a problem of Microsoft. Apple isn't Microsoft so they don't support Windows, he told me. I have to call Microsoft if there are still problems. The bootcamp drivers are from Microsoft too. My Macbook isn't design to run Windows so it's my problem if it's running too hot.
I'm pretty disappointed about Apple! I bought a 2500$ machine and they promised that it's possible to run Windows and playing high-end games without having any problems. That's wrong! The best part: The problem is known. Many people are having the same trouble and Apple isn't able to help. So, please: Does somebody have a solution to get windows working under Bootcamp really well without overheating and setting the fan speed under OSX?
Thanks for reading..

I have been coaching for 4 yrs about yes it is 90-95% compatible but thermal sensors and fan control is the major weak link probably.
With Vista, with older Macs, there was a utility - InputRemapper - for keyboard and also could manually boost the fans and set a higher default rpm (1000) with ability to change as needed.
Apple at the bottom of most tech articles has something to effect of providing support to only create partition and install Windows.
And laptops have only gotten to be small and hotter little microwaves.

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Message was edited by: ensigne

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I could reproduce the occurance of the entry in the system.log
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