Bootcamp vs. Parallel

I need windows for a computer programming class......but I've heard some bad stuff about both these app's....do any of you know which ones runs better, and faster?.....
Also...my istat pro says that I've used 18.32 GB of HD and I have 93.15GB of HD left......these two added comes out to 111.47....I ordered a 120 GB..and i guess the 8 something GB's are just the basic app's...but I really don't understand where I lost the 18.32 GB of HD space at....I've only downloaded a couple of widgets and programs..( such as core duo temp...)....does anyone have any idea where it couda went? ,,,,is everyone else like this too?//
----> I knoe this is a kinda vague question...but any kinda advice would help......
THank You!~~
one last thing, should I use core duo temp or temp monitor?.

I use Parallels, it is very good, I even use my Mac for programming (VB, Access, SQLServer) and it runs very quickly.
Parallels is better for me as I like to switch from Windows to OSX frequently, with Bootcamp, that would require a restart. The only issue I have with Parallels is that I cannot use my iSight in Windows, but this is no Biggy
Your hard disk is quoted unformatted and they also count a Gigabyte as 1000MB, which is not strictly true (1024) so that is why you get a discrepancy, space left is 111.5 GB (119,690,149,888 Bytes) on a 120GB drive
I use Core duo temp, but I leave it on the dashboard, that way I can reduce clutter. Widgets quite often get downloaded as zip files on your desktop.

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Can Bootcamp and Parallels share the same Windows applications and data?

I'm looking at getting an Intel iMac which will let me throw away my old PC - Yeah!
I will have a couple of Win apps that I will need to hang on to (Quicken - Quicken for Mac is horrible, but that's another tghread). Anyway, can Bootcamp and Parallels share the same Windows applications and data?
My thought would be to allow my wife to access Quicken from Parallels and not have to reboot. She will only need lightweight access and the overhead of running virtualization wouldn't impact her. I, on the other hand, would want to occasionally boot natively into Windows and run the same application with the same datafile. Is this possible?
Thanks and looking forward to joining the MacIntel world!

Thanks for all of the freplies. I suspected that BootCamp and Parallels could not shar ethe same partition, but wanted to verify. To address some of the other posts:
Re: Quicken vs MoneyDance - I looked at MoneyDance a while back and while it is comparable to Quicken for Mac, it isn't comparable to Quicken for Windows (ergo, Quicken for Mac isn't comparable to Quicken for Windows!). But, as I said, that is a topic for another thread!
Re: Using Bootcamp/Parallels for only one app: I actually have several apps that I still need access to on Windows. I work with many business applications than only run/are supported on Windows as well as receive some complex Office documents which Office for Mac cannot handle. Quicken (for Windows 2007) was just the best example of a consumer app where I could see wanting access from both OS X and Windows.

How should I install/setup a single OS of windows 7 to run through bootcamp and parallels 7 on my new macbook pro?

I just bought a new macbook 8g ram and 750g harddrive and want to be able to run windows 7 through bootcamp and parallels. How do I setup that up and install a single version of windows (want to be able to utilize heavy programs - photoshop, 3D modeling CAD etc. - by installing them once and being able to use them through parallels 7 or bootcamp)? Please let me know of anything that may red flag by doing this and clear concise instructions of which to do first/ settings for bootcamp and parallels

BootCamp is directly booting your computer into Windows for full hardware access and performance, just like a PC. It's free from Apple.
https://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/
Virtual machine software (paid) like Parallels and VMFusion both can take the Bootcamped Windows and make a copy for use in OS X in a window at the same time as using OS X, but less performance. It's usualyl easiler to use.
A free virtual machine option is VirtualBox, but it might not have all the bells and whistles of the payware options above, but works just fine.
We can't provide detailed installation instructions, it's too much, you will have to read Apple's instructions and the manual for your virtual machine software.
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/boot_camp_install-setup_10.7.pdf

Looking to run windows on my MBPro through Bootcamp or Parallels, but would like to use a downloaded Windows 7, is it possible to install without the Windows Disc?

Looking to run windows on my MBPro through Bootcamp or Parallels, but would like to use a downloaded Windows 7, is it possible to install without the Windows Disc?
Need to set up a workstation on my MBPro that will only run on Windows. Im willing to use Bootcamp or Parallels to see what works best. Need to get this set up this week to enable working from home on my MB - rural and hoping to buy Windows 7 online - am I able to get windows working through either bootcamp or Parallels without the actual Windows disc? Bootcamp set up guide calls for a disc.

Welcome to Apple Support Communities
First, the answer to your question is yes, it IS possible to install Windows in Parallels without a disc, using an .iso image file.
Boot Camp since OS X 10.8 also installs Windows without a disc: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4889551?tstart=0
Parallels has complete documentation, series of forums, and a knowledgebase. You can also download the current release of Parallels 9 and try it for free for a few weeks before you decide to purchase it.
The Parallels Desktop for Mac product page: http://www.parallels.com/products/desktop/
The Desktop for Mac forums: http://forum.parallels.com/forumdisplay.php?58-Parallels-Desktop-for-Mac
Documentation: http://www.parallels.com/support/desktop-virtualization/desktop/#c12970
The Knowledgebase for Desktop for Mac: http://kb.parallels.com
The primary difference between a Boot Camp installation and a Parallels installation is that in the Boot Camp installation, you're installing Windows into a separate partition on your internal mass storage device (hard drive or SSD) and then rebooting your Mac directly into Windows.
In Parallels, you're always running OS X on the Mac and Parallels is running a Windows virtual machine.
Not to get too technical here, but it is also possible for Parallels to run an installed Windows Boot Camp partition as a virtual machine. If you're evaluating system performance with a trial copy, that might be the way to go, because you only have to install Windows once on Boot Camp as a dual-boot system, then install Parallels Desktop and run the Boot Camp partition as the virtual machine.
There is a performance difference between the two, with the Boot Camp Windows installation being faster, but without the convenience of running both Mac and Windows applications simultaneously offered by Parallels. Sometimes that convenience outweighs a performance hit.
I can't give you more Mavericks and Parallels 9 specifics, because I'm currently running Windows 7 with Parallels 7 on OS X 10.8.5. Parallels 7 will not run on OS X 10.9 Mavericks.
I've been using Parallels (to run a few old rarely-used WIndows applications with features that would require a steep learning curve and major expense to purchase and learn a similar Mac app) occasionally since Parallels 3 and Windows XP. With each new release of OS X, each new release of Parallels, and each new Windows release, there are ALWAYS 'early adopter' bugs that get worked out over time.
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Bootcamp or parallels for new macbook pro user

I am about to make the switch from pc and purchase one of the new macbook pros that came out today. I don't fully understand how bootcamp and parallels work yet and which would be better for my needs.
I am an architect and will need to run windows for 3d modeling and rendering occasionally. Most likely I will have to use XP pro since Vista isn't yet supported in my work environment. Although I am used to pc operating systems, I think most of the rest of my work could be done using a mac os. Ideally, I would be able to use both simultaneously, but I have heard that parallels is slow.
any thoughts would be much appreciated.

Hi,
personally I don't use Fusion but Parallels.
Both claim that they can use an existing BootCamp Windows partition for creating their Virtual Machines.
However there are a lot of postings that this worked for one and that this has destroyed the BootCamp Windows for others.
For myself I have a BootCamp Windows XP and Parallels with an old Windows 2000 I had lying around.
If you let Fusion use your BootCamp Windows for creating its VM, then there should be no need to reinstall the Windows programs, although it could happen that you have the reenter serial numbers for these programs.
A reformat is not neccessary since Fusion puts the Virtual machine (which in fact consists of 2-3 files) on your OSX partition.
Given the fact that you most certainly need a BootCamp Windows in order to run your architecture programs, I would propose to this first.
Stefan

BootCamp or Parallels 6? Windows 7 or Windows XP?

Hello all!
I have this question that has been haunting me for a pretty long time, but now that I got a copy of windows XP and windows 7, I've decided to ask and get rid of this dilemma.
So, first let me give you the main directions:
1- I have a 15" 2010 model, macbook pro core i5 2,4.
2- I need the longest-lasting battery life. Even if the difference is only 15-30 minutes, that's a lot for me.
3- I need windows for playing games.
Based on that, should I use windows 7 or XP, for better battery life?
How about performance, is windows XP so much faster than 7?
And finally, considering what's above, should I run windows with bootcamp or parallels 6?
Thanks!

timelover wrote:
BobTheFisherman wrote:
This is becoming very confusing given you are asking questions in two threads.
You should/can only install one version of Windows using Bootcamp. I'd go with Windows 7. If you install Windows using Bootcamp to take advantage of all the computer's resources (better gaming performance), you can then if you want install Parallels and tell Parallels to use your Bootcamp installion of Windows 7. Then to get best performance boot into Windows 7 for gaming and if you want you can start parallels with the same Windows 7 installation for running other Windows programs.
You seem to be under the impression that you need to install Windows using Bootcamp and again using Parallels. You don't install Windows twice. You install Windows using Bootcamp once then tell Parallels to use this same installation as its target OS.
Hey you were the one that told me to ask my questions over here!
True. But you continued posting over there.
I'm aware that I dont need to install windows twice. I will install it using bootcamp for gaming, mainly.
Good. XP is no longer supported by Microsoft so you won't get security updates. IMHO, install Windows 7 and move on. Windows 7 has many advantages over XP including: more secure, supported, better user interface, better networking, etc.
However, i've read that when you are running OSX and then use parallels, there were supposed to be a difference in terms of performance if you choose the "already installed by bootcamp windows partition", instead of letting parallels create it's own partition from the windows installation DVD.
Whenever you run an OS in Parallels or any other similar software such as Fusion, you get a performance hit because Parallels uses part of your computer's resources and OSx uses part of your computer's resources. For example, if your computer has 4GB of RAM, Parallels will use say 2GB for Windows and OSx will use 2 GB for OSx. If you install Windows using Bootcamp, Windows can use all 4GB of your computer's RAM.(You need to install the 64bit version of Windows to take advantage of more than 3GB of RAM.
I need to know that to make the decision: use windows XP or windows 7 with parallels, since I'd like to be on OSX but, at the same time, have the possibility of pressing a button and switching to Windows.
That is what Parallels allows. If you install Windows (either version) using Bootcamp then specify in Parallels to use the Bootcamp installation of Windows as the target OS you can be in OSx then start up Parallels showing a Windows with Windows 7 (or XP depending on what you installed using Bootcamp) running in it. Or, because you installed Windows (either version) using Bootcamp, you have the option of booting Windows natively, without running OSx at any time to benefit from the performance advantage for running games. Regardless of whether you boot Windows from within Parallels or natively, it is the same Windows installation, and associated data files, that you are running and accessing.
What's really on my mind is this: Is Seven outperformed by XP when on a VM, like parallels? If so, can Seven overcome this disadvantage by the process of choosing the bootcamp installation instead of creating a new one?
The issue is running any version of Windows in Parallels will result in less performance than running any version of Windows natively from the Bootcamp partition.
If windows XP runs smoother/has better performance, I'll go with XP. If Seven has the leverage, i'll go with it.
XP never ran "smooter" than Windows 7 for many reasons: stability, age, security, etc. etc.
Thanks

Bootcamp and Parallels

Can I run bootcamp and Parallels on the same Mac? How do I run Bootcamp if I've already installed Parallels? Do I have to re-format my drive and start over?

Here's why you want to install both: Parallels accesses your existing Windows installation you did with Boot Camp. You don't have to boot into Windows if you install Parallels after you've installed Windows in its own Boot Camp partition and you don't have to install Windows again. It's much safer because the work you do is saved on the windows partition, not on a virtual drive. Of course, you can still boot to Windows if you need to.
You can open Windows programs right with your Mac apps and switch among them as if they were native by using Parallels. You will have to activate Windows again for some reason, but it's painless unless you've installed it more than twice in which case you have to call Microsoft.
Boot Camp is free of course and simply partitions the hard drive, you don't "run" boot camp as ZooCrew already pointed out, you actually boot to windows on startup. You do "run" Parallels which accesses your windows partition. Quite slick. I use it for Quicken because the Mac version blows hard, and another program I have to use for work that is Windows only for now.

Installation of Windows: first bootcamp or Parallels?

Hi Folks, I just need to install windows 7 (maybe also vista) via bootcamp and via parallels 6. So I need to now which one I have to install first: bootcamp or parallels?

Depends
Bootcamp= Gives windows all the power of your mac (like memory and CPU performance)
Parallels= Runs Windows on top of Mac.
It depends on what you are doing if you are doing heavy tasks then Bootcamp. But if not then Parallels is a great.
If you have not bought Parallels then I would try VirtualBox (Link) its the same thing as Parallels but its free.

HT4818 Can you use both Bootcamp and Parallels with the same Windows 7 installed

I have Parallels installed with Windows 7. Can I use both Bootcamp and Parallels on the same machine depending on whether I just want to work in Windows all day (Bootcamp) or alternate during the same session (Parallels)?

You can, yes. But there is a complication: once you activate windows it will only be activated for one of the two methods you use. So, let's say you install into boot camp and activate windows. You can then install Parallels and it will find your boot camp installation, but when running in Parallels, Windows will report that it is not activated. Or, you can activate it in Parallels and when running in Boot Camp Windows will report that it is not activated. The reason for this is because Windows thinks it is running on different computers depending on how you boot it. This may not be an issue for you if you run Windows a lot one way and just occasionally the other way, so be sure to activate Windows in whichever method you use more often. Hope this helps!

Bootcamp or Parallels for 3D softwares

Hi.
Need advise on which is better to use, Bootcamp or Parallels for 3D software (Autocad and Vectorworks... max 3 softwares) for my 15 inch MBP (2012) (base model)
Thanks.
S

That convenience comes with a price. And dual boot to run Windows natively is another price!
But in the end you have the option for when you do need to or find the VM just runs too sluggish to be useful.
Depends on amount of RAM at the disposal of the system, the processor (more cores, not just more threads), and even if the VM or Mac or Windows are on an SSD can help too.
A VM is another large app running along Mac OS that is itself running Windows running your CAD or 3D or other apps and processes.
Dynamically assigning RAM and processes is the smart way to allocate but has been slow in reaching the desktop. Servers have done it for years if not decades.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_VMware_Fusion_and_Parallels_Desktop

Run Windows via BootCamp or Parallels Desktop?

I recently picked up a mid-2011 11" MacBook Air (2GB RAM, 64GB storage) and am wondering it it is possible to run Windows on this configuration via either BootCamp or Parallels Desktop?

If Ross-Tech is only vendor, answer is a yes, but with caveats.
Will there be a Mac or Linux version?
There will be no "native" Mac or Linux versions. The time and effort required to "port" VCDS to these platforms would never be worthwhile. VCDS works fine on Apple Mac computers that have Intel processors (all modern Macs) when Windows is installed on them using Boot Camp. Most computers that are used to run Linux can also boot Windows. If you do not wish to install Windows, we now offer a platform-independent version of VCDS called "VCDS-Mobile".
PS there is a mobile version found it via
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Installing Bootcamp with Parallels installed

Hey guys.
I need to install Bootcamp to run Rhinoceros and Grasshopper with full graphics support. It isn't a good idea to run these programs only on parallels. However, I am told that I need to install Bootcamp BEFORE parallels if I want them to share the same Windows copy. I already have parallels installed, along with Revit and the full Microsoft Office suite. I don't want to delete all of my installed programs to install windows onto Bootcamp. Is there anyway to salvage this without having to dig up old codes and trying to get all my software back?
My end-goal is to be able to work in Bootcamp for serious CAD and drafting software, whilst still maintaining the capability of opening these same files for viewing and light edting in Parallels while running Mac. I would be using Bootcamp ONLY for Rhinoceros Grasshopper and Revit. Excel PPT word and other microsoft applications would be run exclusively through parallels.
Thank you for your views and responses
- Thomas

without knowing anything about parallels and feeling that the parallels forum would likely be a safer place to confirm your questions then
I would think that they mean that you just have to have installed bootcamp before creating the virtual machine in parallels which is to access the windows partition not wait with installing the virtual machine software(parallels) itself
but as stated parallels is about the only virtual machine software I have no experience with at all

How should I upgrade hard drive with bootcamp partition & Parallels too

I need to replace the hard drive in my 24" iMac (model 8,1 - early 2008). My major concern is how to deal with my Windows XP in Parallels using a Bootcamp partition. I have yet to find software that runs in OSX 7 (Lion) that will clone both the OSX partition and the Bootcamp NTFS partition. It would appear that the most practical approach would be to use bootcamp assistant to remove the NTSF bootcamp partition and then clone just the OSX partition to my new drive and then recreate the bootcamp and parallels installations and reinstall Windows XP from scratch. Seems rather inelegant, so I'm hoping someone has advice based on experience. I'm truly hoping there is a more elegant way and any suggestions are appreciated.

Kinda sticky, but there is a way. You'll need three separate tools for the job:
The External Hard Disk: Indispensable. Get one that's at least 2x bigger than your current internal drive. You'll need it as an interim storage point
Winclone: This free software will allow you to image the Boot Camp volume. Since the developers closed shop, it's off to MacUpdate for a copy. Run it and clone the data to the external drive
Carbon Copy Cloner 3.4.3: Same as above, but for your OS X volume. This essentially puts a slick front-end on Disk Utility's cloning powers, but it really works well. Get it at http://www.bombich.com/
As for restoring the volumes:
Restore the Mac side first from Snow Leopard, using the created image from CCC. Let it take up the full of the new drive
Now, run Boot Camp Assistant to size up a new Windows volume. You should not need to reload Windows--that's where Winclone comes in.
Use Winclone to recover the XP side now, and if necessary, resize the volume.
If done correctly, you'll keep XP as you update to Lion on the Mac side--but you can't upgrade the drivers past 3.2.
Nate

Running Aflac software on Mac via Bootcamp or Parallels

Does anyone know if it is technically possible and acceptable to Aflac to run their proprietary software on a Mac running either Bootcamp or Parallels? If the answer is yes, has anyone had any experience with this?

Thanks for the quick reply, and yes, you are correct in that "Windows is Windows," but I am not yet familiar with Aflac's software, but understand there is a security component to their software and its corresponding network, the former, which I understand they must install on the computer at their end and then send it to you. I guess I will probably have to speak to the IT department at Aflac directly for the answer. FYI, the make you purchase a PC through them with the proprietary software, and personally, I cannot see buying a Windows laptop when I need a new Macbook Pro that can more than adequately meet all my needs, including those associated with Aflac's software. Some IT depts. & companies are just limited in their willingness to trail blaze. I would expect that Aflac might be a trail blazer here, as they are in general.

Bootcamp and Parallels - Activating windows

Hi Guys,
I know some of you run both Bootcamp and Parallels.
How do you go about activating XP for both bootcamp and parallels at the same time, have any of you seen any problems?
Cheers
Andy

This is not entirely correct. Here's the info from the MacInTouch coverage:
I'm no software licensing expert, but it appears to me, from reviewing the license for Windows Vista Home, Home Premium and Ultimate [license PDF 1] and Windows Vista Business [license PDF 2], that Vista Business and Visa Ultimate (the priciest versions) may be the only versions that can be installed in a virtual machine under, say, Parallels or VMWare's forthcoming solution. Here is the text in the Vista Home and Home Premium licenses which bans the software's use in virtual machines:
"You may not use the software installed on the licensed device within a virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware system."
A licensed device is a "physical hardware system". Use in Boot Camp would still be OK. Moreover, the licenses for Vista Business and Vista Ultimate allow use in a virtual machine but state that, if you do so, you're not allowed to use any content protected by DRM. It states:
"You may use the software installed on the licensed device within a virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware system. If you do so, you may not play or access content or use applications protected by any Microsoft digital, information or enterprise rights management technology or other Microsoft rights management services or use BitLocker. We advise against playing or accessing content or using applications protected by other digital, information or enterprise rights management technology or other rights management services or using full volume disk drive encryption."

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You may use an installed BootCamp partition with Parallels - no need to install a 2nd time.
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