Bootcamp with Tiger?
Greetings everyone, I'm currently running a 677Mhz, 1GB RAM, TiBook with Tiger on installed. I was wondering if there is any way to run Boot camp with XP Pro on my machine?
I've read that its possible by partitioning my drive and installing Leopard on one and Tiger on another and installing boot camp on the Leopard, then uninstalling Tiger and it boot camp still works?
Otherwise would it be possible just to run the beta that apple released for Tiger originally for boot camp?
Also on a different note, I would like to make my trusty Powerbook to start up and run a little faster. Would it help if I formatted and re-installed Tiger? Or is there a performance installation that only gives me the programs I need? My experiences from working with windows based machines tells me thats what I should do, but since I'm new to the whole Macintosh thing I'm coming to you guys.
Hi, Ronin. Boot Camp only runs on Intel Macs. There's no way to use it on a PowerPC Mac like your Powerbook. To run Windows XP (very, very slowly) on your machine, you'd need to use PowerPC-based PC-emulation software like Microsoft's discontinued Virtual PC.
Regarding performance improvements, go to this page and read the FAQs entitled "Maintaining OS X", "Running Mac OS X Maintenance Scripts", and "Tuning Mac OS X performance".
Reinstalling OS X is practically never necessary. I haven't done it in the three years I've been using Panther (OS X 10.3.x) 12+ hours a day. My Powerbook has run 24/7 for that whole time, restarting only as required after software updates. If you run the maintenance scripts regularly, maintain 5GB or more of free space on your hard drive at all times, repair permissions before and after each software installation that uses the Installer application, and periodically repair your hard drive directory as a preventive measure, your computer will run at optimal speed. A 667MHz machine isn't fast, as you know, but it's entirely serviceable.
If there are any applications in your Applications folder that you never use or expect to use, just drag them to the Trash and empty it. This will give you back whatever hard drive space they occupy, and is a useful step if you need to create more free space on the drive. But it won't have any effect on your computer's speed of operation unless you were woefully and dangerously short of available HD space beforehand.
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Bootcamp on tiger. what do i do? how do i start?
ok, a bit thick i know but I have a copy of windows, im running intel mac with tiger .... please help
Bootcamp beta has indeed expired for Tiger, without upgrading to 10.5 or 10.6, there is Parallels...
http://www.parallels.com/
VmWare Fusion...
http://www.vmware.com/mac
Which I think are far better options than Bootcamp anyway. -
Bootcamp on tiger in a post beta world
A few days back the public beta program for bootcamp ended and leapord (with bootcamp built in) was announced.
Starting from scratch on tiger (I do not have any previous bootcamp intalls or downloads), is there a way to run bootcamp on tiger today?
I'm motivated for such because I have just purchased a new mac, but I would rather run tiger until leapord has a revision or two under its belt.Are you sure it is expired TODAY?
This document says, "The license to use Boot Camp Beta version 1.3, 1.4 expires when Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard is released."
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303572
Leopard is going to be released on 10/26/07. It seems to me that you have 9 more days to do what you want. -
This machine is not compatible with Tiger OS X 10.4
Ok i'm trying to reformat my macbook pro
( 15 2.0ghz 2 gigs ram 80 gig hardrive, ALL UPDATES, FIRMWARE up to date.) I am not only unable to get it to boot from the DVD/install disk (I"ve tryed holding C/ reinserting the disk, turning it on holding C, booting from CD in startupdisk, holding c and my breath at the same time - pretty much everything. Obviously we've got a problem.
The disk is fine- reads fine, no scratches.
When I try to run OSX install from the DVD it says " Machine not compatible with tiger osx. Upon reading up on this **** it's acting like a firmware issue, however my firmware is up to date. I'm going on 3 hours of just trying to boot from my disk and I have to tell you all, I'm seriously thinking of just loading XP on this thing and calling it a night and an end to macs. I could have reformatted and loaded 4 computers if I were using XP. I appreciate any help, though and I know a lot of you are familiar grief and pain in here, so thanks for the help!Thanks for all the help - I have wasted countless hours of my life on a computer, but I have learned. Tiger install disks are all for different machines. When I called apple for a replacement tiger disk for my macbook pro, I found out my apple care expired last month and that it would cost $40. As much as I would like to have one - i'm probably won't buy one, I'll look for "other" ways of getting one for sure.
Word to the wise - goto an apple store - they re-install tiger for free. Took me 15 minutes and cost me $0. I don't have a few apps like Ilife, and other meaningless programs that were originally on my macbook pro, but like I told the guy at apple, give me some bad news! I am so sick of macs, I"m still trying to get bootcamp to load XP over 4 days later- the pain is neverending, but thanks for the responses everyone, it's nice to know i'm not the only one in |-|ELL....
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How to FIND BootCamp for Tiger? (own Leapord)
I have Leopard but won't install until Pro Tools and all the OS 10.5 bugs (10.5.2 supposed to be huge), fix comes out - in the mean time, any way to get a copy of bootcamp for TIGER as this is supposed to be the best way to get your mac to run the fastest with games in windows. Parallels on a Macbook Pro is a joke (regarding gaming) and is extremely choppy.
Thanks"Important: The license to use Boot Camp Beta version 1.3, 1.4 expired when Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard was released. To find out more about Boot Camp 2.0 (which is included with Leopard), see this article."
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303572
So, I doubt this kink works anymore...
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/21237 -
Time Capsule. Will it work with TIGER? Boot-Camp?
First, double edge sword, can't use tiger and boot camp.
1st. Can you use Time C with TIGER?
Also can you use TC w/Leopard and then install bootcamp and boot up with WINDOWS on TC using bootcamp?
ThanksIn answer to your question you can use some features of TC running Tiger (see link and scroll down to System Requirements). However, be aware that TM backup onto TC using Leopard will not backup a Windows partition.
http://support.apple.com/specs/airport/Time_Capsule.html -
IChat not working with Tiger user
I recently received a new Macbook with Leopard already installed on it. I have 2 friends who also own Macbooks, who I iChat with.
One of my friends received her Macbook when Leopard just came out, so she had Tiger on it previously . The other friend has had her Macbook longer, and does not have Leopard, just Tiger.
When attempting to start an iChat with the friend with Tiger, it would not work. The weird thing about it though is that it has worked a few times before, if we kept trying and I found if I restarted my computer.
However, now the friend that previously had Tiger had problems with her Macbook and received a brand new one with Leopard already on it. Now it does not work for her to start an iChat with the Tiger user, although she had no problems with her old computer.
Sorry it's confusing!
But in conclusion, it seems that iChat is not working between a Leopard and Tiger user. The confusing part is that we have gotten it to work before...so I'm really not sure what the problem is.
What can we try to get this to work all the time, without her having to upgrade to Leopard?
I usually get an error response saying there was no data received for the last 10 seconds, and she gets different things about Bandwidth, and saying she cancelled the invitation when she didn't.
Thanks
Message was edited by: netsirk1608Personally, I think it's Leopard that is at fault here. I had Tiger and my family and I would video iChat all the time. But then we downloaded Leopard. We discovered we could no longer video iChat.
My son used 4 different computers (all Macs of course), trying same network and different networks. What he discovered is that the ONLY way video iChat now works is if computers are on the same network. Well, how absurd, because the idea is to be able to video iChat with anyone, not just family members in the same household on the same network.
Apparently, somewhere, Apple (Leopard) bragged about their new improved iChat video on a network. Well, I think they forgot that not all of us are sitting in an office wanting to spend the time to iChat video with co-workers, but have friends and family in other areas we'd like to video iChat with.
So through a process of elimination, it all led back to Leopard as being the culprit, because Tiger to Tiger worked perfectly, and even Leopard to Tiger works IF you are on the same network.
I really do hope Apple supplies a FIX for this problem. I, for one, am VERY disappointed in the fact that I now have Leopard and can no longer video iChat with friends across the country. -
Can I use migration assistant from a mac with leopard to a mac with tiger?
My old mac was upgraded to leopard, (don't ask me why), and I just got a new mac with tiger, although I ordered leopard up to date. Can I use migration assistant to move stuff from the old mac with leopard to the new mac with tiger, or do I have to wait until I get the copy of leopard? Plus, if I move files over now- like through email and/or network connection, and then when I get leopard and archive and install, what happens to my files?
That is correct. You'll need either an ethernet cable or a firwire cable and a firewire to thunderbolt adapter to connect the two macs together. Here's info on Migration/Setup assistant
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4889?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US -
Hi,
I am having a few problems with bootcamp on my imac. When i tried to move the bootcamp partition on windows 7 into free space, it crashed and turned off. Ever since i have had the error 'Missing operating system' and it fails to boot. I have some very important files on the bootcamp partition. Is it possible to recover these files or even to restore the bootcamp partition to it's original state? I do not have a backup of my bootcamp partition. Another problem i have is that ever since i tried to expand my macintosh HD partition into free space, when i hold alt while booting up (to choose which partition to boot like i normally do), the bootcamp partition has stopped appearing. This means that i cannot even boot the windows 7 bootcamp partition anymore!
So basically here are my 2 questions:
How can i restore/recover files from Bootcamp with Boot Failure - Missing operating system error?
How can i make the Bootcamp partition appear in Startup Disk and when i hold the option key while starting up my computer to allow me to boot windows 7?
Any solutions are very much apreciated!
Thanks!
I know that bootcamp (disk0s4) hasn't been fully deleted since it appears in disk utility (i cant do anything to it though)
And here is the error i see when i try to launch bootcamp (back when i was actually able to boot up bootcamp to the error screen)WinClone 3 is OS X and saves Windows image it makes for restore - that should work but you will have to try and you would need to make a new image unless it also works with a native Windows system restore image. It is now supported and has come a long way.
http://www.twocanoes.com/
Paragon Clone OS works and does disk-to-disk clone just like CCC you end up with two bootable drives. But does not work with your setup. It would let you clone and move your Windows install to an SSD or another disk drive though and be bootable.
During its clone process it checks for errors which is very helpful and lets you know - something CCC and others should adopt more of.
http://www.paragon-software.com/downloads/demo.html
I wish for our/my sake you had re-read and rewritten the long 'story' and broken it into a brief list of facts we needed.
OS X
Windows
Backup (though external is much safer) and you want bootable OS X clones as well as TimeMachine
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT1427
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT1553
There are a number of things to do like chkdsk and others as well as Windows DVD to do automatic system repairs and find out why.
AppleHFS - the abilty to mount and read HFS volumes can be notorious.
I would rearrange and redo your storage setup and how you use the 4-5 internal hard drive bays. -
Mac wont start after using bootcamp with a cd to install win 8
recently i tried to install windows 8 on my mac installed 10.9 mavericks ... i used bootcamp with a dvd to do the same .... first after partioning the disk the mac restarted and a balck screen appeared with an error NO BOOTABLE DEVICE and then ejecting my disk ...so i restarted again and pressed the option button during the restart .... now on this screen i see too option 1) macintosh hd 2) recovery 10.9.1 ... if i select macintosh hd ... the mac freezes n can only move the mouse but nothing happens ahead ... on selecting recovery ... i get dialogue box stating THE OS X INSTALLATION COULDN'T BE COMPLETED ... and there are four options 1)shut down 2)restart 3)save log 4) view log ... but unfortunately when this dialogue box appears just after that before i select any option immediately a grey screen appears and the mac shuts down
i tried to search on google and couldnt find anything related ... please help as i cant use my mac at all21'' | quad core i5 2.5 GHz bought a year back | it has its own dvd player ... the dvd was made by myself using the Windows7-USB-DVD-tool (works for windows 8 too) and iso was downloaded from some tech site
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Install OS 9 on PowerBook G4 with Tiger
I have a 2003 17" PowerBook G4 with Tiger installed on it. I need to have Classic on it. The original PowerBook restore disk will not install OS 9 or anything else because, it says, the operating system on the computer is newer than the restore disk's. I want to just install OS 9 so that I can have Classic, but have not found a way to do this. The PB G4 is not OS 9-bootable. Any ideas?
On the PB G4 Restore Disk there is an installer for additional software and classic support. However, it doesn't work. When I run it, it goes for a minute, then opens a window requesting I insert the disk with a matching design on it. What it's requesting is the same CD that's already in there, but since it doesn't know it's there, I eject it and re-insert it. Still it does nothing. The only option is to Quit. There is nothing from the regular OS X installation to install Classic.
So, is my only option to use the Restore disk on a Firewire drive, install OS X and Classic on it, then copy it over to my regular boot drive?
Thanks for your help. -
Please could somebody help me I have an iMac which came with Tiger 10.4.10 installed I have lost my disks and I need to re-install after a hard drive failure. Where can I find this? I will upgrade to Snow Leopard after but I cannot go straight to SL
You can go strait to SL, all you need is a retail SL DVD available from Apple for $20. The US online store has them at:
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573Z/A/mac-os-x-106-snow-leopard -
Hi, I want to downgrade from OSX LEOPARD to OSX TIGER but I have a few questions regarding this. My iMac is originally from Sep 2007 it came preloaded with tiger. I have original install (2) tiger discs version 10.4.10. I want to know if it is safe and what are the necessary steps to do so. Also by downgrading im wondering if a lot of apps nowadays support tiger for example I have photoshop version 5 and 4 these are very important to me. One last question does anyone know of any reliable virus protection for mac that doesnt slow down your computer? because I have read that a lot of them do so. If anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate it! Here are the specs for my iMac
Model Name:
iMac
Model Identifier:
iMac7,1
Processor Name:
Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed:
2 GHz
Number Of Processors:
1
Total Number Of Cores:
2
L2 Cache:
4 MB
Memory:
2 GB
Bus Speed:
800 MHzMost of the time a perception of general slow performance is the result of installing third party junk alleged to speed up, "clean" or "optimize" your Mac, or to look for viruses that don't exist. Ideally you would know what you installed so you can uninstall it, but if you don't know or aren't sure there are techniques such as Safe Mode and creating a temporary user account to confirm that suspicion.
If you open Activity Monitor it may show a process, or processes, that occupy a lot of your system's time.
Slowness confined solely to web browser activity is often the result of an inexorable progress toward websites that demand ever more processor-intensive tasks. If your slow performance is strictly limited to web browsing, you might try disabling Flash by either uninstalling it, or use utilities such as ClickToFlash that allow you to control what Flash content gets loaded. Flash in itself is not inherently evil, but there is nothing to stop websites or the advertisers who pay for them from writing horrible Flash code that can do everything from hogging 100% of your CPU's time to causing random crashes. You can watch Activity Monitor as in the above to correlate these troublesome web pages with performance degradation.
You are correct; if your computer shipped with Tiger you may certainly revert to it. I forgot that Tiger was shipping on new Macs as recently as five years ago. To downgrade it would be necessary to completely erase your hard disk and boot with the Tiger installation DVD, followed by installing it anew. Such drastic measures are not necessary and you are unlikely to be satisfied with the results anyway.
Assuming your system is free of third party parasitic junk attached to OS X in an ill-conceived attempt to improve upon it, that your hard disk drive is sound and the boot volume has enough free space to work with, by far the best performance-enhancing improvement would be to add more memory. Buy as much as your computer can use and that you can afford. 2 GB is not that much any more.
Read the following for some recommended troubleshooting techniques from Apple:
General purpose Mac troubleshooting guide: Isolating issues in Mac OS X
Creating a temporary user to isolate user-specific problems: Isolating an issue by using another user account
Memory limitations: Using Activity Monitor to read System Memory and determine how much RAM is being used
Identifying resource hogs and other tips: Runaway applications can shorten battery runtime
Starting the computer in "safe mode": Mac OS X: What is Safe Boot, Safe Mode? -
Mac Pro Running Windows XP in Bootcamp with AIM 6.5 Can't Connect to iChat
I'm running Windows XP on my Mac Pro under Bootcamp. The Windows firewall is turned off (I'm running McAfee, and using it's firewall).
I am trying to talk to a friend who is using iChat on a Mac - I am using AIM 6.5 on my Mac running Windows. The connection fails as soon as iChat attempts to answer.
Mac OS 10.4.10
Bootcamp 1.4 (beta)
Windows XP
McAfee 7.2
iChat 3.1.8
Airport Express
I have set up McAfee to allow TCP and UDP connections over ports 2869 (TCP) and 1900 (UDP).
I have also disabled McAfee, and tried to use the Windows firewall settings discussed frequently in this forum (with appropriate exceptions). This also fails.
I have also tried to doing this under my Mac OS X bootup running PARALLELS. This worked once, but I have not been able to repeat it (McAfee was running when it worked).
iChat works great on my Mac under OS X. This is only a problem in Windows XP under Bootcamp.
I cannot connect to appleu3test01 either (under Bootcamp with XP). I can connect to appleu3test01 no problem running iChat on my Mac.
Might this be a Bootcamp related problem? Can anyone else test this for me (i.e. can someone try to use AIM 6.5 from Windows XP under Bootcamp)???
Thanks!Hi Ralph,
{quote}If the Firewall was On I would ask if you had set it up as an Exception
http://www.ralphjohnsuk.dsl.pipex.com/page12.html#_Service{quote}
Yes, this is what I meant by,
{quote}I have also disabled McAfee, and tried to use the Windows firewall settings discussed frequently in this forum (with appropriate exceptions). This also fails.{quote}
I've noticed that you've posted solutions frequently in this forum. I read your posts, and visited your website. Its great information ... thanks for posting it! However, it didn't help me to resolve this particular problem.
You asked,
{quote}The question now becomes have you allowed it through McAfee ?{quote}
I tried resolving the problem with McAfee "ON" and "OFF". When it was "OFF" I Set the Windows firewall up per your instructions. Unfortunately, it didn't help. And yes, this includes setting up the "exceptions."
I don't think the problem is with McAfee.
You stated,
{quote}Having said that and seeing you have tried combos around this issue I would have to point out the AIM site says AIM 6.5 will only Video with other AIM applications. It has been reported here though that it does work with iChat{quote}
Yes, I have read that AIM 6.5 will communicate with iChat on several forums. Lots of people appear to have this working. I wish to use iChat on my Mac to communicate with friends running Windows XP (or Vista) using AIM 6.5. I like iChat.
Finally, you asked,
{quote}Next I would have to ask if the modem or router is allowing the AIM application ?{quote}
This is a very good question. I have not been able to test this. I couldn't find an AIM "test" address to use (like Apple's appleu3test01). Any suggestions?
Thanks for your help Ralph. This configuration is a little bit unusual, but it should work. I think the problem might be with the AIM configuration as you've suggested. I will continue to troubleshoot and report any findings here. -
A G4 running/booting off a lacie with TIGER 10.4.7
i have amongst many G5's , a G3 pismo and a G4 400MHZ desktop that i wish to have boot off of and run as if Tiger was their OS.
The pismo cant run tiger itself i think but could it boot off of TIGER if that was on an external 7200 firewire HD?
could the G4 run off of the Ext fw HD with TIger on it.
in other words the FW LACIE would run OS 10.4.7 from the PISMO and G4.
this way couldnt i run photoshop CS2, GB2 on these other computers??
thanksHi, Glenn.
The "PowerBook G3 (FireWire)" — aka "Pismo" — is compatible with Tiger. See "Mac OS X System Requirements."
Certain older Macs cannot boot from an external FireWire drive, as specified in "FireWire Booting: What Computers Support It and How To."
• The Pismo should boot from a FireWire Drive.
• The G4 may: the G4 will not if it is a "Power Mac G4 (PCI Graphics)" model. To see if the G4 is that model, consult "Power Mac G4 Models" for models introduced before July 2001.
Good luck!
Dr. Smoke
Author: Troubleshooting Mac® OS X
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