Booting from USB 3 on a Mac Pro 2010

Two issues: I've been looking for a USB 3 Card for Mac pro without much luck. Therefore, any suggestions for a good, reliable card would be much appreciated. One piece of information I came across is that apparently USB 3 does not support booting from an external drive(Clone), but not sure if this pertains to a MacPro 2010. Can anyone verify this information? I assume eSATA does support an external bootable drive, but I may be wrong on that. Again, any info would be appreciated.
Thank you,
Gary

I have the CalDigit USB3/eSATA card in my 2010 Mac Pro. It works well; however, drives attached to it are no more immune than any other external drives to the Improper Disk Ejection bug that occurs with Mountain Lion, Mavericks and Yosemite in the process of sleeping/waking from sleep. Apple is apparently never going to fix this. In Snow Leopard, any drive attached to the CalDigit card behaves perfectly. I have never tried booting from the eSATA interface.
BTW there is a CalDigit FASTA-6GU3 USB3 eSATA card on eBay right now:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/201264131915?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STR K%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I didn't see any mention of which card it is. The first version works with OS 10.5 and newer; the second-generation card requires 10.8.2 or newer.
I have experimented with the Mountain utility on my Yosemite test drive, and with Mountain running, the improper ejection problem has so far not occurred. But I spend little time in Yosemite, so I am not 100% positive that Mountain has solved the problem.

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