Bootproblems with MSI K8N-2

HI!
Recentliy bought a MSI K8N-2 with a A64 s939 3500+, Corsair XMS Twinx1024XL, a Sapphire X800 pro and the PSU is a Levicom 350XB-P.
To my problem:
The thing is that I can´t make the system boot at all. Fan, harddrives and fan on graficcard works. The D-braket shows that the CPU is damaged. So I sent all back to custom support where I bought the whole thing and their tests showed that the mobo was erroneous. I received a new one, put it all together again and the same problem shows up.
Does any of you out there have any idea of what the problem might be?
looking for help...
Teton

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Originally posted by Teton
Yes I´ve tried to disconnet about everything that seems irrelevant at boot, but the problem remains. One curious thing happened after I pushed the button and is that the system will start automatically without having to push the start button on the chasis. i have unplugged the powerswitch, rebootswitch all the led contacts and the system start right away, wierd huh?
Teto
Hi Teton , did you buy your board from komplett by any chance =) I did too, pretty much the same spec as you as well. I think kompletts batch of mobos must have been pretty bad because mine had all sorts of problems as well.
Anyway here are some things to try. 1) Reset your bios with the jumper.
2) take out any Ps2 peripherals and use USB ones. 3) put your ram in dimm 1 and 2 , SATA in 3 or 4. 4) as has been noted here you need atleast 22A on your 12V line even with not many peripherals a hungry gfx card amd64 and all the inbuilt features seems to be quite hungry on ström. 5) take your mobo and run it outside of the case incase you are shorting out on something 6) remove the USB and firewire front pannel headers sometimes they can cause problems (just in the interests of debugging). 7) ensure that your CPU is properly mounted and clamped.
8) Run with just 1 DIMM to start with 9) ensure that no connectors are in the wrong way around (the MSI manual shows some of the headers upside down so this is an
easy mistake to make!!!).
Try those things and get back to us and let us know..
ha det bra

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Hi , yes unfortunately it's true !
Sata ports 3/4 is the fully nforce3 native chipset integrated (uses nvidia integrated PHY).
Use only theese if overclocking .
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Sata ports 1/2 are bridged from the nvidia chipset to an external marvell PHY .
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did i miss it or have you not mentioned that since your ram is 166MHZ you have changed the memory divider to 166 in BIOS?
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To Paul:
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bhanja_trinanjan,
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Quote from: rogueUK on 31-July-06, 16:55:42
insego please use the SEARCH BUTTON
I did use the search function to find other people with similar problems. The reason I started a topic of my own was because of the text you get while joining:
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Do not hijack another persons topic. If you have a similar problem, start your own thread anyway.
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MSI Reminds You...
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I have to lower my timings a bit to run them at 500mhz.Not much though,but I don't know what the long term prospect is for my memory if I maintain that for long periods of time.
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