Borderless printing, Aperture=Fail?

Howdy!
The short of it- Nothing I shoot (Canon EOS 7D), regardless of the settings I choose in Aperture, will print borderless.
I can import an image to the Desktop, pull it into iPhoto and print borderless 13x19 prints without a 2nd thought.
I drop the same file into Adobe's software (supplied with the Pixma Pro 9500 MKII), order up a borderless print and "voila!", a borderless print spits out.
I import the very same file into Aperture 3.1.3, request a borderless print- And get 1/4 inch borders.
This ought not be rocket science. The latest Canon drivers (as of 7Oct2011, date this was posted) are installed, proper paper size is selected, margins are, across the board, set to 0.00" and Border:None chosen from the Page Layout dialog.
I'll ask about Apertures (numerous! numerous!) crashes later, but this is my current frustration.
Bone stock iMac i5, 4GB Apple installed RAM, 500GB free space, freshly initialized drive, 10.7.1, all Software Updates (as of 7Oct2011, date this was posted) installed, and no other software not included with the Mac.
Is borderless printing, regardless of Aperture's dialog boxes, impossible?
Thanks!

Glen,
There are two things called 'Boarders' when it comes to printing in Aperture.
There is a boarder that Aperture can place around an image. that is set in the Aperture print dialog here:
Then there is the boarder the printer places around an image. That can be set in a few places depending on your setup.
First in Aperture when you slect the paper size:
Your menu options most likely will be different but you should have something similar to allow you to select a borderless printout.
Finally in the printer dialog itself (which you get after selecting print in the Aperture dialog)
Here:
And here
Again your printer menu options might be dfferent depending n your printer and driver.
good luck

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