Borderless Printing (Full Bleed) Aperture 2

I noticed a forum post about printing borderless and still having a border. There is a simple way to correct this problem. In the last post I read (http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1398862&tstart=1799) the only thing that was missing was setting the borderless option to "max". To do this, click "print settings" then choose "borderless printing" from the drop down menu and make sure the setting is set to "max". The default setting is set to the third line from the left. Crank that thing all the way up to "max" and print away, your will achieve your borderless print you so desired.
I hope this helps. I own a Canon Pixma Pro 9000, the original post was regarding a Canon Pixma Pro 9500.

I seem to have solved my own question after considerable effort. Although HP denies it, there seems to be some conflict between the drivers for the B9180 and my L7580 on the Leopard HD. I manually uninstalled all references to HP per HP's instructions (available on their site) downloaded and installed the latest software and a small update patch. Although I lost the L7580 connection, this was a small loss to gain complete control of the B9180. Now the images are exact to the monitor in both LR and AP2. I use both Ilford's Smooth Glossy (with the Ilford ICC profile installed) and HP's Advanced Glossy paper. I use Ilford paper for my B&W output as a personal preference while HP's paper seems to produce better color results (at least to my liking). After nearly a month of testing and comparing LR and AP2, I have settled my mind on AP2 being just a little more flexible and certainly quicker than LR.

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Howdy!
The short of it- Nothing I shoot (Canon EOS 7D), regardless of the settings I choose in Aperture, will print borderless.
I can import an image to the Desktop, pull it into iPhoto and print borderless 13x19 prints without a 2nd thought.
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Glen,
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Then there is the boarder the printer places around an image. That can be set in a few places depending on your setup.
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Here:
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Hello Frando,
Since no one seems to jumping at your posting I thought I'd have a go.
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