Boris Rendering

I have a 10-sec Boris early in a short video composed of still pictures. It is on V2 over a still on V1. It behaves normally when viewed. If I do anything to it, though, it requires rendering. Anything includes something as benign and innocuous as making a mark on the opacity line with the pen tool. Simply putting Safari as the active window to write this topic makes Boris require rendering after flashing the "preparing video" sign. What to do? Backstory--I had severe and goofy problems with sounds in FCE and strange behaviors in iDVD. iDVD was reinstalled. Problems remained. Apple put in a new logic board and speakers. (Thank God for Apple Care!). FCE uninstalled and reinstalled after trashing Prefs and Repair Permissions.

Any changes to Boris titles (especially animation) will almost always require rendering. There's not much you can do about that, except grit your teeth and wait it out.

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Boris FX 3-D fuzzy after rendering

Why are my titles fuzzy after I render? They look crisp and clear then rendering makes them look awful...I am using FCE1.0 and waiting for the upgrade.
is it the nature of beast?

Hi(Bonjour)!
See those links about titling in video/DV:
http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/perfect_titlesphil.html
http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/motion_text_in_fcpspencer.html
http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/basic_photoshopfiles.html
http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/basic_ps_stills_tofcp.html
http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/basicps.html
http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/livetypefundamentals.html
http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/basic_textgenerators.html
http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/basic_credit_rollstc.html
Michel Boissonneault

What's wrong with Boris 3D Text Generator.....

I've tried to use this tool but the clunky interface and 10 second delay while you open this up in it's own window drives me crazy. But I am trying again to use Boris 3D for subtitles.
However, I just compared the text to FCP's text generator and Boris seems much softer and not nearly as crisp as FCP Text. The concern is that I have to render the FCP text - maybe this accounts for the difference? Boris does not give me a red line. So it's a dilemma - which to use? It's a pain to have to render subtitles - but Boris has that awful delay to deal with and just does not seem as crisp - any one any thoughts on this?

Not sure why you're getting no Real Time playback on the FCP text filter (red render bar) Regardless, even though the Boris titles will play back RT they ultimately need to be rendered as well (green render bar) and will likely look crisper once you do. Boris Title 3D should give you the best results. You could also try Live Type.
rh

Titles created in Boris title crawl disappear after render

I build a title roll in Boris Title Crawl for a weekly TV show that I edit in HDV 1080i60 (that is how I get the footage) that airs on Dish Network and DirecTV. I build the end credits in Boris Title Crawl using the "Roll" animation style. The roll will appear in the perfect position on the screen. However, sometimes over time and subsequent rendering, the titles will disappear completely from the screen, and I believe they are being positioned far off to the side outside of the viewable area. The wireframe for the roll remains in the correct position, it just appears empty. If I re-open Boris Title Crawl and then click "apply" again, the mispositioning is corrected, at least for a while. If I try to export using quicktime conversion to another format (Quicktime Movie with H.264 compression), the roll might disappear again, and the movie will export without the roll. This has only been happening since upgrading to FCP 7, I don't recall it every happening with FCP 6. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

I don't use Boris regularly, but when I have, I never encountered this, and I doubt it's related to upgrading to 7. If I understand correctly what you're describing, the changes could be caused by any number of things – like whatever cutting took place on your TL "over time and subsequent rendering" causing re-renders.
How many v tracks do you have and is the crawl on a separate track? Consider exporting the credits clip as a QT movie and reimport it.
And somewhat off topic, typically I get better (and far more predictable) results by exporting my sequence as a QTMovie (current settings) and do all encoding (e.g., H.264) in Compressor.
Good luck.
Russ

Boris Title - Missing Text After Render

All apologies if this is an ages old bug that everyone worked to fix years ago. I was a daily editor from FCP 1.0 until 2004 or so when a project caused me to walk away from cuts and edits and crashes all together. Like a masochist, I've jumped back in, but without the prior security that came with daily readings of all the proper forums. I've tried to do my due diligence (5 hours here, 2-pop, Cow, etc) but to no avail. So....
FCP 4.5/OS X 10.4.9
Previews of text when using Boris Title Crawl to create a crawl look fine, but after rendering, the beginning and end of each text string, no matter how long, are missing.
So the above sentence would read:
ext when using Boris Title Crawl to create a crawl look fine, but after rendering, the beginning and end of each text string a
Scrolls are no problem. Only a problem with crawls.
Again. Sorry if this has already been settled and I'm just overlooking the thread.
Dual 1.42 GHz G4 Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Welcome (back) to the forum.
Have you tried...
Deleting all renders in Render Manager, then re-rendering?
using the crawl in a different sequence or project?
trashing preferences?
I'm unable to duplicate the behavior. Seems to work fine here, with that sentence.
How are you previewing?
Do you have improperly set 'Margins' in the 'page' tab of Boris...or any crops set in 'Motion' tab of FCP?
Post back,
K
EDIT - BTW, FCP4.5 works best with OS 10.3.9/QT6.5.2

Boris 3D titles disappear when more than one font/size used

I've had a LOT of two-line supers created in Boris 3D (the first and second line are either different fonts or two different sizes of the same font) go invisible without any reasonable explanation.
This has happened on 3 or 4 different Macs of various configurations, running both FCP6/Leopard and FCP7/Snow Leopard. It's not limited to just one typeface (which is what I thought at first)... it even happens with Mac basic system fonts.
What happens is: I or another editor will create the supers...everything appears fine. They render fine. But if the project moves from one edit suite to another (running the same version of FCP), any unrendered supers become invisible. Clips are on the timeline, but will not display on-screen. Even retyping or re-rendering them doesn't make them visible... the only way to get them back is to completely re-make the super from scratch. Ironically, I can use exactly the same fonts, and it will work if I start over from scratch.
Beyond that, if I double-click on any rendered super, the second line will disappear from the Boris plug-in text window, and the super will go unrendered and will disappear.
Copying and pasting a rendered super into a new location on the timeline also won't work.
We've now had three or four feature-length documentaries over the last 18 months where EVERY super in the entire show has required retyping from scratch, at major cost and expense.
Since the problem has occurred in several edit suites, I'm assuming this is not a problem unique to our projects.
Anyone?

Maybe this will help:
There is an update available for the Boris Calligraphy package that comes bundled with FCP6/7 that addressed a bunch of font/crashing issues with Boris Title 3D.
Info from Boris:
!http://www.spotsbeforeyoureyes.com/Boris.jpg!
Go to
http://www.borisfx.com/updates/
and down load the update for Calligraphy.

Pixel edges in Boris Title 3D

I get pixelation of the edges of everything I make in Boris 3D. They are in exports via quicktime movie or conversion. Also getting lockups occasionally when using Boris 3D and have to Force Quit FCE.
1) Am I right that using default titles in Boris 3D I should not see pixels at edges of letters?
2) I have spent a few hours trying many combinations of settings for FCE and rendering and have not made progress on this. Could someone please suggest a troubleshooting approach or let me know the 'magic' setting that is doing this?
Thanks
Den

Concern about my QT installation. Menu says 'quicktime player'. I have purchased and entered serial number and it will record and export audio and video.
In the player with the View set to full size, the larger green type is pixelated around the edges. The smaller yellow type looks good but is not vector. (my qt says view not canvas)
original from camera is 1440x1080 hd @ 7MB per second. Item properties in FCE timeline shows 1440x1080.
In both 4:3 and 640x360 compressions from QT the green type looks the same - pixalated at edges.
Data rate last linked movie is 9.32 mbits/sec.
Downloaded and ran through JS Deinterlacer and pixel problem was noticably worse
Where exactly is movie properties - I don't seem to have it. I did delete qt and reinstall this AM but nothing changed. Here is a link where you can look at a PDF that shows my menu options available and confirms that this is qt Pro. This menu is different than yours? http://www.screencast.com/t/GCssTaoW
Thanks for your ongoing help!

Getting Smooth Text with Boris Title Crawl (Scroll)

Hi, using FCP 5 (Studio) with Boris Title Crawl generator.
It seems to work pretty well, does what it should, renders relatively fast, all that. The only problem is the upward scrolling motion is a little jumpy. Just wondering what things I should be tweaking or some general strategy for getting a smooth text scroll.
The timeline is 10-Bit uncompressed NTSC so there aren't DV text issues here (or so I'd think). I'm trying different fonts, bold and sans-serif. It looks OK, but not broadcast (DVD actually) ready.
Thanks everybody, much appreciated.
Jason

Thanks Jim, makes sense.
To adjust speed, do you mean basically slightly change the length of the clip? I don't see any other place to alter that.
Thanks,
Jason

Applying Boris Title Crawl

Hello,
I'm having a heck of a time getting the scrolling title/credits, that I finally figured out to do in Boris, but am missing a step that's not putting it into the timeline. To start, I clicked on the title icon in the lower right-hand side of the viewer, the chose Boris, Title Crawl, then typed up all my credits. Then it took me to the Controls tab, and then from there, I'm just not getting what's next. Like w/'regular' titles, afterwards, I clicked on the Video Tab, but, nothing was showing up. I also dragged in the blank empty 'box' from the Video Tab, and on the timeline, it is labeled as 'Title Crawl', but again, nothing. Can someone please help, and let me know the step I'm missing? Thank you!

Hey there,
That's what I thought, that when I set everything up, animation/roll, and switch to my video tab in the Viewer - there's nothing there, even when I scrub back and forth bewteen my in and my outpoint, I do not see my text scrolling up and down. I dragged it into my timeline, scrolled through it, but didn't render it - could that be the issue? I didn't render 'cause I didn't see anything there TO render. And, I thought I would have seen it in the Viewer window. Maybe I'll try rendering, and see what happens...
I did originally try it in the FCP scrolling text generator, and yes, all of the scrolling text is there. But the reason I want to put it into Boris is because it's still 'wavy', despite putting on a de-interlacer, and fixing the whiteness, etc...
I haven't tried the Boris Title 3D tool - only Crawl. Thanks!

Problem in rendering videos direct linked to speed grade.

hi
i'm revanth,i'm facing a problem that all the videos which are direct link to speed grade are not rendering in AME..

Revanth ...
Would love to help you. Are you still having this problem, and if so ... I need some info.
OS/CPU/RAM/GPU/vRAM & specifics on version for the OS and drivers for the GPU. For example, mine looks like this, because knowing it is useful when I need to ask for help, I created a text file on my desktop to simply copy it ...
-Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601, Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, 3501 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s); Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 16.0 GB.
-EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 w/4Gb vRAM; Driver Version 347.25
-System: 2-disc SSD RAID; Cache Files: Internal SSD; Media Files: 2TB Internal HD; Project Files: 2TB Internal HD; Export Files: 2TB Internal HD
Anyone with some knowledge of the Adobe Digital Video Apps (DVA's) can look at that and immediately note a few areas that might allow problems but rule out many others. Speeds the whole puzzling process along.
Next ... workflow. Is working in Sg a new-ish thing for you or do you have some pro experience at it? I don't want to bore/insult you nor talk over your head. What's the footage of the project (camera/codec info), and what hefty things may have been applied in PrPro, After Effects, or Sg such as noise control, warp-stabilizer, tracked key-frame masks, multiple LUT's/Looks, that sort of thing.
And ... I take it if you export a non-Sg processed video it works as expected through AME? So it's only IF you take a PrPro project through a round-trip to Sg that AME refuses to export?
Next ... a screen grab of the AME settings you're using would be excellent ...
Neil

JUST PROBLEMS rendering and quality issues

Hey, all.
I've been posting here a few months and recently got a mac and fcp. I've been editing for over ten years on velocity and avid. Had great luck at figuring stuff out with manuals and the threads and freinds. But I'm at a total loss trying to figure out how to squeeze a decent title out of FCP. I've gone through the manuals, checked the settings, tried many workarounds and options, and I still get the jagged, shimmery text, especially on moves. I'm not doing anything special -- just a lame title. These titles look amatuerish -- quite frankly the kind of work I thought the amatuers were doing on FCP all the years I avoided it along with premeire -- wedding video crap systems. Okay, fcp and premeire have come a long way. AND I WANT TO LOVE THIS THING! BUT man, why is it so crazy just to get a right combo of settings to churn out a stupid title? Rendering makes things look worse. I've done everything! If someone is in Orange County/Anaheim and can drop by, I'll pay you! Seriously, this is terrible.
It seems like anybody struggling with this jagged title stuff on these posts never really solves anyting except for getting slightly better results and just plainly settling for less. I know I must be doing something wrong, but what???
Sorry about the rant. call me 714 280-8201
-C

Thanks for responding: Right now I'm using after effects. It's a little better. Ever since I've started on a mac I've had this issue. Yes, PC background.
Anyway, I've tried many approaches, Titler, motion, png alpha files with motion moves, boris titler -- all with low quality results. Everything is played back on a monitor, one via component, the other via sdi.
my timeline is dvcpro50, all the settings I know about are set to best. Fields set to none. I forgot all the other stuff I looked at, checked and tried. I think there's a fundamental thing I don't understand about rendering. The sequence rendering drop down menu has about 30 options, that are just foreign to me. I better spend more time with the manual. But I'm selecting render all with all the options checked for rendering. I get a grey bar over the timeline suggesting to me that everything is rendered. It's got to be user error combined with a really convolutive way to set up projects and workflow by fcp.
thanks, chase

CPU and operating temps when rendering in FInal Cut

I had some issues in Final Cut today, and had to start a project over. I noticed render times seem to have gotten slower. I don't think it's just me, I remember my computer rendering clips much faster than it did after the crash. I also noticed the fans constantly blowing at full bore when rendering. I decided to monitor temperatures during the rendering process. The CPU temperature immediately starts to climb. It averages between 85-89 degrees Celsius during the rendering process. Is this normal for it to get this hot during rendering? I have read many different things.

I'm using FCP 7. It seems like my CPU has been running warm overall at times. I hope things are alright with it.

Final Cut Pro rendering incorrectly

Is anyone having problems with Final Cut Pro rendering stills incorrectly? I am running FCP 6.01 on a dual 3 Ghz Dual-Core Intel Xeon with 8 GB of RAM.
I am encountering shots that have freeze frames of images that are found in the timeline at earlier intervals. I have also encountered timelines that appear to be rendered correctly but during layoff some graphics appear where others should. At the moment I am using the 8-bit Uncompressed codec in SD. I seem to get more errors when using the ProRes codec.

From my experience, renders get corrupted very often in FCP 6.0.1
In a 1080p 23.98 project, the most frequent problems I had with renders was:
- titles (with Boris 3D) rendered but not appearing on playback
- slow motions freezing
It's very strange because before to output, everything's fine. But then FCP "renders video" after asking it to do a assemble, and the output is not correct. I think it's in this time of additional render that the effects get corrupted.

My FCP titles are fuzzy, even after rendering.

Creating some simple titles in FCP. They are fuzzy and look unrendered. I've tried rendering them every way I can. They don't show as needing rendering.
How can I get these titles to render and appear normal (i.e. not fuzzy)?
These are simple text titles, not a crawl or anything like that.

Try using boris title3d. You need to understand the difference between vector and bitmapped graphics. Boris title3d allows you to work with "vector" text which will create the text for each frame at high resolution as long as you use the control tab to reposition and resize.
It's much more flexible than the text generator.

Rendered text looks low res

I've read every post I could find about this and gleaned some insight, but still need a more definitive answer than I've come across. I created title cards using the 2D FCE program, as the boris Calligraphy program seemed too complcated for what I need to do and I'm running out of time.
Problem is, the text looks fine until I render it. Render User Settings are 100% for Frame Rate and Resolution. Filters, Frame blending and Motion Blur are all checkmarked. I've tried various combinations of those uncheckmarked. No improvement.
The fonts are Gill Sans plain 27 pt. and Geneva bold italic 24 pt., but it doesn't matter what the fonts are, or the point size, or whether it's the graphic bar I created from a rectangular shape... They all look degraded after render, like a low res approximation for playback. The type, however big or bold gets suddenly darker, and less cleanly defined and the graphic bar actually shortens slightly. Is that in fact what it is, just a low res way of playing back, so I shouldn't worry about how it looks here? However, a fairly knowledgable friend says the image shouldn't look degraded after render. Ultimately going to DVD. Please straighten me out here. Much thanks.

The material is being rendered into an interlaced
digital format for display on an interlaced analog
monitor. It's not intended for display on a computer
screen. The Canvas is for monitoring purposes only.
If you really want to see how it looks set the Canvas
to 100% view. That's the true interlaced image as it
will appear. Of course you can't see this properly on
a computer screen especially if the material has
motion or is animated.
Thanks, Tom, for the explanation and your patience. All is clear except that you suggest that if I really want to see what it looks like, to set the canvas to 100%... that that's the true interlaced image as it will appear. I must be misunderstanding, but when I set the view to 100%, I get an enlarged, TV Safe sort of view, but the resolution looks the same (de-interlaced) as always after the render. Basically what I'm asking is whether the eventual video will look like (with, of course, the normal degradation of NTSC) what I created on 2D text or graphics BEFORE I rendered it.
I tried to check it on a monitor, but when I plugged Video Out from my G4 to the monitor, I got a nice image of the FCE interface on TV, rather than a screenfilling view of the selected sequence. What am I doing wrong here?
Thank you again. I don't know how you put up with these kind of questions, but I deeply appreciate it. Restores my faith in mankind.
- Frazzled in SF

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