Both Pop AND IMAP Gmail accounts in Mail?

OK this is bugging me. Suddenly I noticed several email duplicates from my only Gmail account, that I check on my Mac in Mail. When checking accounts in Preferences, I see now TWO Gmail accounts enabled, one POP, another IMAP. I can't remember which one is the older one that I've been using for years. I guess it's the IMAP account, since I've been keeping copies of my emails in my Mac and my Gmail "all mail" folder online.
I think it happened when Safari 5.1 asked to syncronize and/or use "x" automatically with iChat, Mail, Calendar, etc., and added the POP. My question is, which one of those accounts is safe to delete or disable in Mail? Can it be done just like that? In the Gmail settings I see both POP and IMAP are enabled. Should I just disable POP and voilá?
Thanks.
rolando

As you may have learnt by now POP downloads the mail to your computer and depending on your settings may also delete from server. So the mail on your computer is the only copy you have. IMAP accounts can be deleted and added later but POP are not that simple.
I suggest turn off POP, use IMAP, continue using IMAP for a while and then delete POP.
There are excellent guides in the discussions here, just search for 'switching from POP to IMAP'

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