BOUNCING JUNK MAIL AUTOMATICALLY?...

I know that Mail has a junk filter...but is there a way of setting it up to bounce the mails back automatically? If so, how? I spent so much time having to do it manually.
Cheers
M

Since most spammers don't use a valid sending or return email address, using the bounce feature with spam or junk mail is a complete waste of time since all you get for your efforts is a return email error message indicating the bounced message was not deliverable.
Some spammers insert/use a valid email address to appear as the sending email address for their garbage acquired from their "known good" email address list so using the bounce feature works when spammers do so but you are directing the bounce to some unsuspecting person whose email address was wrongly used and not at the spammer who actually sent the message.
Check this link which applies to any email account.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86684
And this link which applies to any email client such as the Mail.app.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107401

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Hello , i am using james 2.2.0 installed on a server with a online DNS , it recives mails properly , but when i try to send emails ( also when using Authenticated SMTP) , mail go to junk mails ( as hotmail and yahoo) , When i use Outlook express outside the server to send mail i get the following error :
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here is my config.xml , Thanks
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<!ENTITY listserverConfig SYSTEM "../conf/james-listmanager.xml">
<!ENTITY listserverStores SYSTEM "../conf/james-liststores.xml">
<!ENTITY fetchmailConfig SYSTEM "../conf/james-fetchmail.xml">
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hi
you have to change the config.xml to allow the server accept relay mails from your host machine from which you are sendign the mail ...
ie
change
<mailet match="RemoteAddrNotInNetwork=127.0.0.1" class="ToProcessor">
<processor> relay-denied </processor>
<notice>550 - Requested action not taken: relaying denied</notice>
</mailet>
add few more ips (your network / subnet ip)
so that it accpets mails from that machine to be relayed ...
you can also change the smtp autheriZation part and do that ...
any one is enough ..
Regards
Venkat

Stopping Junk Mail once and for all.

Hi everyone!
Like most everyone I think that spam is rather annoying. I was thinking about how to get rid of it and came up with a very simple yet powerful idea. I've never heard of this way so at least in my own little world I can say I came up with it.
The idea is this: You define a basic set of mail rules. The rules would be this:
- If ALL of the following conditions are met:
+ Sender is not in my Address Book
+ Sender is not in my Previous Recipients
+ Message is Junk Mail
Now of course using the rules that were set above are not at all a great way of defining spam, because someone trying to get a hold of you (such as a potential employer or long lost friend for example) will likely not make their way through those rules, and their message will be marked as spam. Here's where it gets good though! Instead of simply doing a message bounce, you can also add a custom message that goes along with the bounce, as if you were to reply to the spam yourself. Now of course you can make some dirty comments to the potential spammer, but the point of the auto replying is not to be mean or anything of the like. So before going further, here's what would basically happen:
-=-=-=-
I have automatically returned this message to you because I think it is spam.
Original message:
Is your girlfriend happy?!?! bla bla bla
-=-=-=-
Okay now back to the problem: what if the supposed spam message is actually not spam and is important? Well, not a problem! We now use the power of the custom response. Instead of just saying "I have automatically returned this message to you because I think it is spam," we can also add "If this message is not spam, please resend the message and include in the subject line the phrase "we2y9e5". So if the message was indeed a legitimate email and not spam, the original sender can now put the phrase "we2y9e5" in the subject field. And now that can be a custom mail rule! So in the end you'll have:
- If ALL of the following conditions are met:
+ Sender is not in my Address Book
+ Sender is not in my Previous Recipients
+ Subject does not contain we2y9e5
Perform the following actions:
+ Reply to Message [Reply Message Text...]
+ Delete Message
So now if the Sender sends you an email with the subject "we2y9e5" in it, it will no longer be bounced back to them. From there you can add the Sender to your Address Book and have a new lifelong friend.
Of course, if the message was actual spam, the spammer could just go ahead and put "we2y9e5" in the subject line and get through your new shield. This is in no way a problem though, because if people start using this method there's no way a spammer would bother looking for the phrase in an email. Even if they did, it's just a simple matter of changing your phrase and updating the rule that goes along with that phrase. You can even have a little fun and make it like a little puzzle, like "the phrase is the sound a cat makes" or something like that. Just don't make it too confusing, but you get the idea.
No spam means it's far less likely for users to have their computer taken over by those who are up to no good. You won't have to nervously post your email on forums in some weird "this-is[delete this section]my-email [at] yahoo [d0t] com" format. Best of all you'll never have to go through your mail and delete spam again! Give this method a try and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
I have attached some screenshots of how to set it up for those who are like me and would rather go off a picture.
Happy emailing!
http://www.fullarticulation.net/tutorials/spam/antispam01.jpg
http://www.fullarticulation.net/tutorials/spam/antispam02.jpg
http://www.fullarticulation.net/tutorials/spam/antispam03.jpg
~Reckless Ronin
[email protected]
www.fullarticulation.net

There are a number of problems with this approach.
1. You should not reply to spam, since in the unlikely event that the "reply to" or "return path" email address is actually owned by spammers, it will confirm to them that yours is a real, "live" email address. This will get it on lists sold & traded among spammers, increasing dramatically the number of junk messages sent to you.
Note: bouncing spam will usually have the same effect, since (contrary to what you might think) it is easy to extract the "bouncer's" email address from the message Mail sends. Bouncing is really only effective if a human reads the reply.
2. In the more typical case, the sender's address is forged, often with a real address of some entity, perhaps from one of these "known good" lists. Sometimes a real address is chosen specifically to victimize its owner, for instance to damage a reputation or to flood a mailbox -- sometimes this is the entire purpose of the spam.
3. A lot of legitimate email is generated by automated systems with no human involved. Frequently these are alerts or advisories, telling you that if action is required it must be done by other than email means, such as through a web site or phone call. Some ignore all email replies, or take action only on those with specific subject or body keywords. It is often not possible to know in advance the email address this type of message is sent from; thus, you can not add it to Address Book until you actually receive an example.
4. Even if the sender is a human & the message is legitimate, the "I think this is spam" reply may cause them not to resend a second version containing your special keyword for various reasons. Imagine for instance someone on a slow, dial up connection, or on a usage based fee service, or with any sort of quota limits to worry about. Or think about what would be required if some poor soul sent a first-time message to a large group, say for organizing a high school reunion, & many of them used this approach, each with their own special 'not junk' keyword.
Basically, a good, effective junk filter must not generate a large number of false positives, & it certainly should not make things easier for spammers or harder for other users. I urge you to rethink this approach.

Spam fighting Idea for Email Users-Beyond Junk Mail

I get so much junk mail I was hoping there was a way to automatically bounce back anything that got classified as junk. Then the important person who sent the email could use the old telephone for contact if they found they weren't getting their communication through. There would be an added bonus of all the emails that were junk would look the same (Mail Delivery System) and faster to delete.
Does anyone else think this is a good idea or is it just stupid.

Do you use this email address for public purposes, such as for online purchases, or for website access if an email address is required for access, or provide it for anything and everything when an email address is requested or required?
Do you automatically render all HTML received? If so, and a spammer includes embedded images or objects with HTML formatting that must be rendered from a remote server to be viewed, you are notifying the spammer that your email address is valid or "known good" causing even more spam to be received. When the Mail.app's Junk Mail filter correctly marks a message as junk when received, and the spammer includes embedded images or objects that must be rendered from a remote server to be viewed, these will not be rendered when such a message is marked as junk as a security measure. But this does not apply if such a junk message is not marked as junk when received, which is why automatically rendering all HTML when received is not a good idea.
Have you ever selected a link included with a spam message - any link, and especially a remove your address from the circulation list link? If so, you have done nothing but notify the spammer that your email address is valid or "known good" causing even more spam to be received.
Spammers sell/trade their "known good" email address lists to each other, causing even more spam.
If you have done any or all of these things, you have inadvertently and unknowingly added to the amount of spam you are receiving.
Once an email address is so badly compromised, it is impossible to get the cat back in the bag.
The best thing to do is to have a personal email address that is used to exchange email with family and friends only. Do not use this email address for online purchases, or for any other public consumption. Get a free Hotmail account that is accessed via webmail only using a browser to be used for online purchases and for public consumption.
A Gmail account is free, can be accessed as an IMAP or POP account with an email client on your computer, has webmail access, has an authenticated SMTP server so you can send messages with the account regardless the ISP being used for your internet connection, and Gmail has a good spam filter at their incoming mail server.
You don't want to reply to, bounce back, select any links, or render any HTML for spam for a number of reasons.

Junk Mail AppleScripts

I've received email messages from others where my email address wasn't in their address book--so my message was defined as spam.
The message asked me to call (no number, meaning I needed to know the recepient) to have my email address added to their address book.
Is there an AppleScript that will automatically send this form email to every spam email I get...and then delete the spam email?
I'm already forwarding it all to a Junk Mail folder, but it's starting to get absurd with hundreds of spam emails daily.

Thanks for the response, but I've already set up a Junk Mail folder and have junk mail going into it.
I don't want to deal with it any more, but I don't want to miss those few that slip through into Junk Mail that shouldn't because they have a new email or whatever.
To be more specific, this is what I'd like to have happen:
1. An incoming email message is catagorized as Junk through the Junk Mail filter.
2. A form reply is generated that says, "I've been getting hundreds of spam emails lately, so I've had to bounce them back. If this message comes to you and you legitimately need to contact me, please call me to put your email address into my address book. Sorry for the inconvenience."
3. The Junk message is deleted...not put into a Junk folder...deleted automatically.
Is there an AppleScript that will do this for me?
Thanks!
Arlaine

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