Bounding box of placed pdf 'reflecting' objects of parent Ai file... Not what I want!

As a self-taught Illustrator CS3 user I keep running into confounding issues. The latest is this:
Artboard is US letter size. I have a placed jpg image in the top half that extends beyond the artboard on one side. Only want 3/4 of the jpg content
in the final product.
Some text at the bottom.
All in all a basic poster.
A clipping mask hides the part of the image that extends past the arboard.
I save this 'parent' Ai file as a copy PDF - no layers - no editing - no thumbnails ect. Keep original Ai parent file for later editing.
I want to put this PDF into another ai document, but when I do, the bounding box extends past the pdf content out to
where the jpg image is in the parent Ai file.
Why? Why can't I save a pdf that produces a stand alone img/doc without any apparent connection to its 'parent'? Why can't this just happen without me having to crop the original jpg in photoshop to fit the parent Ai document perfectly and or somehow crop the image in the parent Ai.
Oh, and I have tried the crop tool and "make" crop area under the Object menu that contains only what is showing on the artboard.
Same result.
PDF that in Preview shows correctly but when placed in another ai file somehow 'becomes' larger with a bounding box that includes much more than what is actually there.
This is maddeningly stupid IMO.
Hope someone can be that patient professor of the design/Illustrator course that I can't afford, but that I need so desperately all the time.

Why?
I don't know; I just chalk it up as another instance of the sloppiness that permeates Illustrator, and the convoluted multiple nested clipping paths so common in PDFs.
If I place the PDF as a Link, its bounding box corresponds to the clipping mask of the PDF.
If I place the PDF embedded, not linked, then I get the result you describe.
That arguably sort of makes sense in that, when you "place" (but embed) a PDF in Illustrator, you're really importing its content, including the nested clipping paths; and AI CS3 and prior always displays the bounds and edges of masked portions of clipping paths. When you "place" the PDF as a link, it's a preview that displays on the page, as if you were just linking a raster image.
In CS4 and CS5, Adobe finally fixed the silliness of displaying edges of masked portions of the content of clipping paths, so in those versions, it probably acts the way you want whether linked or embedded. (I only have CS3 on this laptop, so can't verify right now.)
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