BPC 5.1 and BPC 7 NW

Hi:
Has anyone installed both BPC 5.1 and 7.0 NW on the same machine?
We need to demo 5.1 and 7 NW to different clients and are wondering if we can use same machine to install both versions.
I do not see any specific technical requirement conflicts in the installation document.
Has anyone tried this with success? Any issue to look out for?
Thanks,
Subramania

Hi Subramania,
I assume you're talking about the client only, not the server. I had a BPC 7 NW client installed on my machine back in October (an early release) and it didn't allow an install without first uninstalling the BPC 5.1 MS client. Likewise, to go back to 5.1 MS I had to uninstall the 7.0 NW.
This may have been improved in the most recent builds of 7.0, but I would be very surprised if they can sit side-by-side.
I'd recommend using a virtual machine setup for one or the other, even if it's just a VM running XP with the BPC client software (i.e., not the BPC server).

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