BPC BO integration roadmap?

Hi,
I would like to know what are the options/roadmap for integration of BPC 7 N/W ver. with BO tools? I have already seen the Xcelsius integration with BPC ,but what about other BO tools like Universe designer ? Or do we have to rely on sap integration kit to bring in data from backend-bw cubes of BPC into BO?
Regards,
Rinal

Sorry we can't comment or publish roadmap details here on this forum. Please have a look at the [EPM Statement of Direction|http://download.sap.com/download.epd?context=28C50F34DBC5B1739D53D0C969B0D364E06E399FA7A818D08B48EF091E468B491FB5D07984032689F051993248C4C11172D88EA07CBE2EAA] document available from SAP.COM.
If you are reading this and you are an SAP customer you have the opportunity to participate in the Customer Value Network meetings which are coordinated through the SAP user groups where you will be privileged to learn about roadmap details more thoroughly.
If you are an SAP partner reading this post I encourage you to explore the tools which are available to you at the [SAP Ecosystem for Partners|http://www.sap.com/ecosystem/partners/index.epx].
Best regards,
[Jeffrey Holdeman|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki?path=/display/profile/jeffrey+holdeman]
SAP BusinessObjects
Enterprise Performance Management
Regional Implementation Group

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