BPM 11G licensing question

I have a BPM 10G system in production, all paid up, sitting on WebLogic Server but no other Oracle bits and bobs like OSB for example.
I want to migrate to 11G which is now part of SOA Suite, what are the licensing implications of doing this?
Thanks

Manoj Das (Oracle BPM Product Manager) addressed it in this thread a while back: Re: What exactly is BPM Suite 11g?
You might want to reach out to your Oracle rep to see if anything's changed since this was posted.

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http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E14571_01/doc.1111/e15175/bpmug_ws_admin.htm#sthref118
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Were you able to close the same? If yes, please help me also...

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We have invested a lot of effort & time in developing Business Processes in ALBPM 6.5. One of the critical features in ALBPM 6.5 was the Business Catalog - if I had a set of Java Utility Classes bundled in a JAR Archive, I could " catalog " it & reference & reuse the classes via the PBL Code.
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1. Does Oracle BPM 11G also have the facility of directly " cataloging " Java JAR Archives ?
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Please do let me know your thoughts & opinions.
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There are 2 options you have:
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2. You expose your java classes through a spring context and use the spring component to expose the required classes as services within your composite which you can wire directly to your BPMN process.
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Invoking bpel process from java in oracle soa/bpm 11g

Hi,
We have some java code to invoke bpel process in oracle BPM 10g following the instructions in http://download-east.oracle.com/docs/cd/B14099_19/integrate.1012/b14448/invoke.htm.
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http://biemond.blogspot.com/2009/11/invoking-soa-suite-11g-service-from.html
http://biemond.blogspot.com/2009/11/calling-soa-suite-direct-binding.html?showComment=1285198033913#comment-c1055322845511794252
My question is:
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2) does user need to add an adapter/binding in exposed service lane in order to let the bpel service be called in java?
3) what is the real difference between a bpm application and soa application in 11g?
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Bin

Thanks for your reply and confirmation, really appreciate it.
Yes, I found the difference of the invoking process API and was able to invoke bpel process using direct and ADF-BC binding by following Edwin's blog. But I have not found any official reference to compare this API difference between 10g and 11g ( I will mark this question as answered if anyone can find an official source from oracle, need to prove it to the team). The API to work with human task workflow seems pretty much the same between 10g and 11g.

BPM 11G comments and file attachments issue on human tasks

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------ Process steps ----
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---------------------------------------opatch update output -----------------------------------------------------------
ApplySession adding interim patch '9958661' to inventory
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Ok, this is what i did:
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Who knows BPM 11g: JAVA API and Webservice API?
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Any support for papi in bpm 11g ?

Hi,
Request you to please let me know if there is any equivalent support to PAPI ( Process API in 10 g ) available in BPM 11g ?
thanks

Hi,
You should search the forum. This question has been asked many many times :)
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Custom Escalation in Human Task in Oracle SOA BPM 11g

This is a sample that demonstrates custom escalation in Human Task in Oracle SOA BPM 11g.
package oracle.bpel.services.workflow.assignment.dynamic.patterns;
import java.util.Map;
import oracle.bpel.services.workflow.assignment.dynamic.DynamicAssignmentException;
import oracle.bpel.services.workflow.assignment.dynamic.IDynamicTaskEscalationFunction;
import oracle.bpel.services.workflow.task.impl.WorkflowUtil;
import oracle.bpel.services.workflow.task.model.Task;
import oracle.tip.pc.services.identity.LocalIdentityService;
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regards.

Thanks for your reply and confirmation, really appreciate it.
Yes, I found the difference of the invoking process API and was able to invoke bpel process using direct and ADF-BC binding by following Edwin's blog. But I have not found any official reference to compare this API difference between 10g and 11g ( I will mark this question as answered if anyone can find an official source from oracle, need to prove it to the team). The API to work with human task workflow seems pretty much the same between 10g and 11g.

Oracle BPM 11g Certification

Know this is a repeat of an already answered question regarding Oracle BPM 11g Certification (certification for oracle BPM 11G but would like to see if there might be an update on when this might be available.
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Edited by: Daniel Atwood on Jan 3, 2011 7:55 AM

Under the BPM Suite of products, we have a certification for Oracle Webcenter 11g. You can find more info on our website at: http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=389
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The second question is how can I add an adapter that alllows me to specify our own source code? In this scenario we would write the Java to formulate the SOAP call directly, thus allowing us to add the security into the call directly.
Any information is much appreciated.
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Former Oracle BPM product (Aqualogic BPM) automatically managed the versioning of processes deployed to the server. When a new version of a process was created, the server automatically determined if it is a minor or major revision and a new process version number was recommended.
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Now, when I deploy a new version of process I can only choose between rewriting existinig revision (all active instances will stale and become unusable) or deploying new revision (all active instances will continue using previous version).
Is there a way to migrate existing instances to new process (if there were only minor changes)?
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