BPM: 2 synchronou receive step

Hi everyone,
Hi have to design a BPM which has 2 synchonous receive steps. The first I open a asynch/synch bridge. In the second one I use correlation but the receive says asynchronous receive step. This has to be synchronous. I have to sent back a message to the request.
How can I achieve this?
Thanks.

Hi have to design a BPM which has 2 synchonous receive steps. The first I open a asynch/synch bridge. In the second one
I use correlation but the receive says asynchronous receive step. This has to be synchronous.
The Sync-Async communication means that there is a source system which operates in SYNC mode and there is one target system which cannot operate in SYNC mode....now in your scenario I cannot find a System which works in Async mode....all your communication is SYNC....so the SYNC-Async bridge concept does not apply here.
We cannot change the process.
Bad.....one workaround would be change the mode of first Receive step to Async....i.e. receive only the request from the sender....then in the last Send step (where you now intend to close the bridge) send the response asynchronously.
Keep updated if the S/A bridge works without Async communication.
Regards,
Abhishek.

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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/cb/15163ff8519a06e10000000a114084/content.htm
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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes" ?>
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<SAP:Code area="RCVR_DETERMINATION">NO_RECEIVER_CASE_ASYNC</SAP:Code>
<SAP:P1 />
<SAP:P2 />
<SAP:P3 />
<SAP:P4 />
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<SAP:ApplicationFaultMessage namespace="" />
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File to XI to BPM to SOAP to RFC
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> receiver_container
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> Source(Soap_response_container), Target(RFC_request_container)
Send Asynch -
> RFC_request_container
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Message was edited by: Steven De Saeger

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The WebService returns some data we need for the destination structure.
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4. async. Send Step: we have to merge and map the Idoc fields and the
resulting fields of the WebService into the destination structure.</i>
>>>>
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>    I came across this question in one of the site. Can you please tell me which option is correct?
>
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>
>             1) Only a receive Step
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>
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I think you need to change the objects. Please try the below logic, and let us know if it helps!
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SOAP_REQUEST_OI
SOAP_REQUEST_AI
SOAP_REQUEST_OI
JDBC_STATUS_AI
JDBC_STATUS_II
SEND_RECEIVE_sRFC_AI
JDBC_RESPONSE_AI
JDBC_RESPONSE_II
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Outbound Interface :SOAP_REQUEST_OI
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Interface Determination-1
Sender : SOAP Service
Outbound Interface :SOAP_REQUEST_OI
Inbound Interface :SOAP_REQUEST_AI
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Receiver Determination -2
Sender : BPM
Outbound Interface :SOAP_REQUEST_AI
Configured Receiver : JDBC Service
Interface Determination-2
Sender : BPM
Outbound Interface :SOAP_REQUEST_AI
Inbound Interface :JDBC_STATUS_II
Interface Mapping IM_WS_2_JDBC
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Sender : BPM
Outbound Interface :SEND_REC_RFC_AI
Configured Receiver : RFCService
Interface Determination-3
Sender : BPM
Outbound Interface :SEND_REC_RFC_AI
Inbound Interface :ZRFC
Interface Mapping from IM_WS_2_RFC_2_JDBC
Receiver Determination -4
Sender : BPM
Outbound Interface :JDBC_RESPONSE_AI
Configured Receiver : Receiver Service
Interface Determination-4
Sender : BPM
Outbound Interface :JDBC_RESPONSE_AI
Inbound Interface :JDBC_RESPONSE_II
No Interface Mapping
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Step1:
Receive: SOAP_REQUEST_AI
Step2:
Asynch Send:SOAP_REQUEST_AI
Step3:
Synch Send:
Synch Interface:SEND_REC_RFC_AI
Request:SOAP_REQUEST_AI
Response:JDBC_RESPONSE_AI
Step4:
Asynch Send:JDBC_RESPONSE_AI
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Thanks,
raj.

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Hi, all:
We have defined a BMP process, like below:
Receive (Start Process) --> Sync Send --> Sync Send --- Async Send
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I think you are facing problem with corrrelation. Follow this procedure to define correlation : -
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3. There in Correlation Name choose your Correlation variable.
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This is the whole procedure to define a correlation and use it.
If you need further clarification plz revert.
Regards,
Sami.
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