BPM, abstract interface unavailable

Hello,
I want to build a business process. Therefore I need some container elements. One container element has the type abstract interface. The message interface is defined in some namespace of some software component. But unfortunately I can't select this message interface in the dialog. Of course I have already activated my change list. I also refreshed the CPA cache, but this doesn't help a lot. What can I do in order to see this abstract interface.
Thank you very much,
Oliver

Hallo Oliver,
XI currently only allows BPM to use interfaces within the same software component or within a software component with which you have a based on relationship defined.
I think, that this does not make too much sense, but that's the answer we got to an according OSS message.
Best Regards
Christine

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