BPM - Application Acknowledge.

Hi guys,
Im using a SOAP sync scenario to call a sync/async bridge. Under BPM the process asynchronous can waste much time until finish. So, the web service need to maintain the connection established to waiting a response that can have a big delay and generate slowness in the service.
To prevent this situation I would like to send a response back to webservice before the request entered in BPM. If it possible, it would not have to wait that the async process finished to send a response with ok or received.
Is it possible do this like an Application acknowledge?
Thanks in advance,
Ricardo.

Hi Ricardo,
> The information that web service need is a simple
> response message with processed successfully.
To optimize in integration scenario it is not sufficient to know, what the interfaces request technically. You need to know, how the information is used in the application system. That is way I am asking for.
> My question is: Is it possible doing this using my
> s/a bridge in the same sender connection, without new
> receiver message interface and receiver soap
> adapter?
When you have a sync interface, the response is send back to the application automatically. You need not create an interface for the response.
> This response message can be sent to the web service
> directly from the s/a bridge without using a receiver
> soap adapter?
Yes.
> I just only need a response message comparable an
> http 200 ok, but instead of this I would like to use
> a message processed successfully.
>
> It can be possible?
Yes
Regards
Stefan

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Please provide your comments on this.
Thanks.

First of all a java proxy would not help much here - there is no use for that in SOA suite especially when it comes to using the JCA adapters. Instead reference the WSDL directly in SOA suite but there is a caveat - see my response below
1) What if I create a web service proxy and wants to use in the BPM app. How can I use this?
Dont create a WS proxy. Instead reference the WSDL and call it using a Service Task from the BPM process
2) Which component do I need to use "Web Service" component or "Third Party Adapter" component from the component pallette?
Use the WSDL directly and select "Web Service" from the component palette
3) If I use directly the wsdl in the "Web Service" component will it cause any issues in the future.
Yes there are lots of issues referencing a WSDL directly. Instead upload the WSDL reference to SOA-MDS and then use the oramds:// reference to the WSDL. This will ensure the composite does not break when the WSDL is not available. JDeveloper also goes into a tizzy when the WSDL is not up.
thanks,
Vikram

BPM - Application Acknowledge.

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