BPM n MDM

Hi all,
Can we do the scenatios 1:N and N:1 without using BPM ?
What is the Diff b/w Msg type n data type ?
and what is MDM ?

Hi,
Without BPM 1:N possible, but N:1 not possible
For 1:N follow this link
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/weblogs?blog=/pub/wlg/3115. [original link is broken] [original link is broken] [original link is broken]
data types
A data type is a basic unit for defining the structure of the data for a message type and, as a
result, for the message to be exchanged.
Please go through this link for further reference:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/a5/04623c4f69b712e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
exchangefaultdata and exchangeLogData
All fault message types reference the data type ExchangeFaultData for this part and, indirectly,
the data type ExchangeLogData. These data types are automatically created in a namespace when you
create the first fault message type there.
message type
A message type comprises a data type that describes the structure of a message. At the following
points in SAP Exchange Infrastructure you can refer to the message to be exchanged at runtime by
using the message type
Please go through this link for further reference:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/2d/c0633c3a892251e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/e7/7356405aff1e24e10000000a1550b0/frameset.htm
This is not correct place to post the MDM questions, according to my knowledge MDM maintains master data globally without redendency for different modules.

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2.
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