BPM: Send step bypassed at run time

Hi,
In BPM, there is a send step after a transformation step in a block.
In the corresponding interface mapping for the transformation step, the name of the .xsl mapping name is incorrect in spelling.
Now due to this a strange situation is happening.
When I looked into the trace, the system is searching for the xsl mapping. But fails to find it.
Still, the BPM proceeds without an error, bypassing all the other steps of the current block including the send step, and goes to the next step after the block. And the BPM is completed.
Can anyone please explain this behaviour?
Thanks,
John

HI,
Please can you give the details about your Integration process. (Which steps you had used)
Thanks
Swarup

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You would not believe me but I had the same requirement a year back.
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Idoc Acknowledgements and Idoc Packaging
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