Breaking new. Oracle buy Sun.

Would be interesting to know what SAPs response will be.
Java now being in the control of oracle, amongst other web technologies.
Will mysql be killed off?
How will IBM respond and what about the eclipse framework?
Will SAP now move to the .Net frame work and migrate away from Java?
What will oracle to with the Sun hardware business?
Interesting times ahead

Java now being in the control of oracle, amongst other web technologies.
Interesting. But I think the way SAP is moving towards OO there is no need to again migrate any other frame work.
and more over i don' t think there is not any big difference between the .NET and Java Frame work. both are nealry similar repeating the (SIMILAR)

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Oracle Buys Sun Microsystems

its been long time since i posted something here but thought of sharing this with you
Oracle Corporation the largest enterprise software company acquired Sun Microsystems.
http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/media/presskits/2009-0420/index.jsp
http://www.oracle.com/sun/index.html
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a38_8MJNSjR4&refer=home
fadi

its been long time since i posted something here but thought of sharing this with you
Oracle Corporation the largest enterprise software company acquired Sun Microsystems.
http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/media/presskits/2009-0420/index.jsp
http://www.oracle.com/sun/index.html
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Oracle to buy SUN - thoughts?

Very interesting news - Oracle swallows up SUN microsystems.
What will be the impact on the database industry in general - where
will MySQL fit into Oracle's strategy?
Java? Hardware?
Is it a good fit? Any thoughts &c. welcome. My first thought is that the
price is too high. SUN took a real bath on their purchase of
MySQL and all of their code has essentially gone open-source.
Paul...

Paulie wrote:
Perhaps you haven't noticed, but Oracle IS active in the Open Source community. Yes, I have, and they will continue to be so for just as long as it fits their
strategy. Oracle is a commercial company - its directors would be in dereliction
of their fiduciary duty if they didn't maximise shareholder return. Wafflings about
Open Source/Software Libre aren't permanent commitments - and I do acknowledge their
contributions - however, they could stop in the morning, if Oracle changed
its mind.And how is that is different from any other organization, including Open Source organizations?
>
And like every other commercial organization that is active, it picks and chooses what it will suipport, Or will discontinue.Very true.
And we see Oracle's recent track record, especially in the area of Open Source. As a result, I don't see as much gloom and doom as some.
>
The question in my mind is whether the Open Source community will stop running in circles and
screaming about the falling sky long enough to see how they can worlk WITH Oracle.That's very much of Oracle's choosing - they can redirect engineers at the drop of a hat. The Open
Source community has no such power.Open Source DOES have that power. A number of the Open Source projects that I have depended upon are fizzled - not updated in years, because the developer community has repurposed itself. I can not count the number of times I've seen "so and so now has a real job. We are looking for someone to take over development." Nor can I count the number of times that no one actually has taken over development.
Yes, I could help, at the cost of not having the time to complete those projects for which I was using them. So much for my dream ...
I do believe in Open Source in many aspects. But I took off my rose-coloured glasses some time ago.
The Open Source dream depends on the community having grown to enough people to care and have the expertise to carry on when the core moves on. There are many smaller projects that will stagnate becuase there is insufficient community. And when a project stagnates too long, the only left over is the original source which needs may not be operational (glibc incompatibilities are an example) resultng in a shell that needs to be reverse engineered before it can be resurrected. ANd the cost of reverse engineering can be quite high.
Oracle can not kill the more popular aspects - they will simply fork. And that will introduce new competition, which would cost Oracle a significant price. AND the acquisitions that have made in the past, and these new ones open up a significant new customer base which needs to be nutured to become paying customers of some kind tomorrow. Leaders like Ellison and Phillips know that. I think they have every incentive to keep supporting the Open Source.
>
My guess is that some in Redwood City are drooling at the prospect of controlling the entire stack
from bare iron to "enhanced end-user RIA experience"...
Maybe in the first instance a move from Linux to Solaris as the development
platform of choice for the Oracle database?I look at YaST vs YUM and ask a similar question. So why not? The choice being
a) use a derivative from a competitor
b) use their own operating system
My hope is Oracle continuing to Open Source Solaris.
>
I'll bet you a beer that this change will be made in the next year, say by
20 April 2010!
You are kidding. Bet that Oracle will commit to it's own product set (including the Open Source set it owns) before supporting outsider product? That's like asking for someone to bet on someone taking his wife to dinner in public vs his girl friend.
Edited typos by: Hans Forbrich on Apr 22, 2009 6:54 AM

Oracle makes bid to buy Sun. Should I be learning ABAP?

[Oracle to buy Sun.|http://www.oracle.com/sun/index.html]
Can Oracle now change the JCP to their advantage? Will SAP continue to participate (I would assume so)? Will Oracle let SAP in the door?
Comments? Concerns? Rants?

SUN acquisition poses a challenge to SAP world which is fast moving towards the JAVA technology.
For few years to come challenge will shoot up. Prepare for the worst and do your best to enhance your knowledge.

Oracle in Sun Solaris as opposed to HP

I have a question regarding a system we will have. It is being built on Oracle 9i in Sun Solaris environment. My question would be if someone suggests that to take this system and implement in a HP environment, will there be any problem?
Is there any whitepaper on applications developed for one environment being implemented in a different hardware platform? What are the risks factors and what can go wrong?
We have lots of HP machines in our organization and so the question had recently popped up in people's mind about why would we want to buy Sun hardware and have Solaris OS if we can have Oracle in the HP box? The vendor did not test to see if the application would work in a HP environment. But I would be interested to know if anyone ever experienced such scenarios or Oracle had done analysis of such cases. Appreciate any answers.

The ease of migrating to a different hardware platform will depend on the tools used to build the application.
In one of our systems, the server side programs are all written entirely in C. We have moved this application from Data General to HP to IBM. In each case, we installed Oracle, created a new database, exported the database from the old server and imported onto the new server. We then copied all of the application source onto the new box and re-compiled. Aside from a few very minor differences in rounding behaviour in the C libraries, everyting worked perfectly.
On the other hand, we have another application where the server-side code is all written in a dialect of MUMPS, with an emulator program running on top of the OS. This one can never be moved to new hardware.
Generally speaking, if the server-side code is written in a standard language, or if there is no server-side code, just a database, then the application should run just fine on any hardware supported by Oracle.
HTH
John

Oracle buys Toplink .... what happens to BC4J?

I was surprised to read that Oracle will support Struts in the next release of JDeveloper while they've developed their own Oracle MVC.
Now I'm equally surprised to read that Oracle buys Toplink ( http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/53/25579.html ) and I wonder whether I should indeed develop on top of BC4J.
Confused.

It seems that you are providing loads of options on the "infrastructure" level here. Thanks, choice is good!
However, when under pressure to deliver a web application fast (eg as fast as generating pages with the >Web Server generator in Designer), it would be nice to be relieved of the choice (and the necessary >learning & testing) and have an Oracle recommended path and full commitment + tool support for it. Yeah, with Oracle you see alot of how to migrate from our old stuff to our new stuff lately. I am not even sure what their full commitment means for the non-core (database, PL/SQL,...) technologies. Although, if Oracle is buying TopLink, I would like to hear their strategy as soon as possible. This would give Oracle a path to support JDO as well. TopLink is great. It's an actually solution to real world problems. Unlike half of J2EE, which is more of a solution for vendors to sell something. BC4J is nice for similar reasons. Although, if it weren't for the cost I'd be using TopLink for O-R and until today I was pretty committed to using BC4J on my upcoming project. Now, I want to see what happens with TopLink. If that were included with JDeveloper or our current Oracle licensing agreement, then that'd change things for me.
Nobody wants to be in the position of using an abandoned framework. Since UIX-XML and BC4J are not an official standard like EJB or JDO or unofficial standard like Struts, or even just open source that you know you can always enhance fix, it makes me a bit uncomfortable. However, UIX/BC4J is where the IDE is currently focussed. So if you want the RAD that's what you get.
So best case, Oracle buys TopLink uses for O-R portion of BC4J and a JDO implementation that's included with the appserver and/or JDeveloper, where we could still continue to work with BC4J on one level or use TopLink/JDO alone. Worst case, we end up having to migrate all our apps from UIX/BC4J to Struts/JDO-TopLink.
So will IBM try to by Cocobase or something?
And why did BEA let TopLink slip through their fingers? BEA could end the only big heavy without a JDO implementation in their J2EE server.
Of course, none of this might happen.
Steve

Breaking News: Apple's Steve Jobs offers $100 credit to early iPhone buyers

Breaking News on CNN!!!!
http://money.cnn.com/?cnn=yes

angeldandruff wrote:
I concur! But I will comment more based on the terms of the store credit and validity.
I agree..I'm not going to get ahead of myself and plan out what I want to buy before anything is really gone into detail. But I do say if it's just for the Apple online store (not iTunes store) then that Apple protection plan for the iPhone that I haven't got yet looks pretty nice. But if it's for iTunes as well then I'm getting $100 worth of 24 season 6, ringtones, and songs.

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I have the new Oracle 8i installer and here is why

I have been trying to get Oracle 8i on Linux and I feel that I
must share
my thoughts on the new Oracle installer with everybody.
I hate the new installer. I used to run the installer from
home over my
128Kbps connection while I was connected to the office machines,
because it
was simple text based. And Oracle 8i has changed all that!
I have nothing against GUI based installers, only when they have
a little too
many animated images that eat up bandwidth. I had to drive all
the way to
the office because I did not have sufficient bandwidth to display
the darn
ringing bell animated image. This is strictly the mentality of
Windows users
who like to work on the console of servers.
And check this out:
line 118 in my install log file at :
/usr/local/oracle/u01/app/oracle/oraInventory/logs/installActions.log
says :
platGroup = WINDOWS
And this is on Linux!!! Maybe the Oracle folks are forgetting
that Linux
users are a little too sensitive to these kind of mistakes. :)
This also supports my theory that the new installer is a gift
from Windows
programmers. Who are not too familiar with the idea of being
able to send
their video display to any computer around the world and work
from there.
A feature every Linux user takes for granted
There are numerous other bugs in the installer and other routines
of Oracle
8i for Linux. Some of them I will list here:
2. The installation types screen list 3 options:
Typical, Minimal and Custom.
Somehow Minimal takes more disk space (642 MB) compared to
Typical (585 MB).
Well that is what the installation screen says. I have not tried
to install
using the minimal install.
3. The installation cant figure out how much free space is
available on the /
partition. Is it that hard? Its gives warnings about how I may
not have
enough space.
4. dbassist cant find the cdrom if you try to install the default
database
from CDROM. It says cannot find CDROM even if you have all your
stuff under
/mnt/cdrom
5. The docs talk about software mount points and data mount
points /u01 /u02
/u03 and /u04 that I created, but I could not find anywhere to
specify them
like I was able to, with the last release.
6. "Oracle Protocol Support" section during the install shows no
options at
all. What happened to good ole Net8?
And many others. This product is a joke.
Atif.
[email protected]
null

My sentiments exactly. There are so many bugs in the
installation of this release that I have just about given up.
And I haven't even started testing the new features yet!
I've tried the install on RedHat 6.0 straight out of the box (no
patches or updates applied) and followed the OIG and release
notes to the letter. Clearly, no one at Oracle did the same,
because there are many problems during install. I finally got a
simple database running, but there are some real gotcha's along
the way.
Here are just a few of the bugs I've encountered:
1. Zero length library file $ORACLE_HOME/lib/libnjni8.so.
Netasst doesn't work without it. Someone said they posted the
source code to the comp.databases.oracle.server newsgroup, but I
can't find it.
2. Database Creation Assistant thinks dbmssql.sql is called
dbmssml.sql.
3. Building the Intelligent Agent with TCL 7.5 causes a cascade
of undefined references when running gmake -f ins_oemagent.mk
agent
4. Database Creation Assistant doesn't understand OFA. It wants
to put all of the database files /u01/app/oracle/oradata/<sid> !
5. Database Creation Assistant will sometimes prevent editing
the data file names to put them in OFA compliant directories.
I am appreciative of the free developer licenses for so many
Oracle products, but this is the worst Oracle install I've had
in 12 years.
Atif (guest) wrote:
: I have been trying to get Oracle 8i on Linux and I feel that I
: must share
: my thoughts on the new Oracle installer with everybody.
: I hate the new installer. I used to run the installer from
: home over my
: 128Kbps connection while I was connected to the office
machines,
: because it
: was simple text based. And Oracle 8i has changed all that!
: I have nothing against GUI based installers, only when they
have
: a little too
: many animated images that eat up bandwidth. I had to drive all
: the way to
: the office because I did not have sufficient bandwidth to
display
: the darn
: ringing bell animated image. This is strictly the mentality of
: Windows users
: who like to work on the console of servers.
: And check this out:
: line 118 in my install log file at :
: /usr/local/oracle/u01/app/oracle/oraInventory/logs/installActio
ns.log
: says :
: platGroup = WINDOWS
: And this is on Linux!!! Maybe the Oracle folks are forgetting
: that Linux
: users are a little too sensitive to these kind of mistakes. :)
: This also supports my theory that the new installer is a gift
: from Windows
: programmers. Who are not too familiar with the idea of being
: able to send
: their video display to any computer around the world and work
: from there.
: A feature every Linux user takes for granted
: There are numerous other bugs in the installer and other
routines
: of Oracle
: 8i for Linux. Some of them I will list here:
: 2. The installation types screen list 3 options:
: Typical, Minimal and Custom.
: Somehow Minimal takes more disk space (642 MB) compared to
: Typical (585 MB).
: Well that is what the installation screen says. I have not
tried
: to install
: using the minimal install.
: 3. The installation cant figure out how much free space is
: available on the /
: partition. Is it that hard? Its gives warnings about how I
may
: not have
: enough space.
: 4. dbassist cant find the cdrom if you try to install the
default
: database
: from CDROM. It says cannot find CDROM even if you have all
your
: stuff under
: /mnt/cdrom
: 5. The docs talk about software mount points and data mount
: points /u01 /u02
: /u03 and /u04 that I created, but I could not find anywhere to
: specify them
: like I was able to, with the last release.
: 6. "Oracle Protocol Support" section during the install shows
no
: options at
: all. What happened to good ole Net8?
: And many others. This product is a joke.
: Atif.
: [email protected]
null

How to create a new Oracle OSB project automaticaly with script without IDE

Hello,
I want to create automatically an "Oracle service bus project" and an "Oracle service bus configuration project" with scripts (ANT or Maven or ...) without using IDE, without using workshop or Eclipse. I want to create automatically (ANT or Maven) just a skeleton of an OSB project witch i can use after in workshop.
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I do not want to just create the services (proxy services and business services) but I want to create a template for 40 OSB project with the same scripts ANT/Maven.
Template="Oracle service bus configuration project" + "Oracle service bus project" + services of 40 OSB projects
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Hi,
I'd like to add a new database using dbca, but I want it in a different Oracle Home to the other databases on the server. I notice that in the dbca I do not get an option to specify a new Oracle home. I assume it is because this tool is only for database creation and not instance creation. Do I therefore need to do a full Oracle install in order to create a second Oracle home?
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****Ignore this, I know what I'm doing now****
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Hi,
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i am using the oracle 11gR2
Thanks in Advance,
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after logging into target database, under maintenance tab, data movement header; ther is "clone database" option. When you click on it; you'll see :
Clone Database uses RMAN to duplicate a database from:
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New Oracle Home

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During installing Oracle Software, i got some error and aborted midway.
Again, when i restart, the system check fails with below error.
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========================================================

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New Oracle ADF Application.

Hi
I installed wls1035_oepe111172_win32.exe on my local machine in new directory.
Next I created base_domain and admin console works OK. WebLogic Server Version: 10.3.5.0
In “Oracle Enterprise Pack for Eclipse” I try to create New -> Oracle ADF Application.
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Is this my fault or instalation inconsistence ?
Please help.

Hi,
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The error message you are seeing is due to the fact that the Application Development Runtime is not installed as part of the wls1035_oepe111172_win32.exe.
In order to workaround the issue please download the 11.1.1.5 Application Development Runtime from http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/developer-tools/adf/downloads/index.html and install into the wls home where you installed wls1035_oepe111172_win32.exe.
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