Bridge and ACR

Does any body else suspect that Adobe may release Bridge+ACR as a stand along package at some point in the future? If they did than they could satisfy almost all raw work flow needs:
1) File tree based raw converter (Bridge+ACR)
2) Data base based raw work flow (Light Room)
3) Raw work flow integrated into pixel editor (Photoshop CS3)
All at different price points ($150, $300, $5-600)... I think they (and their customers) would benefit from such a structure.

DJ,
Bridge CS3 which uses ACR 4 is certainly a different app. LR has to I/O through the DB--and thus many of its present shortcomings for many users--but bridge works off a browser based I/O. It does dovetail into PSCS2-3, and ACR 4 has virtually all the features of LR Develop and more.
However, what Paul III suggests, as enticing as it is, is not likely to occur. Bridge is an integral part of CS3 and is central to the Adobe Suite. If they did sell it as a standalone, they would essentially be undercutting their own products--including LR of course, because many would buy it instead of LR and use already mature DAMs--Iview, Idimager, etc,etc,etc for file management--as many do now.
Bridge is central to my workflow, and I am really just testing LR and using the Develop Module until Bridge 2, beta 2, goes public, and that is what I will continue doing as soon as Bridge CS3 is out of beta (it has a terrible memory leak at present in beta 2).
I will of course look at LR again when its file management issues get sorted out and its overall speed is increased to even close to Bridge + a DAM.

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I have found what I believe is a "problem" with JPGs downloaded using Nikon Transfer (ver 1.4.1) and processing same in Adobe Bridge CS4 (Develop Settings) and/or Adobe Camera Raw 5.3 (Photoshop CS4 and Elements 6 as hosts).
Anyone using these programs in their workflow?
The problem, quite simply, is that neither ACR settings (nor Bridge CS4 Develop Settings) "stick" when applied to JPGs that have been downloaded via Nikon Transfer ver 1.4.1.
The same images from the same cameras (D300 and D90), downloaded moments later using Nikon's predecessor software PictureProject work just fine in both Bridge and ACR. Develop Settings appled in Bridge immediately are seen, and JPGs opened in ACR, and settings applied, then "Done" immediately stick and are reflected in Bridge.
If someone else is processing their JPGs in this manner, please let me know, as I have reported the problem to both Nikon and Adobe, and although I have tested it on two different cameras and two differnt laptops, I would like to get an impartial result as well.
One other test, the problem does not seem to affect Nikon's RAW (NEF) format files downloaded from a D2x using Nikon Transfer. More/different test are forthcoming.
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I have generally thought that using the camera manufacturer's software was the safest and most conveneint
Can't say one way or another on that statement about using manufacturers' software. Since Adobe has to interpret each camera models' RAW format having the latest ACR seems to be the best option. But if the manufacturers' software is more convenient, and you get the same results then use it. But it does appear you are not getting what you want, so suggest you try a duplicate test run with images straight from the card reader to Bridge and see if you still have same problems.
I do know it is widely recommended that using a quality card reader gives you more reliable data than getting the pictures straight from the camera. Does not seem intuitive, but that has been experience of many.

Bridge CS3 & ACR with dual monitors

Question: In a dual-monitor Windows XP setup, how do I control which monitor ACR opens on when opened from Bridge?
Background: In my workflow, I use Bridge to open small batches of DNGs in ACR. What I want is to have Bridge on monitor #2 (uncalibrated), but have ACR open on monitor #1 (calibrated). At first I had Bridge opening on #1 and couldn't get ACR to open on #2. Then I figured out how to move ACR to #2, but now it always opens on #2, regardless of where Bridge is. How to fix?
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Okay, I think I've figured out how this works, although (1) the way it appears to function is exactly opposite to how I think it should function, and (2) I still can't figure out how to fix it.
If I open ACR from Bridge on the primary monitor (#1 for short, as designated in Windows XP), ACR will open on the primary monitor by default. If I leave Bridge on the primary monitor but move ACR to the secondary monitor (#2 for short), ACR will continue to open on #2. If, however, I move Bridge to #2, there is no way to get ACR to open on #1; no matter what I do, it will always open on #2. If I then move Bridge back to #1, ACR might open on either monitor. If it continues then to open on #2 the only way to force it to move back to #1 is to open Photoshop on #1 and then open ACR from Photoshop.
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(Yes, I am aware that Microsoft makes a control-panel plugin that supposedly allows calibration of both monitors, but I have been unable to get it to work correctly. By all accounts it is somewhat fragile, doesn't offer support for all dual-monitor graphics cards, there isn't a list of cards it does and doesn't support, and Microsoft doesn't even offer support for the plugin. Way to go, Microsoft.)

Tifs sometimes open in CameraRaw in Bridge and sometimes in PS

I would like my tif files in Bridge to open the Camera Raw menu. Sometimes when I double-click on a tif it opens in CameraRaw in Bridge and other times tif open PS.
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Rob
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But it is very confusing. Every now and then I have the choice with right mouse button to choose to open them in ACR but after fiddling around with one of the settings it is gone again. I do believe that after a complete refresh with manual delete of Bridge and ACR cache files, bridge plist file and using option key with restart to refresh prefs the setting in Bridge prefs leaves you with the fly out menu choice in Bridge, and also double click in Bridge itself.
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When you sign in to Adobe.com with the user ID and Password your using in the Creative Cloud and Photoshop does this link https://www.adobe.com/account/my-products-services.html show that the account has a subscription?
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Color in both Bridge CS5 and ACR look yellow.

The color in my images are all yellow. I've seen some posts but so far no answer to the problem. Can anything at all be done to fix this problem. It it very, very frustrating. Because it's so yellow I cant use ACR for anything at all. Please help
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Ok, for anyone having this problem with both Bridge cs5 and ACR. Here is what solved my problem. All images were looking yellow both in bridge and Camera Raw, so after I did a back up of my harddrive as a System Image all problems were gone! I have no idea what happened, but now the colors are just fine. The problem corrected itself. So, there you have it. Problem fixed.

I am unable to get same preview image colors in Bridge and Lightroom

I am unable to get same file preview in Bridge and Lightroom. The Lightroom preview image (in both the Library and Develop) is more de-saturated. But the exported/saved jpegs match. If I try to match the Lightroom preview image to the Bridge preview image, the resulting Lightroom export colors are off. I have tried this with images with no changes and with changes and the result is the same. I have Lightroom 5.6 and CR 8.6. I am using the latest version of Bridge.
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Bridge and Photoshop CS4 will not recognise the images shot in NEF file

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New Nikon Df camera RAW files not recognized in Bridge and Photoshop.

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Greetings from a Photoshop Newbie. I need a computer, preferably a Mac laptop, with some serious processing power. I take photos with a Pentax 645Z; files are 50MB raw. I upload from Adobe Bridge and manipulate the photo, sometimes turning them into files

Greetings from a Photoshop Newbie. I need a computer, preferably a Mac laptop, with some serious processing power. I take photos with a Pentax 645Z; files are 50MB raw. I upload from Adobe Bridge and manipulate the photo, sometimes turning them into files in excess of 250MB. I cannot resize as the large files are needed for enlargements. Have all sorts of problems trying to manipulate, add effects and saving most large files. I need some serious processing power. Can anyone suggest what Mac i should purchase? I thank you in advance for your help :-)

It sounds as if you're having some system-related problems now, unrelated to processing power as such. In particular, a buggy video driver can cause everything to slow to a crawl.
Medium format files are big, true, but not so big as to cause significant slowdowns on a normally functioning and reasonably current computer. A laptop will always be slower than a well-equipped desktop system, though. Mac vs PC plays no part in this, performance is unrelated to platform.
Bottlenecks are different in ACR and Photoshop, so that should give you a clue. ACR is computing-intensive and mostly limited by CPU speed. Photoshop, however, is mostly bandwidth-intensive and mainly limited by memory and disk throughput. It's also sensitive to GPU issues.

Different portrait rotation behaviour between LR 4.1 and ACR 7.1?

I've only just recently got my hands on LR4 and have noticed a strange behaviour with 4.1.
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Hi Brett, it was the latest at the time, although it's just been updated again with the release of Aperture 3.3.
At any rate, I've not had a problem since. I should perhaps qualify my statement above, when I typed "reimporting from scratch", I meant downloading the Raw files from my cards again. After that all was fine, perhaps a hiccup on the initial import? I'll report if it happens again.

Bridge and PSCS5 slow and unstable after update

I allowed my system to install the updates for Bridge, ACR and PS CS5. Since then everything is unstable.
I open bridge and click an image. I'm first told Bridge is not responding. After a couple minutes it will respond and open ACR. If I click "OPEN" ACR closes but the image doesn't openin PS. PS opens but again I'm told "not responding"
I'm running windows 7 64-bit with PS CS5 64-bit. I have a quad core an 8gb of ram I have dual video card and dual monitors
(if you need any other technicalinfor please ask) All was fine until the update
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Interesting, I'm having a similar problem since the latest update.
TIFF files won't open in PS when clicking on them in either Bridge or Mini-Bridge from within PS. In Mini-Bridge right clicking the image then "Open Image" does load the image in PS. However, in Bridge the only way is to right click on the image and choose "Open in Camera Raw"
I've made sure that PS CS5 is selected as the preferred program for TIFF files, but to no avail. The same applise to PSD files. Although, RAW files bring up Camera RAW by double clicking on them.
There must be an easy answer... and hopefully someone in the know sees these posts.
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Roundtrip and ACR

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I find the ACR adjustments in Bridge and LR to be much more intuitive than Aperture. But, I don't want to switch to LR since Aperture (to me) wins hands-down as an overall better application.
Until I really get a good handle on working with Aperture adjustments, I was thinking of a different workflow option for images that I need to externally edit in PS3. Basically, I was hoping to be able to roundtrip from Aperture to PS3, then open ACR to do the preliminary adjustments before the PS3 edits. It looks to me that this isn't possible - or maybe I'm just overlooking something.
Does anyone know if this is possible - or perhaps have another approach?
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PSD files cannot be opened by ACR, so TIFF is the only format for roundtripping to ACR that doesn't have the possibility of compression artifacts.
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Color Profiled Screen and ACR or Lightroom (Vista)

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My problem is with how I see the colors when I open a file in Adobe Camera Raw, Bridge and Lightroom (actually in Windows Gallery too but this would be a topic for a different forum). They look very saturated, especially yellows, and very far from what I see on my camera (Canon 350d) screen, Explorer or the Canon's Raw Converter.
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Is there anyone who have had the same problem? How did you solve it? Is there anyway to set up something like proofing profile in either of those programs? Or is there any other way to fix this?
Thank you very much,
Vera

Thank you Zeno, I will try to reset them.
My problem is with how ACR shows colors though, not how it converts them.
If I open a RAW file in ACR the colors look really ugly. I convert it to JPEG without touching anything. If then I open this JPEG in Photoshop or IE the colors are fine. There are slight differences in colors if I compare them to JPEG I get from the Canon's software. But this is to be expected and can be corrected by the camera calibration.
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