Bridge Metadata Editing

I am having trouble getting Bridge to save changes made to metadata files. Using the same form I have no trouble with PS. I use, or used to anyway, bridge to batch fill metadata for entire folders of events ect prior to actual post in PS, where I can then fine tune metadata at a 1 photo level, having all the common data already filled.
I can fill the form or template in bridge, but it will not save it to the exp file.
What am I missing??

Workaround. I created a metadata template in PS3 and Saved it. Then created an action that applied the template to the image in PS3 and saved the action. Then I went to Bridge and selected all the files and ran a batch on all of them that ran the action and saved the file. Now each file has the metadata common to them all in the metadata when looking at them in Bridge AND they can all have unique metadate ID added and saved in Bridge.

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Nikon D80 JPGs and PS3 Bridge metadata editing

PS3 Bridge will show thumbnails of Nikon D80 JPGs, but will not allow editing or additions to Metadata to be saved in Bridge. PhotoShop CS3 will allow adding, editing and saving metadata in the File Info section, but I can't edit it with Bridge.
Yeah, I need to upgrade to CS4, but can't get the bean counters to sign off on it!

Workaround. I created a metadata template in PS3 and Saved it. Then created an action that applied the template to the image in PS3 and saved the action. Then I went to Bridge and selected all the files and ran a batch on all of them that ran the action and saved the file. Now each file has the metadata common to them all in the metadata when looking at them in Bridge AND they can all have unique metadate ID added and saved in Bridge.

Metadata edited in Bridge is not reflected in the Info Dialogue Box, but shows up in Photoshop.

Metadata edited in Bridge is not reflected in the Info Dialogue Box, but shows up in Photoshop.

Dear Ramón,
You are right that not all metadata is shown in the Finder info but in my case the once added in IPTC core do show as expected for most file types (but not CR2 raw). As you now I convert my CR2 to DNG for a long time now I had to look up the original Raw file and create the data for description, location, keywords again. The data you can add and alter yourself in the IPTC Core field. I added a series of screenshots showing different info and to my surprise (another reason to keep to DNG…) the Raw file had very less info and the xmp shows it all in a rather long and obscure way. Yet PSD, DNG and File info in PS show the same.
Could not recreate the Bridge metadata workspace from the OP because mine (Bridge CC) does not have the description field as an option anymore for some obscure reason. Also checked this in my CS6 version with same result, making the metadata workspace unusable but that was it already for a long time.
Still leaves us with the problem the OP showed, having all info in most files, as in Finder info, but not in Bridge. So could the OP respond to the purge cache for selection option in post 4?
Here are (a bit to many, sorry) my screenshots showing different file info (in Dutch but you will manage with that) and metadata in Bridge:
Finder info for PSD and DNG:
Finder info for CR2 and XMP:
File info Bridge / PSD:
And a Bridge Metadata view:

Lightroom Metadata editing and workflow is tedious nightmare!

I'm new to Lightroom in just the past month, but have used it enough to see that a serious interface problem makes Lightroom version 1x virtually unusable in a deadline-oriented publishing workflow. Lightroom's Metadata editing and workflow is just a terrible nightmare, and far too tedious and slow. It appears to be an afterthought implemented by good-hearted souls who've never had to edit this sort of information under serious deadline pressures. I know Lightroom is marketed as an image database and not a file browser, but we're all looking to simplify our workflow here and with just a few subtle enhancements, Lightroom could be an excellent file browser and file import manager too.
As it is now, the Lightroom v1x handling of File Naming and Renaming, Metadata Editing and Keyword Editing is poorly implemented and in need of an immediate overhaul to help professional photographers expedite this crucial and time-consuming first step in the archiving workflow. While Lightroom is very good at many other tasks, I give it a big fat "F" of a failing grade for these tasks.
First, the Lightroom Library Module needs an even more simple, linear interface that steps users through a precise procedures (and helps them remember them). Arguably, to accomplish this, the Import function may need to become a separate Module that can be selected and used separately before entering the Library. As File Naming and Renaming, Metadata Editing and Keyword Editing currently are implemented, I, for one, am always forgetting to fill out one of these critical sections and can't even seem to remember that some may need to be done before importing while others appear to be conceived to be done after importing. My point is, all these related steps really need to be done together, but the Interface spreads out the functions too much, and it is nearly impossible to build a logical and linear Import workflow, especially when you are first learning Lightroom.
I'd like to see a workflow that walks me through applying and editing (in order), File Naming, Basic and IPTC Metadata, Captioning and Keywords, so that I don't always forget some obscure step in the process (which I keep doing). Here are some specific suggestions, some of which may prove to be valid, some of which may be problems due to my lack of experience with thye software.
1. As currently implemented, Metadata editing requires too much thought, and does not have enough intelligent automation. Eliminate as much typing as possible (See Photo Mechanic!)
2. Lightroom needs better Metadata Presets. A "Quick Edit" view to simplify interface for editing minimal metadata info (File Name, Basic Info, Keywords, Headline, Limited Copyright Info).
3. Separating Keyword Tags, Metadata Browser, Keywording Presets and Metadata Presets confuses the workflow. They should all appear together under one selectable module that organizes a suggested, linear workflowfor these tasks, but allows it to be customized. This is the sort of tasks that need to be learned by rote memory, and having all these panes floating around on both sides of the photo make it impossible to quickly step through these tasks.
- Name (or Rename) files, Edit/Apply Basic and IPTC Metadata, Edit/Apply Keywords, Import or...
- Import, Name (or Rename) files, Edit/Apply Basic and IPTC Metadata, Edit/Apply Keywords, Import
4. Rename should offer the option of renaming the master file names on the disk, not just file names in the database (which I think is what Lightroom does, but again, this is very confusing for new users)! So, it is my belief that this feature needs a checkbox option to rename one, the other or both. But you need to be able to quickly find this dialog box every time you do an import, and it should not be hidden away out of view under the Library menu. Ideally and logically (for workflow), File Renaming should be handled when starting the Import into Lightroom.
This is critically important because many user

Lightroom metadata editing Part 2 (see Part 1 at top of thread)...
...This is critically important because many users just do not want to trust their images solely to any database and we want the ability to go look for master files with identical names should something go wrong with the software or we decide to edit the file in Photoshop outside of Lightroom or even switch to another library software program.
My own habit is to rename every file with the date followed by a unique, three-digit file number, as in 20070717_001, 20070717_002...up to 999 etc. (I have never shot more than 999 files in a single day, but this could be a four-digit number). To file these on disk, a folder with a similar naming scheme is created for each day's shoot, although a keyword slug is added to the end instead of file numbers.
5. Metadata Presets (Basic Info, IPTC metadata, EXIF metadata), Keywords need to be able to toggled on or off (promote/demote-expand/contract). Turning Off/On one section at a time via the Metadata Presets popup menu is too tedious...and you can't display IPTC and Large Caption together or leave Large Caption turned on. It also is difficult to remember where the Large Caption default (Preferences) setting is...
6. Please get the EXIF data out of the way entirely when editing captions and visa-versa...And the EXIF data should not separate Basic Info and IPTC Info fields. Please relocate the EXIF to the bottom of the Metadata pane...
7. IPTC Content, IPTC Copyright, IPTC Creator, IPTC Image expand/collapse sections need more automation:
- The Presets fields need Preset lists of entry choices for cities, states, countries, etc.!
- ISO Country Code automatically should be filled in when a country is entered.
- Date created automatically should be filled in from camera EXIF data
- Metadata Presets "Save As" should fill in old name, and allow you to rename it; (When it appears, the new name field should not be empty. This would aid in consistent, alphabetical naming
- Metadata Presets naming should support job names, with actual Presets saved under each job name...
8. IPTC Status EXIF, Contact, etc.
- Caption field MUST display more than one line...(6-8 lines)!
- Caption field MUST support Shift/Return!
- Headline (IPTC Content) should be displayed with (and above) caption. Please present information logically!
- Yellow popups should describe what each field name is for...some are real brain teasers...

Custom Info Panel as Bridge MetaData Panel

Hello,
I have built a Custom XMP InfoPanel that shows up in CS6 Bridge just fine! But for ease of data entry we want it to show up in the Bridge MetaData panel. How is this done with the latest best practices?
I have looked everywhere found a number of ways, but ALL are out dated! The XMP FileInfo SDK doesnt cover this.
Thank you
Dean Krueger

Hi Science_DC,
    You are missing the zstring in your label or description and the same issue is with properties too. For testing i changed only two properties but you need to do the smae for others too. I tested after using the ZString and it's working fine in Bridge too. Please find the original and modfied code (only for two properties)
1. Your original properties.xml is
<xmp_schema prefix="custom" namespace="http://my.custom.namespace/" label="<Your label>" description="<Your Panel Description>">
        
        <xmp_property name="Text" category="external" label="<Property Name>" type="text"/>
        <xmp_property name="Text2" category="external" label="<Property Name>" type="text"/>
</xmp_schema>
Insert the ZString like below (inserted text are in bold)
<xmp_schema prefix="custom" namespace="http://my.custom.namespace/" label="$$$/Custom/Panel/Label=<Your label>" description="$$$/Custom/Panel/Description=<Your Panel Description>">
        
        <xmp_property name="Text" category="external" label="$$$/Custom/Panel/Property1 Name=<Property1 Name>" type="text"/>
        <xmp_property name="Text2" category="external" label="$$$/Custom/Panel/Property2 Name=<Property2 Name>" type="text"/>
</xmp_schema>
2. Put that propery file in Custom File Info Panels/4.0/panels (at the same place where DCIM.xml and mobile.xml is)
Following is the screen shot which I got after ZString insertion (CS6 Bridge)
If it doesn't work, could we do remote desktop?
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Aperture Metadata and Bridge Metadata

I am a photographer and my workflow is to import all my images into Aperture library and add metadata.
When exporting an image is it possible to integrate Apertures metadata with Bridge metadata? This is important feature as most people do not import images with Aperture. The issue is that many of the field names are different or non existent between the two programs. For example Location field in Bridge is Sub location in Aperture.
Can you add fields such contact info such as URL, email that are included within Bridge ITPC Metadata?
Is there a way to customize the metadata fields to work with CS3?

Unfortunatelly, not really.
I am currently using Nikon Transfer (latest version) to download the pictures from the camera. This software allows me to enter quite a number of IPTC data (including contact information, url, mail, phone, etc.), but maybe not all which are available in CS3.
Then I do import the pictures from the folder into Aperture where I only add contact information in the respective IPTC field. From the tests, I did I do know, that with this step I am using the "old IPTC standard" with Aperture and the new IPTC standard with Nikon Transfer. Clearly the newer is better and meets the needs you described.
In Aperture, I do only see the IPTC data fields, which are common between the two standards (copyright, keywords and description).
When I go to CS3 Bridge, I can see the IPTC data from both, but only of you turn on the "IPTC old" in the Photoshop Bridge settings.
This is how far I have come. I have tested the export with the original and the aperture work copy. As a test reader/viewer of the pics I used Photoshop Elements 5.0 ... but except the copyright information, key words and description, I could not find "my" IPTC data. So there was no contact info. This may be a problem of the old version, so I also checked on a windows PC the file properties (picture viewer), which has more or less the same information.
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Regards
Diethard

Zeiss Otus 1.4/85 ZE not listed in Bridge metadata

The latest release of Camera Raw 8.7 states that the Zeiss Otus 1.4/85 ZE is supported. Whilst in Camera Raw it is listed in the Lens Correction Tab, in Bridge the lens is just described as 85mm in the Metadata section. I also have the Zeiss Otus 1.4/55 ZE lens and this is correctly described in Bridge metadata.
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How to Delete Copyright Status in Bridge Metadata

I have added a copyright status field to bridges metadata by way of a metadata template. How can I delete the status copyrighted. I have made a metadata template with copyright set to unknown, but when I apply it in bridge in does not change the field. Any ideas?
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This should do it...
#target bridge
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copyUnknown = MenuElement.create("command", "Copyright to Unknown", "at the end of Thumbnail");
copyUnknown.onSelect = function () {
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function copyUnknownSet(){
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Can't edit artist name in bridge metadata

I want to change all references to artist name in my pictures to a different name. I tried creating a metadata template, but the only option to specify is 'date and time original'. It won't let me change anything else. Using CS6.
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Omke Oudeman wrote:
Anyone help, please?
This is data set in your camera, don't know what you are using but with Canon you can add your name as camera owner using Canon Utility software itself or on newer models even on the in camera software.
The artist name is showing the same name as camera owner.
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No longer able to view NEF files in Bridge or edit in Camera Raw 4.6

I have found similar questions in various Adobe forums, but I have not located a solution to my problem.
Bridge CS3
Photoshop CS3 Extended
XP
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Nikon D300s
Up until 2 weeks ago I have been copying my NEF files from my CF card via reader, opening Bridge, selecting thumbnail of NEF and opening it in Photoshop CS3. At which point I can process with Camera Raw 4.6.
Now, once new NEF files copied and Bridge opened, I only see NEF icons. When I double click the file, Photoshop opens and a box appears with the following text: Could not complete your request because it is not the right kind of document.
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What "application" is the metadata referring to? I think this may be a Nikon setting, but it would help me understand the problem better if I knew what "application" this is.
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Very grateful for your response and time.
The Application I am talking about can be found when you open up a NEF file in Bridge and look at the Metadata tab on the right. Within that is the File Properties tab and the Application Ver. is the 3rd item from the top (after Filename and Document Type).
Yes, I do have only the one ACR file (Camera Raw.8bi.) in the program file/COMMON FILE/Adobe/plug ins/cs3/file formats.
I have also realized (brilliantly late in the game) that it is only the NEF files shot from my new D300s that do not work. No problem with the NEF files shot with my D100. So this leads me to conclude that my Bridge/Photoshop CS3 does not support the Camera Raw 5 that seems to be required for the D300s. Argh.
By upgrading my camera equipment, I have outmoded my requisite software.
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I've changed my OS from XP to 7. After reinstalling software, Bridge CS4 no longer keeps my editing steps in the "edit history" metadata. The only steps recorded are that I've saved a file. I have the edit history box marked in preferences in both Bridge and PS, and have tried changing the metadata section in Preferences to session only, concise, and detailed. None of those choices make a difference. Any suggestions on how to get my edit history steps back in the metadata of Bridge? I use the edit history frequently! Thanks in advance!

Work through all of the steps (ideas) listed at http://ppro.wikia.com/wiki/Troubleshooting
If your problem isn't fixed after you follow all of the steps, report back with ALL OF THE DETAILS asked for in the FINALLY section, the questions at the end of the troubleshooting link... most especially the codec used... see Question 1
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Linking to Adobe Bridge Metadata info

I have images that I have added to a folder in Adobe Bridge.
I have added metadata (copyright, source etc...) to each image.
I need to track every image I use in an Access database so I
can view the thumbnail for the image in an .asp page. When I click
the thumbnail the larger image appears. This I have already done.
Now what I would like to do is have the larger image to
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Scott, I did have a go at this but I can't get the right path to the logComment in the XMP…
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Adobe CS3 Bridge - Metadata Problem

Hello,
Alot of my images (JPGs) seem to be losing their metadata, for example, if I keyword a bunch of pictures in bridge and save them. I go back the next day, and they are missing? Also when uploading to a website, if I put in copyright like this:
© Copright Name 2008
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Á© Copright Name 2008
Does anyone have any idea how, and why this is happening, and if there is a way to resolve this incredibly annoying problem.
If it's any relevance, I am seperating keywords with commas.

It should be possible to batch remove that using a metadata template where you set that particular field to be empty and then append that template to all your files (and of course, test on some random pics before doing something like this on all your images)

Extracting bridge metadata

After adding info to the metadata, such as city, sublocation, state, description, I have to enter all the same data to an MSwroks database that i then import into MSAccess.
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Hi Paul,.
I tried the script and it worked well for me, except the state/rrovince was blank. I think it must be from the category where the city and country wer before that didn't show.
Previously it was a very convoluted procedure for me to get the info to my Access database. I would first enter the info in MSWorks database, because of the time saver of the fill-down and fill series that MSAccess doesn't have. After entering all the info I would save it as a text file and import into Access after assigned the fields, some of which had to be modified slightly as one for example would such as slide # and the other slide_#, One I couldn't change and if I changed the other in ACCESS then all the queries and reports based on it would have to redone also.. I would get the fields to coincide and then do an append query to add to the main table.
I had only one location field when I set up the database, and not separate ones as in Bridge, so city, state and country would all be in the same field. I would only add country when it was not US which was seldom.
In anticipation of the ability to import the different location fields, I added city, state/province and country to the database, and then I spent about 8 hours creating hundreds of update queries, for each state, city and country to have the data of 166,000 records in the respective fields.
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hi there, i have been using keywords on all my tiffs so far, the recent batch, scanned in using a nikon coolscan v ed 35mm scanner, come in through vuescan (8.4.65) and then into photoshop (cs3) as usual. then i save the tiffs and when i browse in bridge (cs3) i usually right-click and get file info, and then add my keywords. something has changed and the tiffs, when i now right click on them, do not have a file info option. please advise? is there a certain type of file that cannot have metadata? i'm on a macbook pro, os x 10.4.11
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