Bridge mode for Airport Express or DSL modem?

I bought a new DSL modem (Netgear Broadband ADSL modem DM111PSP) to replace my old Westell. I also bought the new Aiport Express station (2012 model) to create the WiFI network at home. At the moment, the AE is in Bridge mode so that the DSL modem is on PPPoE to be the one assigning IP's for 3 portable Macs (2 on Wifi and 1 on Powerline->Ethernet). My ISP is AT&T.
I wonder if anyone can answer my following questions:
1) When Apple claims that the AE can support up to 50 concurrent users using the Internet, does that also apply to the AE in Bridge mode?
2) Can my ISP detect the fact that I have 3 computers with the current setup and start charging me more?
3) What will happen if I put the modem in Bridge mode and AE in PPPoE? Can my ISP still track the same info in (2)?
Thank you so much.
My computers (1 MacBook Pro and 2 MacBooks) are all on OS 10.6.8.
Gary

I thought AE cannot assign IP's once in Bridge mode.
That is correct. DHCP and NAT services are turned off when the AirPort Is configured in Bridge Mode.
If both modem and AE assign IP, would that create 'Double NAT' error?
Correct. Either the modem/router has to be in Bridge Mode and the AirPort handles DHCP and NAT.....or.....the modem/router handles DHCP and NAT and the AirPort is set up in Bridge Mode.
There are upsides and downsides to either approach. The simplest setup is to let the modem/router handle DHCP and NAT and configure the AirPort in Bridge Mode.
However, if you were planning to use the Guest Network feature of the new AirPort Express, then the modem/router must be configured in Bridge Mode and and the AirPort handles the DHCP and NAT.

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I'm back and wanted to put a coda on this thread.
First of all, many thanks to the recommendations by Tesserax and LaPastenague. You helped allay my fears in converting over to the Time Capsule environment.
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