Bridge or extend network using Apple TC & Extreme?

I have the following setup:
Uverse router (wifi off) -> Apple Time Capsule (creating wireless) -> Imac through ethernet
From the TC, there is a powerline adapter, which on the other end connects to a 4 port hub and other ethernet devices.
Accessing any of the devices at the end of the powerline kit is slow, as is transferring files to/from one end or another through the A/V kit.
Would I be better off Creating a wifi network on the uverse router, connecting that via ethernet to my Imac and to the powerline kit. Then on the other end of the powerline kit, have the TC set up in bridge mode with the same wifi information and just get rid of the 4 port USB hub?
Or, should I consider picking up an apple express to create the wireless network and connect my Imac, and move the TC in to place as an extender of the AE wifi network?
Would would give the best performance and ability to move files to/from the Imac and the devices that are on the end of the 4 port hub, besides running an ethernet cable (not an option) directly to them?

A media player, TV, A/V Receiver and PS3.
The Uverse router cannot be moved as it is connected to the only telephone outlet available.

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Welcome to the discussions Daniel!
1) Use the 2.4Ghz radio to connect to the Dlink wireless network using wireless-n.
No
2) Use the 5Ghz radio to create a new wireless network using wireless-n.
Yes if you connect the AirPort Extreme to the D-Link using an ethernet cable
3) Have all of my MacBooks (using wireless-n 5ghz) connect to the 5Ghz network
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will the MacBooks have access to the internet?
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The ideal setup would have the AirPort Extreme and TC connecting together using a wired Ethernet connection.
Next best might be a setup using Ethernet powerline adapters to send the Ethernet signal over the existing AC powerlines in your home. The theory here is good, but in practice, things may not work quite as well as the theory suggests. Some users have good luck with this approach, while others....like me.....don't have much success.
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Your printer has wireless capablities so has an IP adress. Does a USB printer have an IP address? I don't think so, but if it does, please tell me how to find out what it is - maybe that is my problem; I didn't need this info when I was using the Express as a print server. (Maybe I just need to buy another Express and use it as a print server and forget about using the USB port on the Extreme...defeats the purpose of getting the Extreme in the first place, but at least I could stop wasting my time with all of this!)
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Resetting an AirPort Base Station or Time Capsule FAQ
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I would like to create a sub-network using my Airport Extreme for my suite only that uses the wifi signal from our office building and provides internet to the computers (both wired and wireless) in my suite but have it protected so that other suites in my building can't see my computers.
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As for wireless only....you could probably do what you want by using two Apple routers....an AirPort Express to join the wireless network and provide an Ethernet signal to the AirPort Extreme's WAN port. Then the AirPort Extreme could then be configured to provide a separate network using a different subnet.
Users on the "main" network would not be able to "see" any devices on your "private" network and vice versa.
I use the two router set up all the time at hotels that only provide a wireless signal. The first Express "joins" the wireless network and feeds an Ethernet signal to the second AirPort which is configured to "create a wireless network" in router mode.
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The extended AE seems to fall off the Network and I have to unplug it, to reset it, more often than I would like.
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Users often forget that when you have an extended network using wireless, that the "extending" device....the AirPort Extreme in your case....can only "extend" the quality of signal that it receives. As you may have guessed, a better term for "extender" would be "repeater".
The fact that you are experiencing drops on the AirPort Extreme tells us that the AirPort Extreme is likely.....
1) located too far away from the Time Capsule,
2) there are too many obstructions in the signal path between the Time Capsule and AirPort Extreme,
3) the network is picking up wireless interference from other RF sources, or
4) a combination of any of 1), 2), or 3) is at work.
If the AirPort Extreme is having trouble picking up a good quality signal from the Time Capsule, then any other device that you might install in place of the AirPort Extreme will likely have problems as well.
Since wireless is always half science and half voodoo, there is always a possibility that a new AirPort Extreme might work a bit better than the current AirPort that is extending, so keeping in mind that Apple provides a 14 day return privilege, you could take a chance and try a new Extreme to see if that might improve things.
This is known as the "try it and see" approach. Another approach might be to try to investigate some of the reasons why the current AirPort Extreme is having problems, to see if the performance can be improved.
Please let us know how you would like proceed.

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The problem with extending using a wireless connection between the Time Capsule and AirPort Extreme is this.......
The extender can only "extend" the speed of signal that it receives. The signal starts to lose speed as soon as it leaves the Time Capsule, and the signal will lose quite a bit of speed as it passes through the ceiling due to the thick construction. The ceiling presents what is known as "interference" to the wireless signal.
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If you install an AirPort Extreme on the main floor, the signal upstairs will be stronger than it is now, and depending on how many obstructions there are between the AirPort Extreme and the upstairs area, the signal may be noticeably faster upstairs than it is now as well.
With wireless connections between devices, there are always so many compromises and variables involved that it is just not possible to predict what the actual performance might be in your home until you try things out in your home. For that reason, it is always a good idea to understand the store's return policy in advance in case a new item does not deliver the performance that you are hoping to achieve.
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The performance upstairs will improve as well, since the AirPort Extreme has a full speed signal to broadcast....not the slower speed signal that would receive from the Time Capsule if it connects using wireless.
If you want to achieve the same type of performance upstairs that you have in the basement and main floor, then you will need to pull an additional Ethernet cable up to the upstairs floor and add another AirPort there.
That would probably be the "best" wireless network system that you could install if you are looking at all the options. Few of us are lucky enough to be able to install the "best" network, but those that are receive remarkable wireless performance in return for their investment.

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