Bridging and/or extending 2 wireless routers connected to 2 different modems?

I am begining to think this is not possible but wanted to clear this here before I gave up.
In my network
I have my base AirPort Extreme connected to a modem at one end of the house.
I have an airpot express which is extending the network and connected to a speaker for playing music. ( not really pertinent)
At the other end of the house, I have another Airport Extreme connected by ethernet cable to a different modem.
What I am starting to realize, if this is correct, is that #3 is not actually using the ethernet connection to boost the signal. Its simply extending my base Airport Extreme. As shown below. Is this right?
I'm curious to know if I can keep #3 connected to that modem and/ or bridge to the other router to create a roaming network? Basically, I am trying to optimize my signal with the second connection to the modem. Diagram below illustrates this.
I have been searching for a while with no success and wondering if someone has tried this or if its simply not possible. I am aware of bridging that utilzes the same modem. However I want to use a different one as illustrated above.
Thanks for any and all help.

As it stands now #3 is extending the network.
But it is not, because it can't....even if it did not have a modem connected.
You can only extend an Apple network one time. The AirPort Express is already doing that. It is not possible to have #3 extend the signal again wirelessly.....even if you wanted to do that.
If you located #3 about the same distance from the main AirPort Extreme.....and closer to the AirPort Extreme than to the AirPort Express....then it could be setup to extend the network wirelessly.
Apple's extend setup works like the hub and spokes of a wheel. Your "main" AirPort Extreme is the "hub". Other extending devices are located at the ends of separate "spokes".
Each extender must connect directly to the hub......not to another extender at the end of another spoke.
So, the ideal setup would have the "main" router (hub) located near the center of your home.....and then other extending devices could be located in different directions (spokes) around the perimenter or outer areas of the home.

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I appreciate your help. I understand now that Time Machine is software. What I do not understand is it software to be used with Time Capsule? Another device?
Apple intends Time Machine to be used to write its backup files to (a) a directly-connected (as via USB or FireWire) external or secondary internal disk or (b) the disk in a Time Capsule. All other configurations are officially unsupported.
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