Bringing back person to position relationships of a particular Org unit

Dear Gurus,
Do let me know how can I bring back person to position relationships of a particular Org unit only. I had used transaction code RHINTE00 but it executes for the whole structure. Please guide me through this.
Regards,
Aks

Dear Friends,
Actually this is not about one or two positions, there are 100 to 200 positions involved. This situation arises when I create a new org structure as well as new positions & transport it from development to production server and the relationship between old positions & their holders gets vanished in org structure in production server. Usually I use the transaction code RHINTE00 to bring back the same. But what i need is a transaction code by which I can bring back those relationships in batch input method.
Regards,
Aks

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