Broadband drops 'out' more than 'in' - OpenReach a...

First, forgive me if a similar problem has been posted; I've had to resort to a 2G O2 dongle & speeds are so bad that I can't search the forum. For weeks (months?) now I've had terrible broadband connectivity - sometimes going for days without a connection lasting for more than 2 or 3 seconds. Sometimes we get up to 5 days of great connectivity with speeds of 1mbps and then (as now) days with no useable broadband at all.
We've had our line changed from the exchange, we've had a new master socket installed, we've tried 3 different routers - and each time it's the same... it works fine while the engineer is here, and then it drops 24-48 hours after he leaves. When we do get an appointment sod's law says that all is working fine.
Symptoms are that the DSL light flashes nearly all the time and about once every 5 minutes it goes solid. The internet light goes green momentarily, or sometimes goes red, or generally goes out again. If we do get a connection then any attempt to use it sees it drop out almost immediately.
The phone line works.
Routers used - Netgear DG834 v4, but we've also tried a BT Voyager and an old 2wire BT Business router. All are programmed with the correct usernames and passwords - as demonstrated by the fact that we sometimes get days of good connectivity.
Anyone got any bright ideas? All appreciated!
Thanks.
P.S. OpenReach due back here again Tuesday, by which time it will probably be on its 'good' cycle of working again...

Thanks. Sure - stats are below. I've tried the quiet line test and all seems quiet:
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Account Name
Firmware Version V5.01.01
ADSL Port MAC Address 00:1E:2A:ED:9C:B3
IP Address ---
Network Type PPPoA
IP Subnet Mask ---
Gateway IP Address ---
Domain Name Server ---
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IP Address 192.168.0.1
DHCP On
IP Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
Modem ADSL Firmware Version A2pB023b.d20e
Modem Status Negotiating
DownStream Connection Speed 0 kbps
UpStream Connection Speed 0 kbps
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Sorry to be a pain but I am back here again.
Since the last issue with speed, connection drop out and noisey line which required an underground cable to be partly replaced, all has been fantastic and no problem to report. Many thanks to those who were involved in helping with getting that issue resolved.
About 10 days ago the broadband started to drop out at random times but not too often. The broadband hub light would go out for about 15 seconds before returning. My connection would automatically resume and no great problem. It has since become more of a problem and pain.
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Each time the hub drops broadband and I can auto connect and do not press any hub button, the timer has reset to zero days and zero hours. I know it takes about a week for the connection to settle. I do wonder if these drop outs are messing the connection settings for my line speed? The line used to be rated at 21 Mbps but has decreased to 17 Mbps, my actual connection used to be 19 Mbps but struggles to reach 14 Mbps. It is slowly dropping with each and every drop out.
I also looked at the event log in the hub. Just before each broadband drop out I see a external connection is made with the initials 'CWMP' followed by 'event code 1 boot' or 'event code 6 connection request' or 'event code 4 value change'. Straight after the broadband connection drops out with out fail.
All I can seem to find out is that the external connection is either the hub connecting to the server or vice versa? As for the codes? I have no idea at all.
I only ever resort to pressing 'restart' if I cannot connect to my hub. I have only pressed the 'reset' as a last resort as nothing else worked to allow me to reconnect.
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I connected to the test socket and used a wired connection for the speed test and hub stats.
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Since my last post I have checked the event log and 'CWMP' has made at least two remote connections but the hub did not drop broadband connection. The broadband has been stable but just slower than usual, as you stated due to the drop outs/disconnections.
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