Broadband network extended with 2 extremes - ip allocation issue

Hi,
I have the following set up at home. Cable provider router connected to Airport Time Capsule (4th gen) (bridge mode) and a further Airport Extreme (4th gen) extending the bridged network. Everything should be on a 192.168.0.X network.
The problem I am having is that the Airport Extreme is at times assigning a 192.168.1.X IP address to some of the devices which connect wirelessly - for example my iPhone 6 Plus. The devices on the 192.168.1.0 subnet cannot communicate with anything else and therefore do not have internet access.
Has anyone ever seen this behaviour before, and if so is there a way to fix this?
Thanks,
Richard

So to give a bit of background I used to be a Cisco engineer so have a reasonable understanding of networking
I tried resetting everything and starting from scratch before posting... Screenshots from both the Time Capsule and the Airport Extreme config below.
There is a slightly unrelated post at Airport Extreme Bridge mode which talks about disconnecting the WAN port on the Time Capsule when initially setting up the network. I can't see how this should change things but will try that now and see who it goes...

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katiel021 wrote:
Hello, sorry if this isn't posted in the correct area. I'm new to this community and couldn't find a Network Extender specific category.
Background: I live in a "low spot" and have shoddy phone service in my home. As a result, I purchased a Network Extender about 1.5 years ago.
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Question: If I increase my broadband internet speed to perhaps a 10 or 12 Mbps will this help with the strength of the Network Extender and prevent calls getting choppy and/or dropped?
Also, I should add that my current internet service is advertised as a 768 Kbps but speed tests say it's 1.0 Mbps. Also - between my husband and I we've had several different phones on the extender and all are the same so I don't believe it's phone-device related.
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