Broadband speed near Haverfordwest.
Hi All, We've been BTBB customers for five or so years now and I'm thinking of moving on. We're constantly bombarded with TV ads for Infinity when we live in an area where 0.4mbps is the norm and often it is less (today web surfing is incredibly slow) I have researched and tried everything offered - wired connection instead of wireless, BT face plate filter, dumping the hub, router settings. Nothing makes any difference. To make matters worse it seems that prospective customers are being told they can expect 1 - 3.5mbps connection speeds in our area, whereas two different independent checkers and another provider are all suggesting that 1mbps max can be achieved at our distance (3.3km) from the exchange. I would really appreciate any good advice here to keep me from moving to a much cheaper provider, if we are going to get poor service due to being a 'low priority area' then I would rather pay a lower rate than what we are paying now. Thanks Astrum
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in order for the forum members to help please can you post the adsl stats from your router may need to 'show detail' to get all stats (if hub enter 192.168.1.254 in your browser and navigate to adsl or use a-z, if netgear enter 192.168.0.1) and run btspeedtester (MAC users may have problems) bt speedtester and post the results .
are you connected directly via a filter to the NTE5 master or test socket or to somewhere else? Is the master the only phone socket in your home?
Have you tried the quiet line test? - dial 17070 option 2 - should hear nothing - best done with a corded phone. if cordless phone you may hear a 'dull hum' which is normal
Someone may then be able to offer help/assistance/suggestions to your problem
if you enter your attenuation from your router here then that will gicve an indication of connection speed which you may expect
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Difference between BT Broadband Speed Test and all...
I have recently moved to BT Broadband from TalkTalk as I was dissatisfied with the speeds that I was getting with my TalkTalk line – they were OK outside of peak time but woeful in peak time. With TalkTalk, I was on their ‘up to’ 8Mbps which, in practice, translated to about 6Mbps for download outside peak times but dropped to below 1 Mbps in peak (around 500Kbps and sometimes even lower!) – these measurements were taken regularly with both the TalkTalk and Think Broadband speed tests which were usually roughly in agreement and I haven’t had to rely on memory as I downloaded the spreadsheet records available to Think Broadband registered users.
I am now posting this in the hope that somebody can explain the difference between the BT Broadband Speed Checker (Here) and all the others available on the web.
When you are first connected to BT Broadband they warn you that your speeds will vary over the first ten days while they test your line to ascertain optimum speeds for it. During that time, I checked it every day early, mid-day and evening (usually around 0630, 1230 & 2000 hrs) with Think Broadband and, yes, it did vary – the first day it started at around 1Mbps for download but rose to 10Mbps by the end of the day. On the second day, it rose to a peak of 17.8Mbps which was unbelievably fast to use (well, to me anyway) but never reached that speed again as over the rest of the ‘test period’, the download speed dropped and dropped to the point where I am now outside of the BT test period and consistently seeing only 2 to 2.5Mbps over a 24 hour period.
I emphasise that those speeds were all recorded using Think Broadband but I am now doing tests using the BT checker mentioned above and the speeds which BT indicate for downloads are consistently in the 14 to 18 Mbps range. If I do the BT and TB test in quick succession, they generally show the BT calculated speed to be better than that of TB by a factor of around 7 (ie. TB at 2 Mbps whilst BT show 14Mbps). Now either they are measuring different things (or the sams things differently) or one of them is lying – all I know is that my general browsing experience is slower outside of peak times and I can tell by the time it takes to load pages.
I might have misunderstood something in these tests but I am now beginning to regret that I fell I for the BT sales pitch which promised me ‘up to’ 20 Mbps but ‘more likely’ 17 Mbps. I have tried to discuss thisl with BT Broadband technical support but they were no use whatsoever – indeed, I got the impression that he was reading from a script and as it didn’t cover my issue, I was wasting my time – it would also have helped for English to be his first language!
According to the BT test, I am well within their ‘minimum guaranteed access speed’ (Here). for my area (about 4Mbps) and therefore cannot do anything about it. BUT that is only when measured using the BT speed tester – with any other, I am well below. I am beginning to feel very conned and might even start looking to withdraw from BT if I cannot get this settled.
Can anybody help. I will happily post detailed records of my various tests or router stats if they will help.
Thanks in advance.OK, I have now done all the tests etc. And here are the results:
ADSL Line Status from HomeHub 3
Connection Information
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
0 days, 00:27:11
Downstream:
23.71 Mbps
Upstream:
1.176 Mbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type:
Fast
Noise margin (Down/Up):
3.4 dB / 6.4 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
5.3 dB / 2.1 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
19.4 dBm / 11.6 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
0 / 0
CRC Events (Down/Up):
41 / 24
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
HEC Events (Down/Up):
20 / 7
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
61 / 13
BT Speed Test Result
Download Speed: 6.59Mbps
Acceptable Range: 4Mbps - 21 Mbps
IP Profile: 21.42Mbps
Upload Speed: 0.99Mbps
Upstream IP Profile: 0.83 Mbps
Think Broadand Speed Test
Download Speed: 1.8 Mbps
Upload Speed: 0.9 Mbps
Uswitch Speed Test
Dowload Speed: 1.7 Mbps
Upload Speed: 0.9 Mbps
For what it's worth, I followed the guidelines for the BT test and took all of the tests within a 10 minute period.
All I know is that my daytime BT connection is nowhere near as fast as I had from TalkTalk. Indeed, it was not even quick enough to watch non-HD YouTube videos earlier this morning without freezing to buffer. -
My Broadband speed is nowhere near what is advertised.
Is there anything I can do to improve things?
BT Home Hub 3
ADSL Line Status
Connection information
Line state: Connected
Connection time: 12 days, 15:45:27
Downstream: 5,184 Kbps
Upstream: 448 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI: 0/38
Type: PPPoA
Modulation: G.992.1 Annex A
Latency type: Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up): 7.8 dB / 17.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up): 48.5 dB / 31.0 dB
Output power (Down/Up): 19.3 dBm / 12.6 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up): 36918351 / 3940
CRC Events (Down/Up): 64685 / 3271
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 11
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 5 / 11
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): 0
HEC Errors (Down/Up): 763004 / 3343
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Broadband Speed Test
at 11:20 14th March 2014
From Exchange 5.18Mb
At PC Download 4.54Mb
Upload 0.36Mb
Quiet Line Test is quiet, no noise.
Master Socket is where the phone line enters the house.
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your conenction speed appears about what I would expect for someone with an attenuation of 48/49db on adslmax
your download speed appears consistent with your connection speed suggesting that your ip profile is correct
check speed here
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Re: Broadband Speed Problem? Please Read This & Post Requested Details
my broadband speed is so slow, we eventually got connected after 3 months and tens of phone calls and ever since the broadband is unusable!! phone the help line today and he tels me we have 2.7mbs and failed to understand that I don't!! we are only getting 0.2mbs download. please help me! i'm regretting switching from BT and will have no option but to switch back as customer service is terrible at EE. ADSL STATUSThis page shows information about your ADSL connection if applicable.Status
Configured Current Line Status --- SHOWTIME Link Type --- Interleaved Path Operation Mode Automatic G992.3(ADSL2) Data Rate Information
Stream Type Actual Data Rate Upstream 1005 (Kbps.) Downstream 283 (Kbps.) Defect/Failure Indication
Operation Data Upstream Downstream Noise Margin 6.4 dB 10.9 dB Line Attenuation 32.6 dB 52.5 dB Indicator Name Near End Indicator Far End Indicator Output Power 12.8 dBm 0.0 dBm Fast Path FEC Correction NA NA Interleaved Path FEC Correction 359 11 Fast Path CRC Error NA NA Interleaved Path CRC Error 0 0 Loss of Signal Defect 6 0 Fast Path HEC Error STR NA NA Interleaved Path HEC Error 0 0 Error Seconds 97 28 Statistics
Received Cells 8557 Transmitted Cells 4603:
You should be syncing at about 4 Meg. The reason you are not is that the DLM system has put you on a banded profile in response to past errors on your line, the lowest of these Banded Profiles, altho' you now have no significant errors. You need to call EE to reset the DLM in order to remove any banding. However should significant errors persist the DLM will reapply banding. -
My broadband speed has dropped from a steady 6 mbp...
hello I would like to talk or email a BT moderator, I have been having broadband speed issues the last week, I recently renewed my broadband contract with BT to option 3, I have always received a steady 6mbps, even though I live in a rural area, I live near my local exchange, I think there may be some kind of fault on my line, I have checked my broadband speed regularly and also the BT website status notice of faults, I have checked my router, my telephone socket etc, wonder if a BT moderator customer services person could help me with this matter, I'm not a heavy downloader, mostly bbc iplayer stuff, my network is secure, I scan my pc everyday for virus's etc.
Kind regards
Davidto get assistance and before you email the mods you need to post some router stats to illustrate your problem - can you post the adsl stats from your router may need to 'show detail' to get all stats (if hub enter 192.168.1.254 in your browser and navigate to adsl or use a-z) and run btspeedtester http://speedtester.bt.com and post the results.
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Hello, my family have been with BT for a good 5 years now and haven't had many problems at all. We are using the BT Home Hub 2.0, and have been so for about 3 years. The broadband speed is generally very good and I have had no reason to complain at all, however we encountered a problem which began about a week ago. Last week the broadband began to slow down and cut out every 5 minutes or so for a whole day, so I thought to switch the Hub off at the wall overnight as it may help. I switched it back on in the morning and sure enough it had stopped cutting out, BUT now the broadband speed seems to have dropped hugely. I use the wireless to play Xbox and for my computer to do work and watch the occasional YouTube video but am being forced to not be able to watch or do any work as the speed is that bad. The only devices connected to the Hub are my computer, my brother's and my Dad's iPod, and also the main family computer when it is in use (barely ever). However these have always been connected so it can't be any problems with these that have caused the broadband to slow down. Does anyone have any idea what could have occured to trigger this problem, and how I may be able to sort it?
Thankyou.
This is my ADSL line status as of now:
Connection Information
Line state
Connected
Connection time
1 days, 06:48:53
Downstream
287 Kbps
Upstream
440 Kbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI
0/38
Type
PPPoA
Modulation
G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up)
22.2 dB / 29.3 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up)
20.6 dB / 8.5 dB
Output power (Down/Up)
11.4 dBm / 1.3 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote)
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote)
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote)
0 / 0
FEC Errors (Down/Up)
28894 / 0
CRC Errors (Down/Up)
2 / 0
HEC Errors (Down/Up)
2 / 0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote)
2 / 0Unfortunately the connection has not changed one bit and it has been nearly a week now, you said to return to this thread if I still have a problem so here I am! Do you know what could possibly be wrong?
Here is my ADSL line status as of now:
ADSL line status
Connection Information
Line state
Connected
Connection time
6 days, 05:56:19
Downstream
287 Kbps
Upstream
440 Kbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI
0/38
Type
PPPoA
Modulation
G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up)
23.1 dB / 29.2 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up)
20.6 dB / 8.5 dB
Output power (Down/Up)
11.7 dBm / 1.3 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote)
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote)
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote)
0 / 0
FEC Errors (Down/Up)
62300 / 0
CRC Errors (Down/Up)
13 / 0
HEC Errors (Down/Up)
19 / 0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote)
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Broadband Speed - So Slow Its Unuseable
I need some advice on how to tackle my current broadband speed problems with BT; if there is indeed an answer? Before i begin I will state that I am a rural customer many miles from the exchange and I do not expect proper broadband speed, i always had a slow connection but I just want what I got before.
I was achieving about 95kb/s connection since I signed up with BT last April (woes of getting that done and removing the DAX on the line are on another thread somewhere on this forum) which is terrible but what I accepted and paid over my cash for and it has been consistent at that speed since then. However, for the last 2 weeks its now dropped to an average speed of 29kb/s.
Since April my router had only been rebooted twice duce to powercuts and it had never dropped the connection, however slow it may be, so its not excessive rebooting effecting the line. Noise however has gone through the roof. Noise margin is now displaying at 9.1db and the line attenutation is 69.3db... Before the drop off this was never good but around the 7db margin level with about 60db attenuation on on the down line. The sync rate has also dropped from nearly 2 Mbps to 1.063. Full stats from router settings here:
Connection Information
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
5 days, 03:51:27
Downstream:
1.063 Mbps
Upstream:
448 Kbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.1 Annex A
Latency type:
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up):
9.1 dB / 12.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
69.3 dB / 31.5 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
15.9 dBm / 11.9 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
1701042 / 2613
CRC Events (Down/Up):
36437 / 379
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
HEC Events (Down/Up):
15842 / 321
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
19843 / 352
I'm connected to the master socket with a Openreach fitted BT ADSL faceplate. I've tried connecting to the router both wireless and wired with no difference to performance. I contacted BT by phone 5 days ago and went through the usual reboot the router etc ordeal. They then agreed to reset the line but that has made no difference, if they did indeed do anything at all?
Running the speedtest from http://www.speedtester.bt.com my results are as follows:
Download Speed (Mbps): 0.31
Upload Speed (Mbps): 0.36
Ping Latency (ms): 41.38
I know it sounds paranoid but the same day this dropped off I saw on the way to work an Openreach van working in the village on the roadside cabinet. Just seems that there has been some alteration to their infrastructure locally and its taken my connection from bloomin slow to unusable..
Ideas?Yeah i realise my profile is correct for my connection speed. But in real world terms dropping from 80kb/s into the 20s makes a major difference to useabilty. If you were on some infinity connection or even a 8mbps max connection you wouldn't even notice but when thats all you have it makes a mockery of the money you are sending to BT each month/
I Shall go through the old favourite of contacting a mod then. Check my old thread Johjn46 where you and I went through this procedure with getting me signed up and things with mods never worked out as you promised they would
http://community.bt.com/t5/BB-Speed-Connection-Issues/Activating-Broadband-Ongoing-Nothingness/td-p/...
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From the old forum.... Slow broadband speeds in th...
FROM THE OLD FORUM Original post by John Jorgensen...
Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 9:17 AM
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Hi,
I have had bt broadband opt3 for almost 3 months now and have always had a healthy 9mb+ connection, however have noticed it being very slow in the evening when I come home from work, I checked the speed last nite as iplayer was constantly freezing and was getting 1mb . A bit upset by this as I got bt broadband to play my ps3 online and to get faster speeds on my laptop, and I use these services mostly at nite.
I checked my speed this morning and was getting 11mb, is this normal or am I being capped I cant believe Id be going over my download limit. Can someone from bt get back to me on this?
Thanks
John
alison griffiths
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Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 11:22 AM in response to: John Jorgensen in response to: John Jorgensen
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Welcome to the world of BT , the tv advert when he says " business slow" when trying to load a webpage is not other companies thats BT.
John Jorgensen
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Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 12:11 PM in response to: alison griffiths in response to: alison griffiths
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Yes Alison, I think I can see that now. I wouldnt mind if broadband was a bit slower at peak times, I know thats normal, but when I'm only getting 1mb when my max is 14mb, I just dont feel I'm getting what I pay for. And when it gets to the point where I cant watch iplayer without it stuttering everywhere and online games lagging on the ps3, this is certainly not what I'm paying for.
I was hoping one of the mods here would help me and check my line and see if there is any cap on the line and get it removed.
I really dont wanna phone India, I deal with them 5 days a week as is...
Think I will just send one of the mods an email to check my line and see if it is being capped or if somethings wrong.
anthony dickerson
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Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 3:52 PM in response to: John Jorgensen in response to: John Jorgensen
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You will never get decent speeds on Iplayer,
BT limit it because they want you to subscribe to their precious BT Vision service.
The only way you are guaranteed to get decent speeds on BT is to subscibe to BT Vision and also unlimited broadband.
Then you will get priority when you stream TV at your exchange unlike fighting it out with all the other broadband users as you currently are for the available bandwith.the more over subscribed your local exchange the worse it is
Paddy B Mod
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Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 23, 2010 2:04 PM in response to: anthony dickerson in response to: anthony dickerson
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Hi John,
I can take a look at the network side of things for you, to see if there is anything I can do to help improve your speed during peak periods. Please could you drop me an email with your BT account details? Please also include a link to this thread. It would also be very helpful if you could run a few speed tests using www.speedtester.bt.com when you feel your Broadband is running slow. I can then check those results from here.
Thanks
Paddy
BT Forum Moderator - [email protected] - if you're emailing please include a link to your thread so I can reference back to it.
Mateusz Sokolin...
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Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 24, 2010 7:33 PM in response to: John Jorgensen in response to: John Jorgensen
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Well John i'll tell you what it is...
First of all welcome to BT and I hope you'll enjoy 18months of pain and suffer.
OK here it goes....
If you look at your contract, find a rule that says Fair Usage Policy.
Basically it states that BT will cap anyone that is abusing their lines.
However, it does not say what are the limits after which you are going to be capped for how long and at what times. (I'll come back to this later and explain)
If you ring 08007076044 I'm sure that someone will confirm my theory. As constant 1MBit between 6PM till 11/12 PM is actually FUP applied on to your account.
Ok time to explain my frustration about FUP.
Since I signed my contract with "lovely" BT for constant 4 months I had similar issue but it took me even longer to find out what is going on and how to deal with this problem (thanks to google).
FUP team states that if you exceed 100GB in a month (everyone will admit that these days 100GB is nothing when a single game for PS3/XBox360/PC sometimes is more than 5GB and 1080p film is about 12GB) will cap you for a month at peak times to outstanding and superfast 1Mbit (about 130-150KB/s).
I'be been watching my download and for few months never exceeded that 100GB in a month. Been ringing FUP team to verify when suddenly they told me that from (cant remember exactly) March FUP will apply only to accounts that are using Torrents and other P2P.
you won't believe how happy I was hearing that.... So i've started to download and next month guess what.... 1Mbit connection.
Really mad rang FUP team and asked them what on earth is going on. They confirmed that its only P2P and I've explained them that I only use Youtube, BBC iPlayer, Rapidshare, Steam and XBox Live, Beatport (just don't understand how ppl can use torrents and other P2P as they are just way to slow). So they were happy to take the cap off my broadband connection.
Next month same issue solved exactly the same way.
After that for consecutive few months I had no problem whatsoever until September where FUP Team said that there is no such thing and FUP applies to everyone.
So just want to say that BT is rubbish that can't keep their word.
I went to one of the sales advisor in the shopping centre and asked him how FUP works as it does not say in the contract "how, when, who and what".
So he said that policy is applied based on amount of files downloaded within that 100GB. So if I download e.g. 3x 50GB (although its 150GB altogether) files I wont be affected but 100x 1GB will put a cap on me.
I've been so curious if what he said was right and started to download 2x 60GB and guess what... Got frigging FUP placed on my account!!!.
I've got 2months left with them and will be extremely happy to cancel my contract, moreover, I will do everything in my power to sue them under EU Consumer Rights Law (that states that contract should be clear and fair to both sides) as Fair Usage Policy is one of those things that allows BT to do anything they want to their customers;
1. No clear explanation of what FUP is.
2. Does not states the amount of downloaded data required to have cap on the acount
3. Does not states for how long it will be applied
4. Does not states when it will be applied
If you look at e.g. Virgin Broadband everything is clearly written in nice and understandable way. It warns you at what times FUP will be applied under what circumstances and for how long. Isn't it what we all want to know??
Alex Owen
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Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 24, 2010 9:35 PM in response to: Mateusz Sokolin... in response to: Mateusz Sokolin...
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@Mateusz I think I maybe a victim of this outragous stint BT have done. I have 2 XBOX 360's running on XBOX Live, 2 Desktop PCs connected to the web constantly, and 3 laptops, we have a torrent sharing running and World Of Warcraft on one of the PCs. All of this is shared across a 6 person family. How can a family where two members goto to college and university do their college ork, download application such as VB.net do their coursework and revise without the hassle of a **** connection. Seriously BT get your ******* head outta your **** and stop this ********, we are customers, we pay for what we are offered. When I signed up several years ago I could download everything on the net woithout infracions on my line being set in motion. You altered my contract without telling me. You will lose custom from this. Also you have ****** my wireless
Edited by: Alex Owen on Jan 24, 2010 9:36 PM
amanda jones
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Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 25, 2010 8:42 PM in response to: Alex Owen in response to: Alex Owen
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You lot are lucky, We wish we could be capped to 1mbit. Our IP profile is capped to 500kbit because BT say the line isn't good enough for anything more. We are paying for option3 up to 8mbit and BT have said we must continue to pay for it for the remainder of the contract, or buy ourselves out of it early, the reason they give.... Up to 8mbit means up to 8mbit. If you dont get 8mbit then TOUGH LUCK SUCKERS!!
The outcome? We feel like we've been turned over by a dodgey second hand car salesman called BT. The internet deal he flogged us was a dog, a ringer, it wasn't cosher and certainly had a false MOT certificate.
Computer Geek
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Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 25, 2010 8:49 PM in response to: amanda jones in response to: amanda jones
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Hi Amanda,
Why have you joined BT Option 3 when you can not get what BT can offer?
No pun intended but you are a bit of a sucker for paying high prices where other suppliers are cheaper and can provide what your line can support.
CG
amanda jones
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Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 26, 2010 9:13 PM in response to: Computer Geek in response to: Computer Geek
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we moved house last october to this one, the connection was rubbish from the get-go, BT said the router was broken and we needed a new one, we said OK. That "OK" meant that we had entered into a new contract for option 3 same as out old one. The router wasn't broken, the new one didnt fix or improve the problem, we have since asked for a price reduction or compensation and been told "no". we are in contract and can pay to buy ourselves out of it if we like but otherwise we have to pay for option 3 and recieve fixed rate 500kb.
Clare Thurston
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Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 27, 2010 11:57 AM in response to: amanda jones in response to: amanda jones
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Hi Amanda,
I think you'll find that the Hold To Term rules have changed. BT are now unable to charge you for the account if you no longer require it. It is against OFCOM's rulings for a company to make more money out of you as a leaving customer than an existing one. However, You will need to pay for the connection charge (if that has not expired it's original differed contract) which is £40. A cancellation fee of £25 if you are simply cancelling and not migrating using a MAC key and for any hardware. The Routers are advertised at £88 and i would suggest that if they believed on to be faulty then that would be replaced under guarantee and not be put on a differed basis. I would check exactly what they say the are charging you and query this through OFCOM. http://www.ofcom.org.uk/Months of impecable service form BT as an option 3 customer. (I've even recommended BT to people)
but
For the past 2 weeks peak traffic has murdered my connection.
I can get 14mbit off peak, and it used to drop to about 7-9 at peak times.
Now its down to 1-2mbit at peak times. (no i haven't breached FUP as I check my btinternet inbox for the 80GB warning)
I think its resonable to experience drop off but 90%!!!
BT advertising says fast speeds at peak times. less than 2mbit is not fast. (that the governments minimum standard!!!)
I don't know how to procede because when I'm experiencing these issues if I ring up I will end up waiting so long to speak to someone (because its peak time) the concection wiill be better again.
I can think of no recourse other than to approach trading standards...
Guarnetee me 5mbit at peak times (enough to stream HD iplayer) and I'd be happy
That is what BT vision customers are in essence are getting + what ever their PC is using.
Fair usage? what about Fair Supply. -
New contract, new hub, same broadband speed.
Went online to look at my broadband options - it suggested I could get 12-17MB/s on a new contract.
So I rang and got a new contract. The new hub arrived, works great.
Now, when I go online to bt.com and run the speed estimator, it suggests I could get only 12MB/s. OK this is right at the bottom end of the initial range, but fair enough.
However, the actual BT broadband speed test says I'm only getting 7.9MB/s - exactly the same as I got before the new contract.
So, my question is, should I actually expect a greater speed? Is BT providing a newer, upgraded form of VDSL? I mean, is there some technical reason why I could expect a greater speed?
(edit) OK I've done a bit of self-help... see some results below. Doesn't help me but maybe somebody can make use of this information. And yes of course I tried the speed test again and it didn't make any difference.you are on broadband with fibre vdsl which is the same as infinity but because your speed estimate was <15mb BT do not sell infinity where speed is <15Mb but you get broadband with fibre instead. this is still fibre to the cabinet and copper from cabinet to your home - just the same as infinity.
this is the second post recently where the estimate was the checker 'A' speeds but the reality is your line is not good enough for 'A' so you have somewhere between 'A' and the 'B' speed
the diagnostic test normally does work but sometimes you need to try a few times
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Broadband Speed dropped and wont come back
Hi, I need help and advice please.
Background info first though, so please bare with me.
During last July 2011 I was fed up of very low speeds and managed to get a BT engineer out to check the wiring etc... He did a great job by finding a badly insulated cable between myself and the Cabinet in our village. He also changed our master socket to a newer version.
Over the next few days my broadband speed went from 0.74mb download to 1.95mb download. Fantastic!
This speed has pretty much been a consistent rarely dropping below 1.7mb and at times has even gone up to my highest recorded of 2.46mb. I thought this was brilliant, I could watch iPlayer no problems and xbox live was even bearable (most of the time).
The big problem where I live is sometimes we have power cuts. Sometimes lasting hours but mainly just for seconds. Even so it switches the BB router off. (I know, but not my fault)
When we had the freak snow fall the other month problems started to raise their head. The computers in the household found issues connecting to the router and to resolve this BT BB Helpdesk kept advising me to reset router to enable connection. After connecting new ADSL filters the speed returned but connection issues continued.
BT supplied me with a brand new home hub 3 which I connected thinking it would give me my 2.4mb speeds again. Oh No. To be fare I think I was getting 1.95mb but I wanted more, as most people would. Why cant I get 2.4mb most of the time I have had for a few months.
Anyway I contacted BT who were kind enough to send a BT engineer out. He Said to me the Broadband speed is put out at the exchange (4.5km) at 8mb and comes into our village at between 3mb and 4mb. He detected no fault on the lines and spent the next 3 hours renewing 'D' and 'E' I think side of cabling (found this out later). He mentioned the noise was high but did something to lower it. On leaving he said I had 2.5mb and was confidant it would rise to 3mb.
Great not drastic but should give me 250kbs to 50kbs extra.
The day he was at my house we had 2 short power cuts followed by another couple some days later. This has not helped I'm sure.
NOW TO THE ISSUE.
My download speed since that day has not gone above 1.46mb download and every time I speak to the call centre they tell me my line is only capable of 2mb therefore 1.46mb is within acceptable range.
I am so tired of explaining that I was capable of receiving 2.4mb some 2 months ago yet now since the new hub 3 and line fiddling I am only capable of a 2mb downstream - 1.46mb DLS.
I know I have to wait 3 - 10 days but with power cuts its a nightmare, and they are so adamant about my 2mb downstream limit What the hell has happened.
Here is a link to my recorded (Speedtest.net) data over the past 11 months showing actual proof of receiving 2.46mb:
http://www.speedtest.net/results.php?sh=19a6b38248773feaa954bcf8e17ae768&ria=0
And here is my BT speedtester data:
1. Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
Download Speed
1.38 Mbps
0 Mbps
2 Mbps
Max Achievable Speed
Download speedachieved during the test was - 1.38 Mbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 0.4 Mbps-2 Mbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :2.21 Mbps(DOWN-STREAM), 0.45 Mbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 1.5 Mbps
My home Hub data:
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
0 day, 17:16:04
Downstream:
2,208 Kbps
Upstream:
448 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.1 Annex A
Latency type:
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up):
9.3 dB / 15.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
56.5 dB / 31.5 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
18.1 dBm / 11.9 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
12650 / 48
CRC Events (Down/Up):
50 / 17
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote):
0
HEC Errors (Down/Up):
289 / 10
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Please Help me I know I've had better than this but all the numbers point to the fact I can no longer have them. Why?
Many thanks
Jon
Solved!
Go to Solution.Hi JONNYYOUNG,
I'm not educated enough to help but it mat reassure you, as it did me, to know your circumstances are not unique.
Your story sounds very simialr to my experiende last November, speeds and line length being very similar. An engineer said there was noise on my line so he switched me to another pair. Did the engineer do that for you too ? Net result my speed dropped from ~2.3 to ~1.4Mbps.
Fortunately a 21CN upgrade at my excahnge has brought my speed back up to ~2.4Mbps.
I'm sure imjolly, john46 and maybe a mod if you need it will sort you out as well as they did me.
Good luck,
dfenceman
Best regards,
dfenceman -
Slow broadband speed and a lack of customer care -...
I am so close to throwing in the towel with BT. The service I receive is both inconsistent and laughable, the customer care is non-existent and the price I pay is more than VirginMedia.
Why do I stay? Why do I persist with an organisation who are just not interested?
Anyway.
My broadband speed veers from 500Kb to 2Mb, but BT Technical insist I am capable of receiving 8-10Mb
The full story of my latest attempt to deal with BT Technical is here: http://brennigjones.com/blog/?p=2776
I am really at the end of my tolerance and tether, but if anyone can help with a last-ditch throw of the dice, please let me know - otherwise I'm off to VirginMedia.
ThanksHello David,
The results of the test are below. What do we do now?
<script type="text/javascript">// paintProgressAndMessageOnBar(-1 ,"One Last Test Required" ); // </script>
This Test comprises of two tests
1. Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
Download Speed
1845 Kbps
0 Kbps
7150 Kbps
Max Achievable Speed
Download speedachieved during the test was - 1845 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 600-7150 Kbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :8032 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 448 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 7000 Kbps
2. Assured Rate Test: -provides background information.
Download Speed
542 Kbps
0 Kbps
600 Kbps
Max Achievable Speed
Download speedachieved during the test was - 542 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 576-600 Kbps.
Additional Information:
Assured Rate IP profile on your line is - 600 Kbps -
Hello
My first post, and I'm hoping that someone will be able to help me with this.
For a few days now, I've been experiencing very slow broadband speeds (100kbps or less), in contrast to the 1.5 - 2Mbps that I would usually expect to get. I've been on hold to BT technical support for some time, and have got through twice, on both occasions being told that this is a widespread issue and to wait until the next day. However, I'm not seeing any improvement. I'm aware of the problems in Edinburgh and the North of England,but I'm in East Anglia.
speedtester.bt.com shows:
Your configured download throughput speed for this service is 135 k
and then:
Two consecutive attempts have failed to initialise an Assured Rate session for your service.Please raise a fault with your service provider stating that the Performance Tester tool indicated a problem with initialising your Assured Rate session. <script type="text/javascript">// paintProgressAndMessageTestBar(-1,""); paintProgressAndMessageOnBar(-1,'An Error has Occured! '); // </script>
My hub stats are:
ADSL line status
Connection information
Line state Connected
Connection time 1 day, 13:59:54
Downstream 1,504 Kbps
Upstream 448 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI 0/38
Type PPPoA
Modulation ITU-T G.992.1
Latency type Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up) 15.0 dB / 19.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up) 60.0 dB / 31.5 dB
Output power (Down/Up) 16.6 dBm / 11.9 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local) 0
Loss of Signal (Local) 0
Loss of Power (Local) 0
FEC Errors (Down/Up) 4586 / 92
CRC Errors (Down/Up) 297 / 2147480000
HEC Errors (Down/Up) nil / 72
Error Seconds (Local) 221
I hope this is enough information, but I'll happily supply anything else if I can. The uptime of 1.5 days is the time since I was advised to restart / reset to defaults etc.
Thanks for any help.
Deej.Once a line is stable and working well, it's best left running 24/7
Interventions like resets, replacing accelerators, unplugging the router etc. will cause line "flapping"
And the dslam sees this as instability, and in turn the BRAS lowers the IP profile ....
This is done to achieve stability, and decrease throughput purposefully, all done automatically.
What you have to do, is cure any line noise, plug directly into the master or test socket behind the NTE
faceplate, leave it connected and wait for the throughput to increase.
Very often a rock bottom IP may need a kick to get it out of the doldrums.
Eventually the noise margin will decrease, sync will increase, and IP profile go up.
Depending on how long the line has suffered impulse noise, will determine the time for SNR to come down.
Regardless of which type of phone you used to test quietline ... hum or crackle is a no-no.
It may be the cause of the problems. It could be REIN on the network portion of the connection or dslam
crosstalk, either way it needs to be reported as line noise before you can count it out of the equation. -
I have been trying to update my ipod to the 5.0.1 but after waiting for a hour for the download i get an error message that the server has timed out as my broadband speed is not good, could this be the problem and if so how can i get the update?
I have the same problem I disable msconfig mode all the programs escept windows and apple products but the same error appears at the last second of downloading the update
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Hi,
I did a speedtest on the 1st and it showed I was getting 16mb DL speed however in the past couple of days I have only been recieving 3-4mb sometimes even slower.
I checked my status through ADSL settings and was wondering if the noise on the line is the problem:
ADSL line status
Connection Information
Line state
Connected
Connection time
2 days, 01:26:37
Downstream
5,479 Kbps
Upstream
763 Kbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI
0/38
Type
PPPoA
Modulation
G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type
Fast
Noise margin (Down/Up)
31.1 dB / 10.3 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up)
18.9 dB / 7.8 dB
Output power (Down/Up)
35.0 dBm / 1.1 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote)
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote)
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote)
0 / 0
FEC Errors (Down/Up)
0 / 0
CRC Errors (Down/Up)
7 / 0
HEC Errors (Down/Up)
2 / 0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote)
7 / 0
Thanks.
Tom.HI welcome to the forum
Yes your noise is the problem that has risen because of disconnections
can you please try the quiet line test at the test socket located inside the master socket dial 17070 select option 2 you should hear no noise if you do then you need to phone bt faults on 151 and report a noisy line but do not mention broadband when you call increases in noise margin can also be caused by manually restarting the hub have you been doing that in the hopes of increasing speed if so please stop as restarts of the hub are the worse thing you can do this link may also help the post by RogerB gives lots of suggestions to try as well http://community.bt.com/t5/BB-in-Home/Poor-Broadband-speed/m-p/14217#M8397
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Low Broadband speed = line fault?
Hi,
We have had a very slow download speed since the high winds started last week (live in a rural area about 1 mile from exchange).
I have run through the BT Broadband speed wizard & not improved the speed.
ADSL Speedtest results are:
Download speed achieved - 194Kbps
Acceptable = 50-250Kbps
DSL 3424Kbps (downstream)
448Kbps (upstream)
IP Profile = 250Kbps
Now, I don't know what it was before - but this appears to me to be pretty slow!
If I understand the notes correctly? for 3424Kbps we should be getting 600 to 7150Kbps throughput speed?
All I know, is that pages are taking an age to load...
Any thoughts on what to do next please?
PS After restarting the Hub 2.0, we got the following results:
ADSL line status
Connection information
Line state
Connected
Connection time
0 days, 1:20:46
Downstream
5,120 Kbps
Upstream
448 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI
0/38
Type
PPPoA
Modulation
ITU-T G.992.1
Latency type
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up)
12.3 dB / 23.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up)
48.0 dB / 29.0 dB
Output power (Down/Up)
19.7 dBm / 11.9 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local)
0
Loss of Signal (Local)
0
Loss of Power (Local)
0
FEC Errors (Down/Up)
2701 / 0
CRC Errors (Down/Up)
64 / 2147480000
HEC Errors (Down/Up)
nil / 0
Error Seconds (Local)
16
Appears faster on paper - but still as slow loading pages!
Solved!
Go to Solution.Hi again,
As promised, we have left on 24/7 & not re-set etc. Although it seems to have re-set itself a few times.
I am amazed at the low 480 Kbps speed! It is usually around 5400 Kbps...
Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test
Download Speed
243 Kbps
0 Kbps
500 Kbps
Max Achievable Speed
Download speedachieved during the test was - 243 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 50-500 Kbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :480 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 448 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 350 Kbps
ADSL line statusConnection information
Line state
Connected
Connection time
1 day, 15:47:51
Downstream
480 Kbps
Upstream
448 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI
0/38
Type
PPPoA
Modulation
ITU-T G.992.1
Latency type
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up)
29.3 dB / 19.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up)
47.0 dB / 29.0 dB
Output power (Down/Up)
15.3 dBm / 11.9 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local)
14
Loss of Signal (Local)
28
Loss of Power (Local)
0
FEC Errors (Down/Up)
26086 / 1
CRC Errors (Down/Up)
1766 / 2147480000
HEC Errors (Down/Up)
nil / 1
Error Seconds (Local)
7085
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