Brought back click Wheel back from the dead

Hello forum,
Newbie question from a newbie poster. I have a 40 gig Click Wheel that I had left for dead. I was able to get it working (hopefully not temporarily. My question for any knowledgeable user out there is; I haven't used this iPod since it failed on me 2 years ago and I've purchased a replacement 5th gen since. My desktop does not have the original install any longer for the the Click Wheel. What I want to do is re-install the install CD on a notebook running XP independent of my iPod/iTunes program on my desk top. If I do a fresh install on my notebook, will I be able to get the most current version of the software for my Click Wheel, if available on the support page? I noticed the current version I should be running in the help section and I would think it's more current than the one on the install disk. The other question is for my iTunes. Can I install the current iTunes version and not have to install any previous version? I'm assuming(hoping) that all bugs or fixes from previous upgrades are covered in the new version?
Sorry for the long winded post. I am anxious to get this iPod back to use.

ok, just give you a brief idea.
It used to have 2 software needed to install for the iPod, an iPod Updater and iTunes, but now we can install just one software i.e. iTunes and when we connect our iPod, it tells whether the software is the most update.
Try to download and install the latest version of iTunes here
http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/
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[SOLVED]Intel HDA HDMI Keeps Coming Back From The Dead Like a Vampire

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Last edited by Quantum (2014-04-16 18:03:02)

emeres wrote:
options snd-hda-intel id=PCH,HDMI index=1,0
The first index value (1) corresponds to first id (PCH) and since sound cards are counted from 0, this sets HDMI as primary. This should become pretty clear following the example on wiki.
Oh it's clear when you have different sound cards, as with their example of the MIA. But what's not clear at all within the Intel driver, is the relation between "index value" (an utterly abstract term unconnected with anything substantive), and ID. I infer that the IDs in this case are PCH and HDMI. But HDMI has two possibilities, analog and digital, as does PCH. How can HDMI have an analog function? And is PCH my goal? And what does PCH mean anyway? Why does everything have HDMI in the name? Where does Pulse fit in all this, since alsamixer considers it the default? And why is the module named snd-hda-intel-hdmi.ko yet when it's loaded it's called snd_hda_intel_hdmi? And which should I use in blacklist.conf? And why is there a snd-hda-intel-hdmi.ko and snd-hda-codec-hdmi.ko? And which should I use in blacklist.conf for options?
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emeres wrote:
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This is ambiguous, since, like I previously stated snd-hda-intel is used by both cards. Again the link to wiki where it is explained step by step how to determine vid and pid and use it with options. Vid and pid are used to determine a specific card and so specific options can be set for a specific card. They can be used with both suggestions. Yes there are very unlikely scenarios, where it might cause more trouble than good.
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Last edited by Quantum (2014-04-16 18:01:57)

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