Brush and smudge tools painfully slow in CS5

I use CS5 on quad core 2.26ghz macpro with 32 gb RAM. It's a clean system, both cs5 and os10.6.6 updated. No extra plug-ins or fonts. I do have an extra video card installed for my raid 5 system. Only use photoshop on this computer. Using the healing brush or smudge tool is painfully slow. also moving layers around are slow. I work on 10-15GB files. My assistant works on my old G5 with 8gb of ram and since it's not an intel he's still working in CS2. Using the healing brush on a 4GB file is faster on the G5 in CS2 than on my Quadcore in CS5. What is going on here? how can I speed things up?
I have cache levels set to 7, cache tile sice to 1024.

i have found that any mac pro i use - not all set up the same- if they have a nvidia card after a few hours of working there will be a slowdown of painting, cloning, smudging and screen redraw. I always have open gl off. adobe engineers have been helping now and then but no one has a solution. on the windows forum someone reportedly adjusted their video card settings to fix it. but on a mac we have to option to do that - that i know of. it is a big problem for me when using CS5 that I use CS3 when possible.

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