BSOD on nforce 6080i bo

It doesn't even let me install drivers just bsod... until I physically remove the card.. onboard sound works just fine...how pathetic huh!

I assume you mean nForce 680i. What sound card are you talking about, though? Is it an X-Fi or an Audigy? Or is it a Li've!? And which model?
What kind of a BSOD is it's Did you get to catch the error message or any of the codes? MACHINE_CHECK_EXCEPTION, PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA, etc.
And just for others' info, what exact motherboard manufacturer/model is it's
I haven't experienced your problem myself, but I don't think it's too uncommon around here. Have you tried the card in another slot, maybe?Message Edited by sireebob on 03-9-2007:30 PM

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    If you have parts that work in another computer with a different chipset this DOES NOT mean they will work with the nforce2 chipset.
    13) Graphics Card
    If there is stability problem and/or can't use agp 8x then update to the latest bios and it should work. Also try to disable the 8x feature of the motherboard in the BIOS. If neither of these work then you may have a PSU that is under-powered and needs to be replaced. You could also have a faulty video card, AGP port on the motherboard among other things. If you have to disable the 8x feature in the BIOS then there is still a problem even if the card starts working. That may mean the motherboard is bad. Also use the latest drivers available from the respective manufacturer and don't forget to uninstall the old drivers first!! There is a sticky post in the VGA forum that details this process.
    14) Checking the power supply
    Don't do this if you don't know what you are doing!
    a) Disconnect the power supply.
    b) Orient the 20-pin power connector with the clip up.
    c) Locate pin 4 and pin 8 top row, mostly green and black wire. (Usually the PSU manufacturer will have a drawing labeling the pins on their website)
    d) Use a wire to short them (or better a 12V test lamp).
    e) Now connect the power cord and the fan inside the power supply should start spinning. If it doesn't your power supply might be dead.
    15) Windows
    a) If you find that Windows2000/XP won't run stable:
    Try to disable APIC and install again. Not all drivers/devices like the APIC.
    b) Windows2000/XP won't install USB 2.0:
    Install the latest service pack using Windows Update (SP3 Win2000 or SP1 WinXP). Windows should detect the USB ports on reboot and install the drivers for them. They should work now but if not you could have a faulty motherboard.
    If you use a current or slipstreamed copy of Win2K or XP with the latest service pack they include these new drivers. This download will no longer be available on Windows Update.
    USE THESE AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!
    Slipstreaming Win2K with Service Packs and Creating a Bootable CD:
    http://old.bink.nu/bootcd/
    Slipstreaming Windows XP Service Packs and Creating a Bootable CD
    http://www.windows-help.net/WindowsXP/winxp-sp1-bootcd.html
    16) Raid
    Configure a raid array:
    After you have connected 1 or 2 hard drives to your Raid IDE port(s) press CTRL + F during boot and create a raid array.
    It is possible to have 2 raid arrays working at the same time.
    To boot from a raid array set SCSI as the first boot device.
    To install windows on a raid array you have to press F6 to load raid drivers during the initial install of windows. This will be repeated during Windows desktop installation of drivers because the initial drivers are only loaded to memory during this initial install allowing the Windows installation program to access the raid drives. A default driver is loaded at bootup so that the drives can be accessed until the real drivers are loaded from the MB disk.
    Raid 0 sets up striping which gives more performance for applications. Raid 1 sets up mirroring which gives drive security by duplicating the primary drive to the secondary drive.
    When using two different sized drives in a raid array, the larger drive is forced to only use the amount of disk space that the smaller drive provides.
    nForce 2 raid FAQ
    (Mostly by Wonkanoby)
    The third IDE only works with harddrives not optical drives such as CD,DVD. It only supports one drive.
    You must create an array first, weather you are using 2 drives or just one
    or nothing will happen .
    You must also have a 3.5 floppy with the appropriate drivers handy.
    INSTALLATION
    To install raid as a boot drive.
    Control + F and make the array.
    Set SCSI second to cdrom in boot order.
    Boot to xp cd and hit F6 as it prompts you to do right at the beginning and then insert the floppy.
    This will be repeated during Windows desktop installation of drivers because the initial drivers are only loaded to memory during this initial install allowing the Windows installation program to access the raid drives.
    The rest of the format/install is all as normal.
    Drivers for the raid can be found here.
    http://us-download.msi.com.tw/support/dvr_exe/sata48N.exe
    Promise PDC20376 Serial-ATA RAID Utility
    http://us-download.msi.com.tw/support/dvr_exe/37653.exe
    If you make a new floppy, unrar them.
    Then copy every thing including the text files to the floppy.
    (no text files, nothing happens)
    MODDED BIOS
    such as
    http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27626
    There are several offering full RAID.
    They add ability to have 2x drives on ide 3.
    I'm skeptical running raid 0 with both on the same ide myself.
    Now these you must get the bios and the drivers.
    The drivers are not the same as those for the RAID MSI includes.
    The drivers are linked on that BIOS page I have provided.
    RAID 0, sets up striping, which gives more performance for applications.
    RAID 1, sets up mirroring which gives drive security by duplicating the primary drive to the secondary drive.
    When using two different sized drives in a RAID array, the larger drive is forced to only use the amount of disk space that the smaller drive provides.
    17) Good Links
    J*A*G'S *Updated* nForce Cooling Guide (written by JAG)
    Suggestions on posting and getting better answers (written by GlennVidia)
    Good Memory Choices for K7N2G- IL and ILSR Board (written by Bonz)
    ati problem ,post vga card model and bios (written by Wonkanoby)
    Powersupplies(Written by Bas)
    Moan Guide (Written by Wonkanoby)
    A few good websites to have around!!
    The Freeware Thread
    NFORCE 2 OVERCLOCKING AND MODDING GUIDES
    Use these guides, including the content of this entire guide, at your own risk!
    This forum and it's members, including MSI, assume no liability whatsoever!
    Part One
    Part Two
    I am not an expert on computers so I have most likely forgotten a lot of things. Please send me a private message or email me and I will add it if it's applicable. If you feel that something here is in error then please contact me via the above as well.
    I also want to thank everyone that helped put this guide together.
    All Star Lineup!
    Arioch
    DeathStalker
    maesus
    ClarkKent57
    boost
    Assaf
    Bas
    Tweetyoost
    Stygge
    HansH
    GlennVidia
    RoganJosh
    Bonz
    Wonkanoby
    Dragon60
    [T-A]_Super_10
    labtech1

    Hello.
    Here is a guide to help solve some problems with K7N2 motherboards.
    Problems arise in systems because some components do not work as they should.
    Typical issues found with these boards consist of Non-nForce2 Approved RAM & a weak power supply. Other issues could be a cpu won't run at its rated fsb speed or an incorrectly mounted cpu cooler.
    Sound problems - too many or incorrectly placed metal standoffs, bad drivers.
    Windows won't install or you get a file read error - Incorrectly mounted CPU heat sink, RAM or power supply (PSU).
    I've listed some instructions below to help those users that need a basic comprehensive guide to troubleshoot their systems with. Please read through the entire guide prior to posting for help on the forum.
    Before you start doing anything, remove the power cord and make sure that you have touched the metal case of your system. This is called "Grounding yourself" and if you don't you could damage your system due to static discharge!
    Thanks to Arioch and Dragon60 for comments on this.
    1) BIOS/Startup POST reports wrong cpu or frequency
    Check if jumper j10 and j11 are set to safemode and also check fsb settings in bios. If the jumpers are set to safe mode set them to normal, this is found in your motherboard manual. The jumpers vary with motherboards and manufacturers.
    SafeMode sets cpu and memory to 100mhz.
    Both memory and cpu are double pumped.
    Data is clocked on the rise and fall of each clock cycle.
    That means that 100mhz real frequency is 200mhz virtual frequency.
    This is NOT without error and so your results may vary a little.
    Non-Delta supports all cpu up to fsb 333
    Delta supports all Socket A cpu
    Duron upto 1300MHz = 100MHz (=200DDR)
    Duron from 1400MHz = 133MHz (=266DDR)
    Athlon B type = 100MHz (=200DDR)
    Athlon C type = 133MHz (=266DDR)
    Athlon XP - C type = 133MHz (=266DDR)
    Athlon XP - D type = 166MHz (=333DDR)
    Athlon XP - E type = 200MHz (=400DDR)
    Support for new Duron 1400, 1600, 1800 with 266Mhz FSB (applebred)
    The following boards support them:
    (If a board is not on the list then it's not supported!)
    -K7N2 6570 V1.0
    -K7N2G-L 6570 V1.0
    -K7N2G-ILSR 6570 V1.0
    -K7N2 Delta 6570 V1.0
    -K7N2GM-L 6777 V1.0
    Thanks to DeathStalker
    The best way to identify a processor is by using the OPN (Ordering Part Number) which can be found on the processor (E.g. AXDA 2700 D K V 3 D).
    How to check which cpu you have:
    http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/Electrical_Specification_Rev04_ENG.pdf
    2) Over temp CPU
    Is the Heat Sink and Fan rated for the CPU?
    The CPU Heat Sink could be mounted wrong! Carefully remove it and check it. It can and will fit 2 ways but ther is only 1 right way.  Examine the installation very carefully!
    The Heat Sink has a recessed edge that has to be installed over the ridge (higher part or bump) of the socket. If installed backwards then it won't cool the entire area of the processor 'die' and could cause it to burn, thus killing it, or give you trouble as outlined in this guide.
    Make sure that you use a QUALITY Thermal Compound/Paste and DO NOT reuse old compound! Note that some Heat Sinks are shipped with Thermal Pads, these are ok for some but will not give you the best heat transfer that a quality paste will.
    Below are three images, the first two are incorrect, the last is correct.
    Again..It is important to match the notch or step in the heatsink to the socket or it will not seat properly, causing immediate shutdowns, and ultimately damage your CPU.
    If you use too much Silver based Thermal Compund you risk shorting the bridges on the CPU. This could cause damage to the CPU itself so use sparingly! If you feel that you've used too much then clean the die and substrate (the brown or green fiberglass material that the die is mounted on) and re-apply. Orange Clean TM is excellent for cleaning any type of thermal compound from a processor. Isopropyl Alchohol is ok but may leave traces of silver on the substrate. Using a 10X eye loupe will ensure that no traces of silver are shorting any bridges together after cleaning. DO NOT clean your processor while it rests in its socket on the motherboard. You run the risk of cleaner mixed with compound and dirt settling into your socket and that will cause further problems.
    Last but not least. DO NOT use acetone to clean anything inside your PC. (or outside for that matter) It MAY not do any damage BUT it may dissolve some parts. Especially the coating on capacitors and resistors.
    Silverbased compounds are not recommended by most manufacturers and if any traces are detected by them from an RMA'd processor they will usually void the warranty!
    The latest AMD XP CPU's (XP-2000 and above) require a copperbased heatsink because their die are smaller and generate far more heat per square centimeter than the "old" CPU's did.
    a)How to check the Heat Sink before taking it off:
    There is a simple way to check the Heat Sink without taking it off. You do this by first checking your idle temp with SpeedFan or MBM, it should be below 50-55C.
    Download Prime95 and run torture test for about 10 minutes while monitoring the temps, after about 1 minute or so it should stabilize and your temp should have gone up about 10-15C (max).
    If it still goes up or the system crashes, there is a chance that you've mounted the heat sink incorrectly.
    If your system can't run this check, (i.e. freezes or crashes) try setting your  FSB to 100. Try to run the test again. If it still fails to run  it could well be that the heat sink is mounted wrong or your power supply doesn't have enough power.
    You cant check if the heatsink only has partial contact with the CPU die by looking on temperature monitor programs. The heatsink needs to be removed to see that.
    If, after reading the guide regarding CPU Heat Sinks, you don't understand what we are talking about, then refer this link: AMD CPU & Cooling guide
    http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/23986.pdf
    3) Power Supplies
    Most common cheap 300-350W power supply units (PSU for short) can't handle an XP-1700 or above, try a better one to be sure.
    Make sure your PSU has 200W combined on the +3.3v & +5V rails and that the +3.3V rail is rated for 20A (A = Amps or Amperage) or above. This should be enough for most systems.
    On the latest boards the +12V rail has become very important too, expecially with AMD ThunderBird & above CPU's. Make sure your PSU can supply 16A or more.
    Alway's make sure you have a decent PSU, it never fails to spend a bit more on that part!
    Borrow a bigger one from a friend if you are not sure.
    Here's a good post on choosing the right power supply:
    Choosing The Right Power Supply
    This is the bare minimum that you should see on a PSU running an AMD processor. Intel is a bit more forgiving in some cases but with the amount of devices we use these days this minimum is a good guidline:
    +3.3V - 28A or better
    +5V - 35A or better
    +12V - 16A or better
    Watch out!! Cheap PSU's like Q-Tec come nowhere near these figures!! Do NOT trust the 300W or 400W rating on them!!! Q-Tec is about the worst of them all!!
    4) Metal Stand-offs
    Sometimes we are all a bit careless when it comes to changing a motherboard and forget to look at the layout of the stand-offs (those little silver or brass pieces that the screws screw into to hold the motherboard in the case) that are left from the old motherboard. Some motherboards use more than others thus some overlook the 'extra' one and mount that new board and never know the difference. Until they try to start their new baby up!
    Remove the board and check for to see if you have too many of them by counting the holes or screws that you took out and then count the number of stand-offs you have in the case. Remove any uneeded stand-offs then remount your motherboard. Having 'extra's' can short out circuitry and cause all sorts of problems most of which are audio related.
    Here are what typical stand-offs look like:
    5) Sound
    Two types of audio chipsets are used in these boards:
    a) The -ILSR version uses Soundstorm and has drivers supplied from MSI or nVidia.
    b) The -L version uses RealTek sound and has drivers supplied by MSI and Realtek.
    There have been a lot of issues regarding the -L board and its drivers supplied by MSI. Realtek drivers seem to repair these issues and can be found here:
    www.realtek.com.tw
    Follow the ALC650 link.
    6) RAM
    Most of the issues involving these boards have been memory related. For various reasons cheaper generic memory doesn't run with nForce2 chipsets well and you should get nForce2 Approved RAM. Here is a link to nVidia's compatibility list as well as a list of what has worked for some:
    Good Memory Choices for ALL K7N2 nF2 released boards
    It's not a good idea to try to run DDR266 RAM when you have a 333FSB CPU, get DDR333 ram of decent quality.
    If you think that you're having RAM issues then replace the ram with another brand to see if it fixes it or borrow some from a friend to check. Make sure it isn't cheap quality RAM or what you borrow isn't cheap quality. You can run to the local CompUSA (if you live in the USA that is) and buy some better quality RAM and return it later if you find that it isn't the problem.
    DDR ram speeds:
    Duron up to 1300/Athlon-B = 100FSB = PC-1600 = DDR200
    Duron from 1400 = 133FSB = PC-2100 = DDR266
    Athlon-C/XP up to 2600 = 133FSB = PC-2100 = DDR266
    Athlon XP D-type and above = 166FSB = PC-2700 = DDR333
    Athlon XP E-type and above = 200FSB = PC-3200 = DDR400
    Set Fsb / Dram Ratio to 1:1 that means that the memory is working at the same speed as the fsb does.
    Higher DDR speeds are only a must if you try to overclock. You can use faster RAM on a slower system and the motherboard bus will switch down in speed accordingly. The speeds given above are what should be used as a minimum, otherwise you're creating a serious bottleneck of data from the RAM.
    Use a decent RAM testing utility such as Memtest86 if you suspect RAM is faulty. Typical failures of RAM include but are not limited to:
    a) BSOD (Blue Screen of Death!)
    b) Data Corruption
    c) Machine won't cold boot
    Try your system always with 1 RAM module at a time to see if you have a bad module. Swap modules if you have more than 1 to see if one or the other is bad. When upgrading remeber that adding more modules can give you trouble too. Especially if you mix manufacturers. Some sticks just won't work in pairs and some fail when you put 3 or more in the system. When you want to use 3 sticks, make very sure you use the nVidia tested and approved modules, they are your best chance that they will work without problems.
    If still nothing try to seat the ram in another slot, sometimes they work better in another slot.
    Thanks boost
    Or raise the RAM voltage a little but be careful doing this! Sometimes this works when you have a lot of ram in the system.
    7) BIOS
    Sometimes when we play with our BIOS settings and set something wrong in it or set something incompatible with our hardware this causes the motherboard to not boot up. Sometimes they come from the factory that way as well. If so then clear the CMOS and start with the default settings. If it works try setting ONLY A FEW SETTINGS at a time and nothing more! If it works then go further from there a couple of settings at a time.
    There are issues when changing VCORE and it gets stuck.
    There are 3 ways to work around this issue.
    1. Updating to the latest bios seems to fix it most of the time.
    2. Clear CMOS, change VCORE in the BIOS, save changes then reboot and it should be changed.
    3. Change VCORE in BIOS, save changes, turn off pc then disconnect PSU from wall outlet by either disconnecting the power cord or use the switch on the backside of the psu if there is one. Reconnect the power cord or turn the switch on again. Boot up the system, go into the BIOS and check under pc health to see if it has changed.
    For RAID boards only!!
    If you recieve a message at boot saying:
    No Hard disk/drive present...BIOS will not be installed...
    or something comparable, it means that there are no drives connected to the raid controllers and it's not installing the drivers needed to support the function of that particular device FROM BIOS ONLY! This is nothing to worry about and all of the other functions of your machine should work properly.
    Modded bios to fix problems when using multiplier 10 and 10.5 and also to be able to use a higher FSB than with the MSI bios.
    http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=46052
    8) Clearing the CMOS chip
    Disconnect the system power cord and push the case power button to drain all remaining power in the psu for approximately 15 seconds
    Then move jumper jbat1 and wait 10 seconds and move it back to the original position. You should ensure that the jumper has metal inside of it when removed, sometimes (rarely) they don't. This process resets or clears the CMOS chip and is shown in most motherboard manuals.Now connect the power cord and restart your system.
    Some motherboards require that the battery must be removed for 20 minutes before putting the battery and jbat1 back for the CMOS chip to be cleared.
    ***Starting your K7N2 Delta2 at default settings***
    By "labtech1"
    As some of you will be aware there is no safe mode jumper J10 on the K7N2 Delta2 series of boards. This has been replaced by the "insert" key method as used by Abit and Epox. To start your board at its default settings following an unsuccessful overclocking attempt you need to do the following using a ps2 keyboard. Turn off your machine and disconnect from the mains or turn off the switch on the back of the power supply. Press the front panel power switch several times to discharge any charge remaining in the power supply capacitors. Reconnect the power by plugging into wall socket or turning on psu power switch. Press and hold down "insert" on the keyboard and press the case front panel power switch. If you are successful it should start the cpu and memory at 100Mhz FSB. If it does press "delete" to reenter the bios to change your settings to known safe settings. Good luck.
    9) Harddisks
    If your hard drive is giving you problems:
    Western Digital (WD) drive's are jumpered somewhat strange compared to others:
    No jumper = Stand-Alone drive with no other drive attached to the cable.
    Jumper master = Use this setting on your main drive if you have a slave drive installed in your system.
    Jumper slave = Use this setting if you have a second hard drive installed in your system.
    Cable Select - the preferred jumper setting
    If your Hard Drive is doing weird things:
    Make sure you have connected the color-coded connectors to the color-coded connectors on the motherboard and connect the other END of the cable to the hard drive. The middle connector can be left unattached without problems if not needed.
    Not all motherboards have color-coded connectors.
    IBM harddisks seem to fail a lot, try Drive-Fitness-Test on it, see if it has problems.
    Run drive fitness test (DFT)
    Maxtor also has its own version of hard drive check for their drives and is available from their website.
    Any brand of hard drive can have problems so check the manufacturer website to see if there is a testing utility to use to make sure they are ok. Hard drive failures can cause some of the strangest problems with computers and should be checked via the Event Viewer of your Operating System or using the mfg's utility. Sometimes the Event Viewer will give you clues that you have bad sectors leading you to a potential hard drive failure. You could also find IDE/SCSI controllers that are suspect by looking there as well. Win9x and ME DO NOT have Event Viewers.
    Alway's be sure your harddisk is in tip-top shape! If you suspect that it's not, replace it to verify.
    IDE devices and hard drive guide (Written by Assaf & Bas)
    IDE devices and hard drive guide(Written by Assaf & Bas)
    To enable a hard drive over 137GB in Win2000 edit this registry key:
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Atapi\Parameters]
    "EnableBigLba"=dword:00000001
    The K7N2G & Delta -ILSR boards support 2 IDE Devices on IDE 1 & 2, 1 IDE hard drive on IDE3 and 2 SATA drive's on the SATA Ports.
    There is a modded bios that allows 2 drives on IDE3. USE THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK!!! Here is a link to it:
    http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27626&highlight=
    Harddisk/power LED not functioning:
    If your Hard Drive or Power LED doesn't work try turning the plug around on the motherboard connector. Some manufacturers don't mark or wire the LED cables properly and the LEDs will only work when + and - is correct.
    Hard drive LEDs do not work with SATA drives but O&O Drive LED opens a little window and there you can see when a harddrive or cd is accessed. Works on both ide and sata drives.
    10) Floppy Drives
    If your floppy drive doesn't work or the LED stays on all of the time make sure the floppy is set correctly in the BIOS because the BIOS doesn't autodetect a floppy drive.
    Check the cable making sure that the twist in the cable is at the floppy-drive side and flip the connector at the around. If it stays on after that or you still can't read a floppy disk try another drive or a different manufaturer type drive.
    11) USB Ports
    USB 2.0 ports are supported ONLY in Win2000 w/SP3 and XP w/SP1. Update your OS from Windows Update and let the OS install the ports after reboot and they should work.
    If your USB ports aren't working:
    Check in the BIOS if the ports are enabled. If you're using the front USB ports of your case check to see if all of the wires are connected properly.
    There are 4 wires for each USB channel.
    In some manufaturer's cases they are supplied with a wire called USBOC. Don't connect this as it can cause problems.
    Also different mfg's mark the wires with different names so the basic nomenclature would be something like this:
    +5v = +VCC
    -D = -USB
    +D = +USB
    Note: Normally the cables are marked as +USB1 or -USB1, +USB2 or -USB2 and so on...please ensure that all of the 1's are together and all of the 2's are together.
    12) Replacing parts and the system won't boot after
    It's never a good idea to replace stuff like CPU and ram without taking the board out of the case. But if you do so please support the board because if you don't you might bend the board a little and cause trace breakage or component connections to the board to crack or break causing a bad contact. Always support the board when you replace components no matter what!
    Also make sure your system is compatible with any replacement component. For example your PSU may not be able to handle a video card upgrade from a GeForce2 440MX to a GeForce4 Ti-4600 because the +12v rail is too low or the motherboard isn't rated to output the proper voltage to the AGP port.
    If you have parts that work in another computer with a different chipset this DOES NOT mean they will work with the nforce2 chipset.
    13) Graphics Card
    If there is stability problem and/or can't use agp 8x then update to the latest bios and it should work. Also try to disable the 8x feature of the motherboard in the BIOS. If neither of these work then you may have a PSU that is under-powered and needs to be replaced. You could also have a faulty video card, AGP port on the motherboard among other things. If you have to disable the 8x feature in the BIOS then there is still a problem even if the card starts working. That may mean the motherboard is bad. Also use the latest drivers available from the respective manufacturer and don't forget to uninstall the old drivers first!! There is a sticky post in the VGA forum that details this process.
    14) Checking the power supply
    Don't do this if you don't know what you are doing!
    a) Disconnect the power supply.
    b) Orient the 20-pin power connector with the clip up.
    c) Locate pin 4 and pin 8 top row, mostly green and black wire. (Usually the PSU manufacturer will have a drawing labeling the pins on their website)
    d) Use a wire to short them (or better a 12V test lamp).
    e) Now connect the power cord and the fan inside the power supply should start spinning. If it doesn't your power supply might be dead.
    15) Windows
    a) If you find that Windows2000/XP won't run stable:
    Try to disable APIC and install again. Not all drivers/devices like the APIC.
    b) Windows2000/XP won't install USB 2.0:
    Install the latest service pack using Windows Update (SP3 Win2000 or SP1 WinXP). Windows should detect the USB ports on reboot and install the drivers for them. They should work now but if not you could have a faulty motherboard.
    If you use a current or slipstreamed copy of Win2K or XP with the latest service pack they include these new drivers. This download will no longer be available on Windows Update.
    USE THESE AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!
    Slipstreaming Win2K with Service Packs and Creating a Bootable CD:
    http://old.bink.nu/bootcd/
    Slipstreaming Windows XP Service Packs and Creating a Bootable CD
    http://www.windows-help.net/WindowsXP/winxp-sp1-bootcd.html
    16) Raid
    Configure a raid array:
    After you have connected 1 or 2 hard drives to your Raid IDE port(s) press CTRL + F during boot and create a raid array.
    It is possible to have 2 raid arrays working at the same time.
    To boot from a raid array set SCSI as the first boot device.
    To install windows on a raid array you have to press F6 to load raid drivers during the initial install of windows. This will be repeated during Windows desktop installation of drivers because the initial drivers are only loaded to memory during this initial install allowing the Windows installation program to access the raid drives. A default driver is loaded at bootup so that the drives can be accessed until the real drivers are loaded from the MB disk.
    Raid 0 sets up striping which gives more performance for applications. Raid 1 sets up mirroring which gives drive security by duplicating the primary drive to the secondary drive.
    When using two different sized drives in a raid array, the larger drive is forced to only use the amount of disk space that the smaller drive provides.
    nForce 2 raid FAQ
    (Mostly by Wonkanoby)
    The third IDE only works with harddrives not optical drives such as CD,DVD. It only supports one drive.
    You must create an array first, weather you are using 2 drives or just one
    or nothing will happen .
    You must also have a 3.5 floppy with the appropriate drivers handy.
    INSTALLATION
    To install raid as a boot drive.
    Control + F and make the array.
    Set SCSI second to cdrom in boot order.
    Boot to xp cd and hit F6 as it prompts you to do right at the beginning and then insert the floppy.
    This will be repeated during Windows desktop installation of drivers because the initial drivers are only loaded to memory during this initial install allowing the Windows installation program to access the raid drives.
    The rest of the format/install is all as normal.
    Drivers for the raid can be found here.
    http://us-download.msi.com.tw/support/dvr_exe/sata48N.exe
    Promise PDC20376 Serial-ATA RAID Utility
    http://us-download.msi.com.tw/support/dvr_exe/37653.exe
    If you make a new floppy, unrar them.
    Then copy every thing including the text files to the floppy.
    (no text files, nothing happens)
    MODDED BIOS
    such as
    http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27626
    There are several offering full RAID.
    They add ability to have 2x drives on ide 3.
    I'm skeptical running raid 0 with both on the same ide myself.
    Now these you must get the bios and the drivers.
    The drivers are not the same as those for the RAID MSI includes.
    The drivers are linked on that BIOS page I have provided.
    RAID 0, sets up striping, which gives more performance for applications.
    RAID 1, sets up mirroring which gives drive security by duplicating the primary drive to the secondary drive.
    When using two different sized drives in a RAID array, the larger drive is forced to only use the amount of disk space that the smaller drive provides.
    17) Good Links
    J*A*G'S *Updated* nForce Cooling Guide (written by JAG)
    Suggestions on posting and getting better answers (written by GlennVidia)
    Good Memory Choices for K7N2G- IL and ILSR Board (written by Bonz)
    ati problem ,post vga card model and bios (written by Wonkanoby)
    Powersupplies(Written by Bas)
    Moan Guide (Written by Wonkanoby)
    A few good websites to have around!!
    The Freeware Thread
    NFORCE 2 OVERCLOCKING AND MODDING GUIDES
    Use these guides, including the content of this entire guide, at your own risk!
    This forum and it's members, including MSI, assume no liability whatsoever!
    Part One
    Part Two
    I am not an expert on computers so I have most likely forgotten a lot of things. Please send me a private message or email me and I will add it if it's applicable. If you feel that something here is in error then please contact me via the above as well.
    I also want to thank everyone that helped put this guide together.
    All Star Lineup!
    Arioch
    DeathStalker
    maesus
    ClarkKent57
    boost
    Assaf
    Bas
    Tweetyoost
    Stygge
    HansH
    GlennVidia
    RoganJosh
    Bonz
    Wonkanoby
    Dragon60
    [T-A]_Super_10
    labtech1

  • BSOD and Memory (perhaps)

    Over the last six weeks I have run into a number of BSOD issues which have left me both perplexed and yet and at the same time livid.
    The messages onscreen are inconsistent although the crash invariable occurs when playing a game, every game in fact except Medieval Total war (for some reason).
    I have attempted to analyse the memory - memtest ran overnight and found no errors. The finger of blame then shifted to point to Norton which has now been blown away, PSU has been checked, thermal paste reapplied etc etc
    I was having issues with Nvidia 57.62 drivers but rolled back to 53.03 and that situation seemed to resolve itself in as much as no specific dll was mentioned on the BSOD. Every message seems to point to memory (when followed up on Google) but I would like to resolve any problem if I can rather than replace the memory sticks.
    Memory timings were set by SPD at 7-3-3-2 and Crucial are a company related to Microm if that helps  
    IRQ settings are as follows - if that helps
    IRQ 0   System timer   OK
    IRQ 1   Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard   OK
    IRQ 3   Communications Port (COM2)   OK
    IRQ 4   Communications Port (COM1)   OK
    IRQ 6   Standard floppy disk controller   OK
    IRQ 8   System CMOS/real time clock   OK
    IRQ 9   Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System   OK
    IRQ 11   NVIDIA nForce PCI System Management   OK
    IRQ 13   Numeric data processor   OK
    IRQ 14   Primary IDE Channel   OK
    IRQ 15   Secondary IDE Channel   OK
    IRQ 19   NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Ultra   OK
    IRQ 20   Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller   OK
    IRQ 20   NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio Codec Interface   OK
    IRQ 21   Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller   OK
    IRQ 21   OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller   OK
    IRQ 22   Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller   OK
    IRQ 22   NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) MCP Audio Processing Unit (Dolby(R) Digital)   OK
    Sorry to be vague with the BSOD message info but if I see one more tonight Mr Fist will meet Mr Screen at extreme velocity
    Thanks in Advance

    IRQ's are fine
    So drivers and Norton are the only thing you've introduced to this system prior to this problem?
    How long has this OS been up and running?
    Have you installed a lot of programs and/or uninstalled them?
    At first, I would consider several things.
    I need to look back and try to remember when it started happening and then try to tie in what how and when (changes) I've made to the OS, such as new programs, drivers, introuduced new hardware etc. After some investigation, if I can't attribute this problem to possibly any changes I may have made, then I have to consider a hardware or power problem. I don't have either of the latter as I have a good supply like you and I use a UPS with a line conditioner.
    You've tested the RAM but that doesn't rule out a problem completely but good enough to look elsewhere for the time being. If it worked great before, no sense in changing memory settings, logic tells me that's like swatting the dog for crapping on your new carpet, when it was really your one year old's diaper that's leaking.
    By now I may have come to the conclusion it's probably me that's introduced or had a hand in cocking up my system and I consider a full reformat and re-install to verify my suspicion. It's certainly takes me less time to load the OS then to nitpick around, especially with how I beat up my OS on a regular basis. I can't even go 9 months before I decide it's time.
    Just some things to think about, no point in getting angry at a computer, you own it so you have a right to abuse it

  • MSI K7N2 DELTA -L (601-6570-020) nFORCE 2 DUAL 400 , RANDOM RESTART PROBLEM (WinXP,Win98)

    Machine Specs:
    - AMD Athlon XP 2600+ With L2 512 KB (Model 10)
    - MSI K7N2 Delta -L nFORCE 2 Ultra 400 (601-670-020) (My AwardBios is updated to v5.7, Using nVIDIA`s O/B Audio and Ethernet Controllers)
    - TwinMOS PC3200(CL2.5) 512 MB DDR400 RAM (Desktop Series)
    - Samsung SpinPoint (SP0411N) 40 GB 7200 Rpm HDD
    - GeForce2 MX400 64MB AGP 4x (Oem Manufacturer)
    - Samsung SyncMaster 753s 17" Monitor
    - Sony 52x Cd-Rom
    - Philips Stereo Headphones
    - Windows XP Home Edition Turkish (Service Pack 1 Turkish) , I did all of critical and other updates ,Totally up to date.Device drivers are too...(nForce 3.13 whql International,Forceware 56.72 whql International)
    Problem :
    - ERROR EVENT : 1003 ERROR NAME : IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
    Original Error Texts:
    A problem has been detected & Windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.
    IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
    If this is the first time you've seen this Stop error screen, restart the computer. If this screen appears again follow these steps.
    Check to make sure any new hardware or software is properly installed. If this is a new installation, ask your hardware or software manufacturer for any Windows updates you might need. If the problem continues, disable or remove any newly installed hardware or software.
    Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing.
    If you need to use safe mode to remove or disable components restart your computer, Press F8 to select Advanced Start-up options & select Safe Mode.
    Technical Information :
    *** STOP: 0x0000000A (0x00000004, 0x00000002, 0x00000001, 0x804F1473)
    Beginning dump of physical memory
    Physical memory dump complete. Contact your system Administrator or technical support group for further assistance.
    After restarting manually from the PC. I get the following message
    The system has recovered from a serious error.
    BCCode : a BCP1 : 00000004 BCP2 : 00000002 BCP3 : 00000000
    BCP4 : 804F1ADA OSVer : 5_1_2600 SP : 0_0 Product : 256_1
    C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\Mini042202-01.dmp
    C:\DOCUME~1\DANIEL~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\WER3.tmp.dir00\sysdata.xml
    And when I check EVENT VIEWER
    Event Type: Error
    Event Source: System Error
    Event Category: (102)
    Event ID: 1003
    Date: 22/04/2002
    Time: 5:55:03 PM
    User: N/A
    Computer: XXX-BOX
    Description:
    Error code 0000000a, parameter1 00000004, parameter2 00000002, parameter3 00000000, parameter4 804f1ada.
    For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
    Data:
    0000: 53 79 73 74 65 6d 20 45 System E
    0008: 72 72 6f 72 20 20 45 72 rror Er
    0010: 72 6f 72 20 63 6f 64 65 ror code
    0018: 20 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 0000000
    0020: 61 20 20 50 61 72 61 6d a Param
    0028: 65 74 65 72 73 20 30 30 eters 00
    0030: 30 30 30 30 30 34 2c 20 000004,
    0038: 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 32 00000002
    0040: 2c 20 30 30 30 30 30 30 , 000000
    0048: 30 30 2c 20 38 30 34 66 00, 804f
    0050: 31 61 64 61 1ada
    I installed 6 operating systems on my pc (WinXp Home Edition Turkish/English,WinXP Pro Turkish/English,Win98 Turkish/English) and tested it, but every time i meet the same thing (MS Blue Screen Of Death Sux...).I checked the WinXP`s logs and searched for error code`s meaning from microsoft knowledge database. They are saying nothing about this problem but the problem`s root is coming from a bad device driver. It seems to be a generic problem for all operating systems cuz all of them were restarting themselves randomly, before i close "auto-restart on critical errors" option.After i saw some messages on forums , i searched for my RAM maker`s home page then i learned that my RAM is assembled with VIA KT Series and SIS chips & optimized for them. I think nForce is too picky about rams.But i aint sure about where the hell is this problem coming from. If you guys are sure about that is an unsupported ram problem and knew the list of ram marks&models that supported by MSI K7N2 Delta -L ,please help me about this damn problem. Thanks for your help.
    Note : I tried Asus Ati Radeon 9200SE 64mb g.adapter (some peoples told me thats about g.adapter), but problem continued.

    If I read correctly in your specs I see only 11 Amps on the +12v Rail. Is this correct?
    If so, I'd advise a PSU that has at least 18 amps on the +12v Rail, perhaps as low as 16 with the other rails to match as shown currently in your spec.
    11 Amps is just way too underpowered for that rig. I am surprised it even boots.
    At what point does the BSOD occur?

  • BSOD's and boot errors on HP Blackbird 002

    Hello,
    I have a HP BLACKBIRD 002 LC with Quad Core - Intel(R) Core2(TM) Quad-Core 2.4GHz Q6600, 2 GB 1066MHz CORSAIR PC2-8500 DDR2 SDRAM, ASUS Striker Extreme, NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX, with 768MB of GDDR3 SDRAM running Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate.
    I’ve had it since December 2007 and have had no problems whatsoever until this past December (2011).  Around the 30th or 31st of December, I started getting Blue Screens of Death (BSOD’s) at random points all with multiple and variable errors.  I’ve tried going into SAFE mode and SAFE mode with networking to resolve the issue, but would eventually get a BSOD.  Sometimes now, it won’t even power on the monitor or it shuts down completely when I try to enter the BIOS setup.  Other times, it boots into the NVIDIA boot agent and then exits due to some error.
    Prior to December 2011 and the errors, I did not install any new hardware nor any major software, besides routine software upgrades that would pop up.  I conducted weekly scans with AVG virus software.  Last major thing I did was uninstall a game.
    Since then I have tried changing the power source cabling, checking the seating of components and cabling inside, recovering Windows to earlier images (20 and then 15 December), re-installing Windows, replacing the CMOS battery, and running whatever memory or hardware diagnostic tools that I can find in the internal menus and the Vista CD.  My brother-in-law, who works as an IT help desk guy, took a look at it remotely and couldn’t figure it out.  I sent him some of the Minidump files(which I still have and can send) and the best he could isolate was consistent errors in the Minidump files with this “ntkrnlpa.exe    ntkrnlpa.exe+1026e0    0x82411000    0x827cb000    0x003ba000    0x4ea6b87e .”
    I did not make a recovery disc since the shadow copy backed everything up.  I do have a full system image from earlier in December that I can use to recover my files, so at this point I’m fine with restoring the factory settings if that’s even possible.
    I have no idea what to do next, so would appreciate any advice.  Thanks.

    I'd pull the "backplane" (the PCB out) and run power and data cables to the drives which I would keep in there caddys.  
    ...and as you said if you need the LED lighting, you can always find a power source for those somewhere.
    Blackbird 002 – Core i7-920 ~ eVGA X58 SLI ~ 6GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600 ~ OCZ Vertex 60 GB SSD ~ WD Black 1TB ~ 3 x SLI BFG gtx260s max core 55 ~ Custon LC (cpu)
    Blackbird 002 – Core i7-920 ~ eVGA X58 SLI ~ 12GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600 ~ 2 x WD Velociraptor 300GB (Raid 0) ~ WD Velociraptor 300GB ~ WD Velociraptor 150GB ~ eVGA e-GeForce 9800 GT AKIMBO ~ Asetek LCLC (cpu)
    Omen – Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 ~ eVGA nForce 750i SLI FTW ~ 4GB Corsair Dominator DDR2 1066 ~ WD Raptor 150GB ~ WD Black 1TB ~ eVGA GeForce 8800 GTX ~ LG Multi read write

  • New Nforce driver 2.0 Released !!

    @@@@@@Release Highlights@@@@@@
    11am PST update: kit updated to correctly recognized graphics driver WHQL logo
    First full unified package for nForce and nForce2
    Full localizations for all languages
    Fixes audio DirectX BSOD issue on Windows XP systems
    Adds ASIO driver support
    Adds OpenAL driver support
    Updated nForce Audio control panel
    Incorporates performance improvements and other bug fixes
    @@@@@Notes@@@@@
    Windows XP users must install Service Pack 1 prior to attempting to install this package.  Failure to do so will result in the inability to support USB 2.0 and NVIDIA IDE drivers.  
    Audio drivers will not install on the following nForce2 products:  ASUS A7N8X and Chaintech 7NJS.  Please use the drivers that come with these products to enable audio functionality.
    USB keyboards and/or mice will be disabled during the installation of this package.  Please connect PS2 devices before starting the installation process.
    @@@@@Driver Versions@@@@@
    Audio driver 3.06 WHQL
    Audio control panel 3.07
    Network driver 2.81 WHQL
    GART driver 2.78 WHQL
    SMBus driver 2.75 WHQL
    Memory controller driver 2.75 WHQL
    IDE driver 2.70 In The Box WHQL
    IDE driver 3.07 Full Driver
    Display Drivers 40.72 WHQL
    Bye ...

    I had to manually install the drivers on my existing xp installation.  aside from that I have not gotton the black screen playing aaops with surround turned on which is when it was occuring.  The installer did however extract the drivers to the c drive nicely.  On a seperate partition and a clean install of xp the drivers did successfully install the agp driver but I had to manually install the soundstorm, memory, sound, and network.  For anyone wondering how to install the soundstorm drivers manually I did mine by goijng to the directory where the files for the audio utilities were extracted finding the inf file right clicking and selecting install.  I noticed one thing that might be a problem and that was the part where the microsoft sound files get installed didn't come up.  however the soundstorm control panel and tray icon both function normally.  On the existing XP installation I first removed all of items for nforce which were in the add remove programs control panel and then updating the drivers listed in the device manager again when  I installed the sound drivers and utility the microsoft installer did not come up either, but the tray icon and control panel seem to work finem

  • Nforce drivers which one ? nvidia or msi ?

    i need to know which ones gives you max performance ? either nvidia ones or msi's ! .. i had msi nforce3 drivers so i uninstalled them and installed nvidia's ones , i also have a nvidia gfx card , so after installing nvidia nforce drivers i was getting BSOD , so i had to format windows and installed msi's ..
    BSOD = may be msi drivers were in the reg and never got uninstalled properly  so i m gettin BSOD so you get BSOD if u put nvidia nforce3 having a nvidia gfx card?
    so how many of you are using nvidia's ? and which ones better?
    my os windows xp sp2

    I've always used nvidias drivers , realtek's sound drivers  . Now latest 5.10 .
    Xp sp2 no problem here.
    MSI drivers are made by nvidia of course .
    The MSI 5.03 driver package was something in the middle of nvidias 4.27 and 5.10
    when it comes to some of the individual driver versions .
    After all : For graphics cards most people always use ATI's site for ATI cards and nvidia's site for Nvidia cards.
    Same should apply with chipset drivers .

  • BSoD Windows 7

    Hello everyone. For the past .. over a year now, I've been having BSoD issues. It happens during several things.
    #1: Recording gameplay using capture card
    #2: Unplugging said capture card from USB while forgetting to use the "safely remove" option
    #3: After stopping some process that uses up a lot of CPU usage or RAM, like games, rendering software, etc
    #4: Going to audio recording devices in control panel, selecting "listen to this device" for my mic and then unselecting it later
    #4: Randomly, or just some pattern that I haven't picked up on
    First off, I'm bad at technical stuff with PC's so I apologize if I say something dumb or don't completely understand something.
    For a while, because of the "listen to this device" thing, I assumed it was dealing with my audio. It seemed to fit everything besides RAM/usage problems. My motherboard fried a good amount of time after, and was replaced, but the problem still
    occurred, so I assumed it wasn't the mobo. Not long ago, I figured it might actually have to do with my RAM. I can't remember what led me to this idea, but it was something I read up on. It seemed to make more sense than some audio issue.
    So I'll add these BSV dmp's in it, and ask you to assist me in figuring out what the problem is.
    There's normally 1-2 things highlighted in BSV, but one that ALWAYS is highlighted is ntoskrnl.exe at "Size" 0x005dd000, although at different "Address In Stack"s. I've read that ntoskrnl is essential for the pc to work, so maybe that's
    why it always shows up, but anyways..
    ==================================================
    Dump File         : 050713-66125-01.dmp
    Crash Time        : 5/7/2013 3:16:33 PM
    Bug Check String  : DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
    Bug Check Code    : 0x000000d1
    Parameter 1       : fffff880`0224c47c
    Parameter 2       : 00000000`00000002
    Parameter 3       : 00000000`00000000
    Parameter 4       : fffff880`07f4ffc0
    Caused By Driver  : nvmcp64.sys
    Caused By Address : nvmcp64.sys+80fc0
    File Description  : NVIDIA® nForce(TM) MCP APU Audio Library
    Product Name      : NVIDIA nForce(TM) Audio Driver
    Company           : NVIDIA Corporation
    File Version      : 6.14.0465.0 built by: NVIDIA
    Processor         : x64
    Crash Address     : ntoskrnl.exe+71f00
    Stack Address 1   :
    Stack Address 2   :
    Stack Address 3   :
    Computer Name     :
    Full Path         : C:\Windows\Minidump\050713-66125-01.dmp
    Processors Count  : 2
    Major Version     : 15
    Minor Version     : 7600
    Dump File Size    : 291,448
    Dump File Time    : 5/7/2013 3:18:37 PM
    ==================================================
    ==================================================
    Dump File         : 041713-30609-01.dmp
    Crash Time        : 4/17/2013 3:27:44 PM
    Bug Check String  : PROCESS_HAS_LOCKED_PAGES
    Bug Check Code    : 0x00000076
    Parameter 1       : 00000000`00000000
    Parameter 2       : fffffa80`052e2060
    Parameter 3       : 00000000`00000001
    Parameter 4       : 00000000`00000000
    Caused By Driver  : ntoskrnl.exe
    Caused By Address : ntoskrnl.exe+71f00
    File Description  : NT Kernel & System
    Product Name      : Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Company           : Microsoft Corporation
    File Version      : 6.1.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
    Processor         : x64
    Crash Address     : ntoskrnl.exe+71f00
    Stack Address 1   :
    Stack Address 2   :
    Stack Address 3   :
    Computer Name     :
    Full Path         : C:\Windows\Minidump\041713-30609-01.dmp
    Processors Count  : 2
    Major Version     : 15
    Minor Version     : 7600
    Dump File Size    : 262,144
    Dump File Time    : 4/17/2013 3:29:36 PM
    ==================================================
    ==================================================
    Dump File         : 041713-39671-01.dmp
    Crash Time        : 4/17/2013 1:04:14 PM
    Bug Check String  : SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
    Bug Check Code    : 0x1000007e
    Parameter 1       : ffffffff`c0000005
    Parameter 2       : fffff880`03e7b9a5
    Parameter 3       : fffff880`02f9d648
    Parameter 4       : fffff880`02f9cea0
    Caused By Driver  : nvlddmkm.sys
    Caused By Address : nvlddmkm.sys+11557f
    File Description  : NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 331.65
    Product Name      : NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 331.65
    Company           : NVIDIA Corporation
    File Version      : 9.18.13.3165
    Processor         : x64
    Crash Address     : stdriver64.sys+19a5
    Stack Address 1   :
    Stack Address 2   :
    Stack Address 3   :
    Computer Name     :
    Full Path         : C:\Windows\Minidump\041713-39671-01.dmp
    Processors Count  : 2
    Major Version     : 15
    Minor Version     : 7600
    Dump File Size    : 294,792
    Dump File Time    : 4/17/2013 1:06:06 PM
    ==================================================
    ==================================================
    Dump File         : 032313-28609-01.dmp
    Crash Time        : 3/23/2013 9:25:07 PM
    Bug Check String  : DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
    Bug Check Code    : 0x000000d1
    Parameter 1       : 00000000`55d78327
    Parameter 2       : 00000000`00000002
    Parameter 3       : 00000000`00000000
    Parameter 4       : fffff880`03f2a9a5
    Caused By Driver  : stdriver64.sys
    Caused By Address : stdriver64.sys+19a5
    File Description  : stdriver.sys
    Product Name      : stdriver.sys
    Company           : NCH Software
    File Version      : 1.13:14:30:54
    Processor         : x64
    Crash Address     : ntoskrnl.exe+71f00
    Stack Address 1   :
    Stack Address 2   :
    Stack Address 3   :
    Computer Name     :
    Full Path         : C:\Windows\Minidump\032313-28609-01.dmp
    Processors Count  : 2
    Major Version     : 15
    Minor Version     : 7600
    Dump File Size    : 294,784
    Dump File Time    : 3/23/2013 9:26:05 PM
    ==================================================
    ==================================================
    Dump File         : 031313-25765-01.dmp
    Crash Time        : 3/13/2013 2:13:16 PM
    Bug Check String  : PROCESS_HAS_LOCKED_PAGES
    Bug Check Code    : 0x00000076
    Parameter 1       : 00000000`00000000
    Parameter 2       : fffffa80`021186e0
    Parameter 3       : 00000000`00000002
    Parameter 4       : 00000000`00000000
    Caused By Driver  : ntoskrnl.exe
    Caused By Address : ntoskrnl.exe+71f00
    File Description  : NT Kernel & System
    Product Name      : Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Company           : Microsoft Corporation
    File Version      : 6.1.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
    Processor         : x64
    Crash Address     : ntoskrnl.exe+71f00
    Stack Address 1   :
    Stack Address 2   :
    Stack Address 3   :
    Computer Name     :
    Full Path         : C:\Windows\Minidump\031313-25765-01.dmp
    Processors Count  : 2
    Major Version     : 15
    Minor Version     : 7600
    Dump File Size    : 290,656
    Dump File Time    : 3/13/2013 2:14:42 PM
    ==================================================
    Hopefully this is enough information. BSV shows up to 50 of them, and those are the most recent 5. Thanks for any info.

    KOOL4ID
    The most recent date on those DMP files is from May 2013 so not useful.  Please check the wiki to make sure they are enabled in your control panel.
    One thing of note is that you hae drivers from as far back as 2004  that would be updated when you update to service pack 1.  That may fix this problem in itself so I would do that.
    Service pack 1 Update.
    http://windows.microsoft.com/installwindows7sp1
    Learn how to install Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/learn-how-to-install-windows-7-service-pack-1-sp1
    Additional Resources:
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/uninstall-sp1
    http://windows.microsoft.com/troubleshootwindows7sp1
    Wanikiya and Dyami--Team Zigzag

  • Asus A8n-vm chipset problem (nforce 410)

    Hello there, i'm new here!
    i have installed my Sun Solaris 10 on a motherboard Asus A8N-VM with the Nvidia Nforce 410 chipset. I also have a PCI-Express Graphic Card from XFX (geforce 6800 XT).
    where can i download the drivers and how do i install the Graphic Card, onboard LAN and onboard audio?
    friendly greetings, Erik de Zeeuw

    Yeah, I remember this error, I couldn't even install the X-Fi drivers. I solved it disabling the onboard IEE394 Firewire controller. Now the drivers install ok, but after some time gaming (half an hour usually), a bsod caused by ha20x2k and a reboot. I've just installed beta 002 bios, time for some testing now, but I'm afraid I will return this motherboard

  • Very Weird Bsod Error!!

    Hi all,
      I have had my setup for about 6 months and have been satisfied with its performance and have had almost no problems.
    Today a big problem came, I turned on my computer from a cold boot and after the windows xp splash screen was halfway done I hear a click from inside my case and then a blue screen of death on my monitor with MACHINE CHECK EXCEPTION.  I could do nothing but power it off and turn it back on.  When windows loaded successfully this time, I get the infamous "Your system has recovered from a serious error." message, and I could few the details but it looks scrambled and foreign to me, I don't know what the error is pointing at.
    I am pretty sure this is a hardware error and I am leaning towards my harddrive because it is the oldest component I have and I have tested my ram with memtest and friends computers and no problems whatsoever.
    I am stumped except for two possible solutions I could try:
    1.  I read on this forum something about upping CPU voltage?  I have it at default 1.50V.  What should it be and will it do any harm?
    2.  I currently have official bios 1.4.  I could flash to 1.5 to see if my problems are solved but I don't exactly know what has been fixed in the newest bios.
    So being somebody who never got BSOD, and now I get them about once every 2 weeks and cannot get it to repeat because it is random at windows xp startup I am out of ideas.
    Any help or insight appreciated.  Thanks in advance!!

    I had a similar issue with a 32bit system that popped like that with a BSOD but I know something fried because of the burning smell. It worked fine after that and had the same issue...random BSOD's. I thought I inspected the board closely the first time and even when I decided to swap boards, the problem continued.
    I kept the original board as I figured it was probably ok and would eventally use it. Well, it came time where I had the opportunity to use it and lo and behold, I found a burn mark hidden under a PCI slot.  Needless to say, I had it replaced under warranty.
    Now I tested my RAM several times with  Memtest86 and recieved no errors, so I continued on until I recieved the board in my sig. I got new RAM for this rig and took my Abit AN7 and PC2700 RAM and assembled another PC for my son. Once I got up and running, I decided to do further in depth testing. I discovered I was able to get errors with certain timings during one spcific test pass. All others passed with various timings except  2 2 2 11 which I knw would pass on all similar systems. I had the RAM replaced under warranty and when I recieved the new modules 2 days later, it passed all my tests with flying colors. BSODS are now a thing of the past and that PC is a model of stability, I almost wish I kept it as I miss the nvidia onboard sound.
    The moral here is that one simple test doesn't always reveal a problem, it's a great tool, but it's not a definitive catch all.
    Just something to consider...
    There may also be a driver or IRQ issue as well.
    Post your IRQ's from System Information like this:
    Heres mine
    IRQ 0   System timer   OK
    IRQ 1   Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard   OK
    IRQ 4   Communications Port (COM1)   OK
    IRQ 5   WinFast TV2000 XP WDM Audio Capture   OK
    IRQ 6   Standard floppy disk controller   OK
    IRQ 8   System CMOS/real time clock   OK
    IRQ 9   Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System   OK
    IRQ 11   NVIDIA nForce PCI System Management   OK
    IRQ 12   PS/2 Compatible Mouse   OK
    IRQ 13   Numeric data processor   OK
    IRQ 14   NVIDIA nForce3 250 Parallel ATA Controller (v2.6)   OK
    IRQ 15   NVIDIA nForce3 250 Parallel ATA Controller (v2.6)   OK
    IRQ 16   RADEON X800 XT Platinum Edition   OK
    IRQ 17   WinFast TV2000 XP WDM Video Capture   OK
    IRQ 20   Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller   OK
    IRQ 21   Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller   OK
    IRQ 22   NVIDIA Network Bus Enumerator   OK
    IRQ 23   Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller   OK
    IRQ 23   NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) MCP Audio Processing Unit   OK
    The last two are normal as I've forced nVidia's sound drivers and Sound Control Panel so your's probably wont look the same. I don't recommend doing this, it was only an experiment and a crappy one at best.

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