BSP VS WEB Dynpo

Hello ,
May be basic , how are they both different and how can we learn to work on them.
Cheers,
O

The topic of comparing the two tools has been beaten to death (see the links provided). However if you are looking for a way to learn both, then I suggest that you download the Netweaver04S sneak preview from SDN. Once installed you have the latest version of the AS-ABAP that supports both technologies. That way you can try out both technologies (there are plenty of tutorials, weblogs etc available on SDN and help.sap.com on both subjects) for yourself.

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BSP vs Web Dynpro ABAP

Hello,
we are looking for a listing that states the functional and technical differences between Web Dynpro ABAP an BSP.
Is there anybody who has come along such a list ?
Tx a lot in advance!
Best regards,
Ana

Annette,
check this
The SAP Web Application Server (WAS) provides a page-based programming model with server-side scripting as well as server page technology for developing, designing and implementing Web applications:
Business Server Pages (BSP). Server-side scripting enables direct access to all elements in the application server (such as function modules, database tables, ABAP Objects, and so on.).
We can create HTML pages or Business Server Pages (BSPs) with server-side scripting in ABAP or JavaScript.
The HTMLB and XHTMLB HTML Business libraries are available as BSP Extensions for a uniform layout and its associated usability advantages.
And In the Web Application Server, the presentation layer is separate from the business logic. This makes it possible to implement front-end technology.
Why BSP NOT WebDynpro
                          BSP
              ABAP WEBDYNPRO
Currently PMUSA/JMC customers are using Fire fox (Mozilla), Internet Explorer and Netscape navigator web browsers to access WEBUYPM application.
BSP supports these web browsers.
Restricted (Some of the features will not be supported by WebDynpro)
Existing WEBUYPM application is written in HTML, Business HTML and JavaScript language.
BSP supports these languages. And it allows even to mix ABAP, HTML and JavaScript thus has more flexibility to convert WEBUYPM application into BSP.
Web Dynpro does not support HTML/JavaScript.
Existing WEBUYPM displays the trade communications (Information tab) based on JavaScript and custom configuration file
BSP supports JavaScript, we can display the trade communications in BSP too.
Web Dynpro does not support Java Script.
Existing WEBUYPM application has different colors schemes, Logos and graphical elements for PMUSA/JMC companies.
BSP support s multiple color schemes/logo. These color schemes can be set dynamically based on company code selection at runtime.
Separate Themes has to be developed for each User Interface elements.
Development effort needs to be involved to even display a logo.
BSP supports client side (user) validations. As most of these validations can be done at client side, the no. of hits on the server can be reduced and thus giving better response for the user inputs.
In this way, performance can be increased.
Web dynpro does not support any client side validations, every time the request must be sent to server to validate the useru2019s input. This increases the traffic and reduces the performance
WEBUYPM application has logos, images.
BSP supports Client side caching, and thus loads these element from client side very quickly.
Web dynpro supports very little use of caching on the client side, and hence quite a significant delay in starting on some customeru2019s browsers.
BSP has no restriction on user interface possibilities, Ex. Grid, drop down boxes, Font colors, size etc.
Significantly more restrictive in user interface possibilities.
Ex. Only those fonts, which are provided by SAP, can be used.
Appearance can be changed dynamically using same web pages, to support different colors for different companies.
We can have same (or better) look and feel if we convert the application into BSP.
As there is no HTML coding involved in web dynpro the same look and feel as we have it today can't be achieved by using web dynpro.
BSP is built for developing any type of web application (including mobile applications. It can be accessed from desktop, laptop, and any kind of smart devices like PDA.
Web dynpro applications can not be accessed from PDA s (Not possible)
Why WebDynpro NOT BSP
             ABAP WEBDYNPRO
                           BSP
Personalization can be given to the end user if they do not want see any of the user-interface elements.
We can not hide any of the user-interface elements (Ex buttons ex) during the runtime.
Note - Current WEBUYPM application does not support any of these options.
Currently we are setting/retrieving the runtime context values in a session.
Web dynpro supports State full applications.
No additional development would be required.
BSP also supports to set runtime values and to retrieve the runtime context values, but minor development would be required to achieve this functionality.
Currently users can see view source for WEBUYPM HTML pages.
Using Web dynpro this can be restricted thus providing more security to the application.
HTML view source can be available to the users, Users can see the HTML client side code (not server side coding) as it does today.
By using Adobe Flash Island, powerful web pages (RIA) can be created.
But, Flash Island comes with Net weaver.
BSP does not support Flash Island. But, BSP supports Java Script.
JavaScript is essential for the new trend of rich internet applications (RIA), it is used by all the new applications, Ajax, Widgets, Flash, and even Microsoft is supporting JavaScript for the new generation of RIA
Web dynpro has wizard tools to generate the code to create/configure the User Interface elements.
Development effort would be required to create UI elements.
We dynpro has uniformity as we use standard colors provided by SAP
Uniformity can be achieved by using style sheets (minor development would be required).
Thanks
Bala Duvvuri

Launch RRMX in BSP application (WEB)

Hi Experts,
what i need to do is to launch rrmx (or any other BW transaction) in a BSP application (web interface builder...)...is it possible? And How?
Any hints will be rewarded.
Thanks in advance,
FAbio.
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Fabio Cappabianca

Thanks for the reply...how can i use rsbbs in a web interface?
Thanks,
Fabio.

Communication between BSP and Web Dynpro JAVA

Hello All!
I'm wondering whether the communication between a web dynpro application and a BSP application is possible.
To ellaborate more, we have developped a web dynpro application acting as sender and we would like to develop a bsp application that displays a smart forms and which needs to listen to the web dynpro. We don't know exactly how to do that.
Your help is really appreciated!
Yours,
Hajar

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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/a6/10b98ae47ef14799a918db66ee9477/content.htm
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MRUTYUN

Communication between BSP and Web Dynpro

Hello All!
I'm wondering whether the communication between a web dynpro application and a BSP application is possible.
To ellaborate more, we have developped a web dynpro application acting as sender and we would like to develop a bsp application that displays a smart forms and which needs to listen to the web dynpro. We don't know exactly how to do that.
Your help is really appreciated!
Yours,
Hajar

i guess it should be possible. (is it ABAP webdynpro or java webdynpro?)
post it in WEBDYNPRO forum for quicker resposne.
Web Dynpro Java
Regards
Raja

ALV report web (BSP and Web Dynpro)

Hi,
I want to display report results in a BSP table using a list viewer component.
I've found some classes for web dynpro that use ALV to print data results. Is there any way to use the same within a BSP application?
(Web Dynpro example that use an ALV table:
'WDR_TEST_DYN_ALV_USAGE'.)
Thanks and regards,
Maria

what ALV features you are looking for?
1. sorting - available in bsp tableview
2. filter - availalbe in bsp tableview
3. layout management (visible columns) - is doable with BSP (search weblog area for BSP personalize tableview)
4. export to excel - you can code that in BSP (code samples/special tag available in BSP weblog area)
but if you want a easy way out, as others mentioned, you can use integrated/standalone ITS to generate ALV and then use that its page as frame/iframe within you BSP
Raja

E-Recruiting BSP to Web dynpro in EP4 scenario

Hi All,
We have currently upgraded EP3 to EP4. As per EP4 it no longer support BSP , it will support only Web dynpro.
What settigs are required to convert exsisting BSP application to Web dynpro.
Help from Experts would be great.
Regards
Pallavi

Hi Pallavi,
Yes. there are a few gaps in functionalities delivered in EHp4 for webdynpro screens. Can you please elaborate on what do you mean when you say "e.g Candidate page and Recruiter. "
In webdynpro ABAP screns of eRecruiting, there is NO concept of start pages as in BSP.Also there is no transaction to generate URLs.
For internal candidate screens, go to SE80, look in package PAOC_RCF_UI_SELF_SERVICES -> webdynpro -> webdynpro applications ->HRRCF_A_STARTPAGE_INT_CAND.Right click on the application name & click on Test. Browser will open with your webdynpro screens.
External candidates screens can be accessed in the same package
For recruiter & administrator screens, go to package PAOC_RCF_WD_UI.
As mentioned earlier, Portal is a MUST for Ehp4.
Please look through the IMG once to check if there any specific steps. Most of the steps are relevant if you choose to have webdynpro UI on different servers.
I am not aware of the direct conversion from BSP to webdynpro. I remember seeing something in the IMG sometime. Please check there once.
Else if it is extensive code changes then they will have to be redone in webdynpro
Regards,
Sowmya

How can I capture mouse click events on BSP or Web Dynpro ABAP Screen

hi Guys,
Currently we have a user inactivity problem,
the requirement is: if user is clicking on BSP/Web Dynpro ABAP screen, he/she is considered active. so we need an mechanism to capture the mouse click event.
Using Firebug, we found that this js is in the iframe which contains BSP/web dynpro scrren: /sap/public/bc/ur/nw5/js/languages/urMessageBundle_en.js
we want to find this js file & put in some javascript code to track user's mouse click, but i cannot find it on server.
while in ie if we type http://host:port/sap/public/bc/ur/nw5/js/languages/urMessageBundle_en.js
this file can be downloaded, means this file is there.
Any one can help on this issue? find the js file or another way to capture the mouse click event.
Thanks a lot with points!

Hi Feng Guo,
We can not capture mouse click events on Web Dynpro ABAP Screen . I am not sure about BSP. But as for as I know the portal keep active the iViews until unless mouse clicks happens.
But for your problem I think you can get solution by setting iView Expiration to some more time period.
Regards,
Siva

BSP Excel Web Coomponent

Good Morning Everybody;
As you know BSP provides a built-in Excel Web Component.to provide Data Entry for the users extending all Excel functionalities. The excel web componennt in BSP is provided by the vendor "Microsoft Web Components" Ver. 11.0.0.6555.
The problem we faced, This exel web component in BSP is lack of "freezing columns" as the ordinary excel we have.
Any suggestion to handle this issue??
With Regards

this is not a BSP issue. its Microsoft OfficeWebComponent issue and you may find some answer if you search in MSDN or microsoft forums. As far as i know Excel web component doesnt offer column freezing.

Calling BSP from WEB Template

Hi,
Can any one help me regarding Bex web designer..
I want to call BSP in my Bex web template with passing parameters to BSP(R/3) over URL and also like to avoid login pop for BSP.
Thanks
Atul

Hi Arun,
Thanks for your reply, but what i want to know is from WEB template how can we get variable to pass it to BSP page.
Eg: If i have using hierarchical object in my WEB template and i want know which node(level) i have selected, how i can achieve that, if i am able to do that then i can pass it to my BSP page.
Regards
Atul
Message was edited by: Atul Dhariwal

WEB DYNPO Beginner: view - layout - Appl. Server Logon?

I try to make first experiences with WD for ABAP. I just try to implement the example of the tutorial in the Knowlegde Warehous. I created a view, but if I want to change the view,
the system wants me to logon to the SAP WEB Application Server of my R/3 System?
If I try to test a WebDypro application of the package "SWDP_DEMO_TUTORIALS", a logon seems to work fine?
thanks for any help
Jochen

Hi,
are you sure that in your AS ABAP ( that is the SAP Web Application Server) system the SSO settings are complete? For WDA, see http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/43/e86de5008b4d9ae10000000a155369/frameset.htm and for AS ABAP see http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/4a/b3b638faa32d19e10000009b38f8cf/frameset.htm
Regards, Heidi

Calling a Web Dynpo appl from POWL gives error

Hi,
I have created a custom webdynpro application integrating with POWL using the document provided by Saurav Mago .Refer the link below
But I get the following error 'Parameter APPLID contains an invalid value.
'[Integrating POWL with WebDynpro ABAP|http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/60f1d5ee-84ab-2c10-ce97-97dfd89bc238?quicklink=index&overridelayout=true]
I have searched SDN , debugged my application and checked the configuration and compared with the standard powl components, as well. But I am not able find out what the issue is.
I have tested the standard webdynpro apps and my app as well , services are active , the break point also stops in the window/view. But not sure what I am missing.
Can you please let me know if you got any idea regarding this. Appreciate your response.
Thanks
Saujanya

Hi Thomas,
Thanks for your response. Please find
How are you building the URL to test?
I am using the custom webdynpro application to test it . When I test it using the standard POWL, it works. But if I test from my custom webdynpro application , it gives the dump with this error message.
Are you sure you Application ID is correct?
If it works with the standard, I think the config is right
I have created POWL appli, type , , powl query , mapped the query to the powl applid, activated it, mapped query to the powl type.
Declared the powl_ui_component in the component usage , view container in the view and an out bound plug to the view with parameters and code as mentioned below :
code :
wd_this->fire_out_plg(
    applid = 'ZTEST_APPLID'                         " string
    forallq =   ''                                   " powl_xflag_ty
    qname = 'ZPOWL_QUERY'                      " powl_query_ty
    qselpara = ''                        " string
    refresha = 'X'                       " powl_xflag_ty
    refreshq = ''                        " powl_xflag_ty
    srvgroup = ''                       " powl_xflag_ty
    powldeltarendering = 'X'
Can you share the full URL you are testing with here?
http://cis0440.g2t1.XXXgen.com:8040/sap/bc/webdynpro/sap/ztest_applid
Please let me know if I am missing something.
Thanks
Saujanya

WEB DYNPRO: FCK Editor or Integration of BSP

Hi,
I would like to use the FCKEditor within my Web Dynpro applikation, because I need the fuctionality to have a rich html editor presented to my customer. I didn't found any soluton for this problem in the net or here, so I ask you for help.
If there is no way to integrate the FCK Editor in an Web Dynpro application ist there a way to embed a BSP in Web Dynpro?
Greetings
Bernd
Moderator message: wrong forum, please have a look in the "Web Dynpro ABAP" forum.
Edited by: Thomas Zloch on May 18, 2011 2:41 PM

bguenthe wrote:
Hi,
> I would like to use the FCKEditor in my Web Dynpro application, because I need the fuctionality to have an rich html editor for my customer. Is that possible?
i think it is not possible.
> If there is no way to integrate the FCK Editor in an Web Dynpro application is there a way to embed a BSP in Web Dynpro, because we have a BSP-Integration for the FCKEditor? Can I embed a BSP into a Web Dynpro view?
>
Embed BSP into webDynpro , i see Iframe as a possibility, however iframe is depricated in 7.01 and supported in 7.02.

BSP - Web Dynpro - Interactive Forms by Adobe - Flex

Hi,
I am a student SAP from Belgium.
I am currenty developping an application and I am using BSP's, Web Dynpro's, Interactive Forms and Flex.
I have a good idea regarding to what the possibilities are of each User Interface, but I would like your opinions:
What are the main advantages/disadvantages of each of the named User Interfaces?
So what's good/not good about BSP, Web Dynpro, Interactive Forms, Flex?
What's the easiest to code, to make a layout,....
I know, according to the sitiuation, you can choose which UI to use, but I would really like to know what your opinions are about coding, easy-to-use, speed, logic,... (PRO/CONTRA'S)
Thanks a lot for your input, it would really help me!
Greetings,

Hi Mahamed,
I got your problem. You have not done anything wrong.
It is WebAS version which is not supported for this functionality.
But there is solution to this problem
Please refer to the SAP Note number - 1055738.
I think you will get the answer and the scenario described there will match your requirement.
This is a know issues with WebDypro ABAP but this works fine for Java Web Dynpro.
I have also tried for 2 months but finally came to know about it.
Regards
Satya

Creation of Portal iview, with BSP on internal server, call portal external

Hi all,
folowing issue:
we have a test portal link with the internet via apache reverse proxy:
e.g. http://www.xxx.at/irj   is linked with http://cscinternal.csc.com:51000/irj
The portal can be started without any problem.
further we have a bsp applikation on an other internal SAP Server which can be reached with
http://cscinternal02.csc.com:8047.
the server is also listed in the apache reverseproxy list as   http://www.xxx.at/its
The bsp application link: http://www.xxx.at/its/sap/bc/bsp/sap/y_test_pdf_01/main.htm
can be reach via internet without any problem.
The bsp shows an radiobutton list + button, with the button one can show a list in an second window.
so, now i will call this bsp in an iview via portal
01. i tried the "URL iview", result: i can reach the html but on any action the side do nothing
02. i tried to config "iview BSP" BUT .... i have now idea what system i should put in,
     the second sap system is configured but there is the internal name in (i guess) ...
so i'm newbee in portal things, so i don't know where i can configure a system ...,
BUT beside this, PLEASE can anyone describe me how i can manage this internal BSP
in the portal to call it from external?
thanks a lot
bye Mike

Hi Mike,
Try below steps to make sure your have proper connection between Portal and back end SAP system.
1) Create a system object , Enter required details for "Web Application Server" Properties with below two options
          A) Enter Direct SAP Server details
          Web AS Host Name : cscinternal02.csc.com:8047
          Web AS Path: /its/sap/bc/bsp/sap
          Web AS Protocol: http
         B) Enter apache reverseproxy
          Web AS Host Name : www.xxx.at/its
          Web AS Path:/sap/bc/bsp/sap
          Web AS Protocol: http
2) Create a Alias . Run the connection test for Web Application Server (WAS). Make sure connection tests are successfull
3) Create a BSP Iview ,
BSP Definition Type: Application
Selct System Alias
Customer Namespace: sap
Application NameSpace: sap
Business Server Page (BSP) Application: y_test_pdf_01
Start Page: main.htm
Let me know if it works.
Thanks
Aravind
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