BT Infinity Ethernet extensions CAT6 or CAT5E?

Hello
BT is going to install BT Ininity 4 in my flat shortly, and offered me to install some ethernet extension throughout the flat to have fast internet in all rooms. Would anyone know by any chance whether they use CAT6 or CAT5E cables? I presume that for a gigabit network they would use CAT6 but if that's not the case I'd rather know in advance and buy some CAT6 cable in advance.
thanks!
Charles

I did not know they offered to to that with FTTP, without charging a lot of money. Perhaps other forum members have experience of this?
There are some useful help pages here, for BT Broadband customers only, on my personal website.
BT Broadband customers - help with broadband, WiFi, networking, e-mail and phones.

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Sometime in the future I intend to get BT Infinity, but just at the moment I am doing some building work where I would like to put in place the 30 meter data extension cable so it’s there ready.
Does anybody know where I can purchase the BT Infinity data extension kit?
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(corrected ... ryant 704 is quite right)
Put in cat5e or cat6 wiring. If that is terminated with telephone type connections it will act as a data extension kit.
Or it may be better (you didn't give details of your house arrangements) to keep the modem near the current master socket, and connect it via the same cable with ethernet termination to a remote router. There is always some speed loss from data extension kit (maybe trivially small), but shouldn't be any loss with a modem/router connection up to 100m or so.
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Would this cost money to have the kit installed? I understand it is simply an Ethernet cable where the most standard cable can deliver speeds of 100mb which you can buy for £5.00 or less.
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I have two lovely house rabbits that I want to throttle, although I've guarded their access to the area, have bitten through the cable from the wall socket to the data extension kit.
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I had Infinity installed last week with a similar setup to what you describe. The OR guy made the existing extension socket upstairs the master and the downstairs socket which was the master an extension. He used a spare pair of cores in the existing extension cable to do this so no additional wiring as such was required. Everything works just as it should.

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they run it along skirting boards and drill a hole through your door frame,just ask the engineer when he arrives,he will explain everything in detail they will put a new front cover on your exsisting main box...this will have two sockets.
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@john46
'the engineer can convert an existing extension into a master for free or run a data extension also free'
Depends on the type of cable really, if its 'phone wire', you know those thin strands of copper coated steel then that would kill the broadband.
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Hi nrt,
Welcome to the forum and thanks for posting, you'll need a data extension fitted as normal extension wiring can no carry the faster speeds. Check out BT Infinity Data Extension Kit and let me know if you want to organise this through BT.
Cheers
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