Budget and Commitment Item
Dear All,
While doing Import Procurement Budget is checking the CVD Duty also, As per as my understanding the CVD Duty account should be a B/S gl Account, but this gi account hitting as a commitment item ans cosume the budget. How it is?
Regards
Check wether the Commitment item is assinged to the CVD GL Account in FS00 and also check wether the Commitment item Assigned to CVD accoint is a statistical one or a real one.
if it was a statistical one it will never ask you for budjet. please check and confirm
Best Regards,
Ravi Reddy
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In my client place we implement the fund management. we create the department wise fund center and related committed items.
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Thanks for the note !
Looks like the note was implemented already for a previous storage location-based development.
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Tables related to PM order for actual and commitment items
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Solutions proposed by Alexey are good if FM document was created for the FI documents in question. If, however, no FM document was created, reassignment process won't help. You can try FMN0 transaction after creating a derivation rule in FMDERIVE for these documents, but I cannot confirm that it would be sucessful as FMN0 transaction is not perfect.
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KyungInHi,
1. No. The opposite is possible, i.e. one commitment item is derived from several G/Ls. If you want to derive different commitment items from one G/L, obviously, additional condition should be put in place.
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