Budget by profit center
HI. i have a little problem, and i hope you could help me. i need to know if it's possible to have a budget by profit center and not by account?
Thanks a lot in advance
Hi José
To achieve Budget by Profit Center, you can use segmentation. One segment would be Profit Centers. In this case you have one account per general ledger and Profit Center
Christian
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HI,
Besides using the UDT and write our own query to generate the report, is that any alternative to define the Budget for Profit Center in SBO 2005A SP01 without having the Account Segmentation?Hello Jack,
Here is the scenario how you can work with budget for profit centers:
1) Set G/L account in Chart of Account:
1.1 - Check Distribution Rule box, then select a cost center for this
account.
1.2 - Click account Details Button, check box "Relevant to Budget".
2) Define Budget a Budget Scenario, Distribution method and amount of
this G/L Account in Financials->Budget setup
3) Run Profit Center Report to see the all the transaction of this
account
4) Run the Budget Report (on Profit Center)
Generate this report to analyze the business activities that took place
during a defined period with reference to a selected budget scenario.
You can choose a profit center, to generate a report which reflects the
budget used for the profit center activities.
Regards,
Wilma Wang
SAP Business One Forums Team -
How to define Budget on Profit Center level
Hi All,
is it possible to define a budget on profit center level in SBO 2005A SP01.
My understanding ist, that a budget can only be defined on account level (if marked as 'relevant for budget).
If not possible - any idea/solution how to do it?
Thank you
E. AmbauenAs this is not a standard feature in SAP Business One, the best alternative is to add a User Defined Table with a column for Profit Center and Distribution Rule and/or G/L account. Bear in mind that the profit center totals are not stored in a table in SAP Business One, but rather calculated from the JDT1 (journal rows) table each time you request a report for a profit center/(s).
By writing your own query you could join the JDT1 table with your UDT and get the comparisons, etc. The table JDT1 contains a link only to distribution rules and not profit centers and would therefor have to be represented somehow in the UDT.
The only other alternative is an SDK add-on custom written for this.
Kind regards
Peter Juby -
Budget - cost center & profit center
hai,
i have one basic doubt. is it cost center and profit center requires budget. If yes where the budget will be fixed.
govind.To be maintained in the config part Cost Center Budget Profile: OKF1.
In the end user part Cost Center Budget: KPZ2 change or KPZ3 to display
FYI: Budgets can't be maintained in Profit Center Accounting.
Its only in the Cost Center the Budgets will be maintained as an responsible area the actual cost will be planned and budget will be recognised but not in the Profit Center Accounting is only for the planning the profit for the segment or the business area.
Regards
<b>Dinakar</b> -
BAPI to create Profit Center Budget
Hi friends,
Can anyone help me out with a BAPI /FM to create Profit Center Budget in FI& CO module.
Thanks in advance.Hi,
I think there are no suitable BAPIs for this. You may try the BDC method for this. -
Carry forward a Cost and Profit Center Budget to the next fiscal year
Good day SAP Gurus
How do i carry forward Cost Center and Profit Center Budget from one fiscal year to the next fiscal year?Hello,
You would not be able to carry forward these plan values becuase they are planned with respect to a particular period and year. The budgets only get carry forward for cost objects like orders and WBS where the objective is to accomplish a particular job.
Kind Regards // Shaubhik -
Work around for making Budget on the Profit center level
Dears,
Kindly inform me if it's applicable to make a Budget on the profit center , my workaround it to make a validation rule for the profit centers before the document is posted the system check the planning data for the profit center with the G/L account and if it's less than the amount exist in the table the document can be posted.
i don't know if it's applicable or not to make such a rule, also the standard SAP does not support Budget on the profit center.
if it can be done, kindly inform me with steps for it.
Thanks in advance.
Ahmed SamirFor cost center the following note can give you some info 68366 - Active Availability Control for Cost Centers
I think you could do something similar to get a budget function with profit center. Creating a statistical IO for each profit center and make sure that posting are always done to these IO (whatever real object is being used in combination with your profit center).
But then it will limit the use of budgeting of WBS, IM, etc... -
Profit center filed in Fund Center Master data in Budget Control system(BCS
Hi to all,
This is client requirement that Profit Center need to be put in Fund Center master Data, I have checked standard SAP field status for Fund center master data but Profit center option is not available there.
Could some one advise me how to add profit center into Fund Center or is there is Badi or customer enhancements available in SAP.
Thanks & Regards,
YK.Hi,
I dont know the reason why the customer wants this but in case the Profit Center of the funds center must be the same as the one available in Cost Center master data they can create a derivation rule in FMDERIVE for this.
The same in case Profit Center comes from the WBS Element, in order to read the WBS element master data, you will have to
create a new derivation step calling function module FMDT_READ_MD_WBS_ELEMENT.
In case Profit Center should come from another place, let me know.
Just to inform the exit names, in FMMD0009 Customer-Specific Screen Fields for Funds Centers, you have the following exits:
EXIT_SAPLFMF2_001
EXIT_SAPLFMF2_002
I hope this helps.
Best Regards,
Vanessa Barth. -
Report Painter Report for Profit Center
Hi All,
I am creating a report for profit center in GRR1.I was using library 8A3,& ledger 8A.which uses for PCA line i tems and table used is GLPCT.which shows profit center totals by period.I ran GLPCT in SE16 and found out No data selected.I see that profit center accounting is not active in my system ECC6.0
and I didn't see any line records for profit center in any of the profit center tables.GLPCA.Now if someone knidly suggets me how to achieve this report, can I still do it profit center wise or not? which library should i use in GRR1.The layout of my report is as under.Thanks
CURRENT MONTH*
Current Yr Current Yr Prior Yr
Actual Budget Actual Variance
YEAR TO DATE
Current Yr Current Prior Yr Annual
Actual Budget Actual Budget Variance
Regards
ShaunThanks Abhijit , I can now see my report group at the bottom of the list .I assigned you full points.I posted another question regarding report painter .If you could also give me some guidance on that.When I was creating rows and updating cost elements with account numbers.I set up 3 revenue accounts and then ran the report to see if I get any data for profit centers.I did get data but when I double clicked on one of the account,it displays this messsage.I read the msg. but could not make any sense with it.for example in definning row I put account number from/to 400000- 400000 Explode. and thats a characteristic.
No valid master data for characteristic 'Account Number'
Report MEG1 does not contain any data pages.
No valid master data for characteristic 'Account Number'
Message no. GR633
Diagnosis
No valid master data within the specified interval was found for the characteristic 'Account Number'.
Explanation:
For each characteristic that is processed in a report, the Report Writer optimizes the interval limits which are relevant for selecting data from the database.
Example:
A report contains the characteristic 'account', for which an account interval from 100000 to 200000 has been entered. However, if the master data validation shows that the lowest/highest account in this interval is 110000/190000, the selection will be limited to accounts 110000 to 190000 only.
The system returns this error message if no master data exists for the interval.
This error is typically caused by an invalid version. In FI-SL Special Purpose Ledger, for example, versions are assigned to the ledger and are defined in configuration. The report definition can then contain a non-defined version. A similar situation applies to controlling (cost center accounting): here, versions are assigned to the controlling area and fiscal year and can be defined in planning.
Another cause of this error is a ledger that is not assigned to the table for which the report was created.
Technical information:
The field name for 'Account Number' is 'RACCT'.
System Response
The system cancels processing.
Procedure
Check the report definition, or the specified master data, or the intervals.
Regards
Shaun -
Profit Center Derivation in AuC Line Item
Hi Team,
We have Investment Profile configured, where in AuC gets automatically created in background with WBS Release.
Step 1: While settlement from WBS to AuC, Profit Center remains blank under Entry View for AuC Line (GL View = Inheritance from the Exp Line)
Step 2: Settlement from AuC to FA, Profit Center remains blank under Entry view for AuC Line (GL View = Inherits from the FA Line)
Mismatch occurs in the Step 2.
Ex.:
CJ03 - WBS - AAAA - Profit Center = 1001
Settlement - WBS to AuC - CJ88
Entry View:
CWIP A/c. Dr. 1000 - WBS ELement - Blank - PC - Blank
to Exp. A/c. dr. 1000 - WBS Element - AAAA - PC - 1001
GL View:
CWIP A/c. Dr. 1000 - WBS ELement - AAAA - PC - 1001 (Inherited)
to Exp. A/c. dr. 1000 - WBS Element - AAAA - PC - 1001
FINAL SETTLEMENT - CJ88
AS03 - ASSET MASTER DATA - PC = 1002
Fixed Asset A/c. Dr. 1000 - PC - 1002
CWIP Asset A/c. Cr. 1000 - PC - Blank
GL View
Fixed Asset A/c. Dr. 1000 - PC - 1002
CWIP Asset A/c. Cr. 1000 - PC - 1002
In above scenario Balances at PC level are not getting cleared (CWIP Balances remains under different PC).
Document Splitting is active, and the Business Variant assigned to the Doc. Type is 0000 - 0001 (Unspecified Posting)
How to determine Profit Center in Entry View during 1st settlement run from WBS to AuC?
Account Determination Object - ACSET - are active for WBS Element also.
Request to revert.
BR, Jaymin R. BhattHi Ajay,
I read the help.sap for the same and it says as below: Plus now its working fine.
Investment Orders / WBS Element under the ORIGIN tab of Asset Master Data are used for Statistical Posting (Value Type 11) and in order to populate the same in document posting (Entry View) we need to create a Statistical Cost Element (CE Type 90) which ensures that WBS gets populated under AuC Line.
I created the Cost Element for the AuC Asset Class GL Account and subsequent transactions made the Profit Center avaliable under Entry View.
It is splitting perfectly now.
The only thing we need to do is to create it GL as CE under 90 Category.
Agreed ACSET configuration is also required.
One drawback for the above is, It consumes the WBS Budget during settlement and it reverses the same after final settlement. We need to exempt the GL from avaliability control.
Again thanks for the suggestions till date. Help.SAP has many things to know.
Thanks again.
BR, Jaymin R. Bhatt -
Profit Center Master Data - Validation - User Exit
Hi,
I need to add few validation to the profit center master data. If there is any user exit that I can use or is there any validation like OB28 (we have for financial accounting document) that can be used.
Please help me out.
Regards,
Binay AgarwalWe are on version 4.6C. Requirement is that while creating profit center, two fields, Budget Holder and CC Board Member field should be updated via some valid user id that exist in SAP.
This user id would be used in work flow. This fields are free field and would accept anydata. But subsequent processes would be hindered. Same thing has been implemented for Cost center and we were able to get hold of user exit but I am struggling to find the same for profit center.
As far as I am aware there might not be any user exit for KE51 tcode. Now only point is is there any other way (like validation) which can be setup before the data us saved so that we have control over the data being saved in these two fields.
Regards,
Binay Agarwal -
HI Friends,
Iam having a requirement related to FI module.I need to extract P/L Actual and Budget amount data from ECC, What are the Extractors are available in BI content.What is datamodeling for Actual data and Planned data.Hello,
Check the tables:
<b>SETLEAF
SETNODE
go through this link which ll give you clear idea about the profit center group.
http://help.sap.com/bestpractices/industry/serviceindustries/v346c_us/BBLibrary/documentation/B30_BPP_04_E.doc
go through these tables.
CEPC Profit Center Master Data Table
CEPCT Texts for Profit Center Master Data
</b>
REgards,
Vasanth -
Using GR55 T code - Profit center groups Very very urgent
Hi frds,
Currently the report provides drill down to specific profit center groups by double clicking on the group. we can also save this into excel worksheets for individual profit center. Instead of displaying individual profit center group we want to have one report whcih gives all the profit centers data.
Our requirement is to show profit center groups on one sheet with the actual and budget by profit group as columns for the profit centers.
I am able to modify the report using the T code GRR2 but dont know how to copy that and modify.can you give me step by step process.Hi
Try to explode 'Profit Center Group'
Assign points if useful
Sunoj -
Wrong distribution key in profit center planning 7KE1
I have entered the profit center budget in Transaction 7KE1 for profit centet and account using appropriate profile and layout.
The distribution key appearing is "2" however the cost distribution is as per distribution key "1" (equal distribution). Even we tried to change the distribution key from 2 to 1, sap is not saving this changes and shows "2".
Following is our profile configuration"
Planning Area currency distribution key Qty distribution key Doc type
Costs/Revenue 01 01 PO
Statistical Key Figures 02 02 PO
Inventories 02 02 PO
Distribution key filed is there in planning layout. There is no other place default distribution key. Overwrite field is selected in layout.
Please send reply why this is happening.
Thanks,
abhayHello,
The following example is given for cost center planning. However, you can go to Profit Center ==> Planning. Remaining are same except 7KE1. If you configure in this way, you can upload the plan data through excel for profit center.
This is controlled by planning are in your planning profile. You need to use "Cost ctrs: Cost element/activity inputs" planning area for this purpose.
Hope you are conversant with Integrated excel upload.
To do integrated excel upload of cost center plan data.
IMG ==> Controlling ==> Cost Center Accounting ==> Planning ==> Manual Planning User Defined Layouts - Create your own layout or copy from standard layout and change it.
IMG ==> Controlling ==> Cost Center Accounting ==> Planning ==> Define User Defined Planner Profiles
Copy the SAPALL to ZSAPALL. You cannot change SAPALL as it is standard.
In ZSAPALL planner profile, select proper planning area and enter your layout.
Tick Integrate Excel.
Once the popup for KP06 comes, you need enter the data and save it. It would generate the file name.
With the same file name you need upload the plan data by using KP06.
In KP06
Extras ==> Excel Planning ==> Upload
Select the file as prepared in accordance with format at the time of generating the file name.
Hope this solves your problem.
Please let me know if you need futher help.
Regards,
Ravi -
Hi experts
I need a help from you all,
Can we assign budgets to profit centres?
Iam having 2 profit centres which has to be tagged to one account code and each profit centre will have a different Budget,
Help me to assign two profit centres into one account code and also need to assign budgets based on the profit centres.
thank you
best regards
vinodh kumarHi,
If just for reporting purposes that you need to have the following reports:
1) Budget vs Actual for Profit Center A
2) Budget vs Actual for Profit Center B
3) Budget vs Actual for both profit centers.
Then my suggestion is that you create 3 different budget scenarios. Means in Budget 1, you create budget figures that apply to Profit Center A only, then Budget 2 is for Profit Center B and then Budget 3 to have combination of Profit Center A&B's figures.
At the Budget P&L, you will be able to select profit center under 'Expanded' button. Then to compare budget vs actual for Profit Center A, first select the scenario Budget 1 and then go to 'Expanded' button to select Profit Center A only.
Thus you will be able to achieve budget P&L for report 1 above.
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