Budget Setup By Profit Centers

Budget Setup By Profit Centers
Actual Situation
Our Customer working with Budget by Profit Centers Level. In this moment the Budget only can define a Level Account
Partial Solution
Theirs can't create Budget Scenarios by Profits Center, but this is not functional when the customer have many profit center.
Ideal Solution
Can define the Budget, by Profit Center how first Level and Account how second Level.
Regards
Miguel Angel Herrera

Please check this thread:
Budjets-- Project Wise
Thanks,
Gordon

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Profit Centers Query

Hi,
Can anyone tell me how do we assign profit centers and at what levels and where?
Please let me know about the same.
Thanks and Regards,
Kanthi.

Hello Kreddy,
The 1st step is to define it in the cost accounting form --> profit center in the financial module.
It is assigned in the marketing document --> row level, inventory transaction --> row level and UDF (using FMS).
It is clear that the use of profit center (based on F1 help file):
When you create a marketing document that involves revenue and cost of goods sold accounts (such as a delivery, A/R invoice, return, A/R invoice + payment, and A/R credit memo), the transactions are posted to the defaulted revenue and cost of good sold accounts and allocated to the profit centers that were linked to these accounts via the Chart of Accounts.
The following procedure explains how to link different profit centers to the revenue and cost of goods sold accounts in the document and/or row level.
The summary of the above definition is profit center can make your company more selective in the revenue, COGS and budget setup in the business operations.
Rgds,

Is it possible multiple line items debit & single line item credit and different cost centers and different profit centers in fbcj

Hi all ,
I have a requirement to Post Cash Journal Document using FBCJ tcode.
Is it possible multiple line items debit & single line item credit and different cost centers and different profit centers
for exp:
pk   GL a/c   description       amount   cost center profit center
40 400101 telephone exp   500        1403            P 1000
40 400101 telephone exp    100       1404            P 2000
50 200100 cash in hand      600-
   This is My requirement is it possible in fbcj
    Please suggest me.ASAP.
Regards
   Naresh.

Hi,
This you can do it in two ways:
1. Make three header under top level....one Product A, 2nd Product B ( as Billing element) and third as Common expense ( only cost). Now 1st & 2 nd WBS, you have to have sales order linking with individual lint item, for third you will accumulate all the common expense till the period end then make a reposting of the same in desired proportion to both products WBS hierarchy
(This is if you want to have a track on the common expense as well.......like planning, budgeting & control)
After this reposting, run RA for individual billing element and hence you will all the complement detailing and control over Revenue and expense with respect to Product A and Product B individually.
2. If you don't want to maintain that kind of detailing the common expense and keep track of it through project, then have cost centers accordingly and make an assesment/ distribution with respect to expenses accumulated at those cost centers for the period to the respective WBS under each product. Then execute the period end processes for the project.
Or
You can try with have two more line items in the costing sheet as an overhead against common expenses with respect each product.
I hope this should help you.
Regards
Avisek Bhardwaj

Creating Multi-use hierarchy or display of profit centers

Good evening!
I am trying to create a per unit report by profit center for my system. I have multi acute care facilities that all use the same first four digits for their profit centers. My report currently has multiple columns of data by profit center, see below
.....................Stat Actual.....Stat Budget........Rev/Stat Actual.....Rev/Stat Budget
12340001......10.....................15......................100.........................150
12440001......7........................5......................110.........................175
When I change the company code from 0001 to 0010, I get the data for the profit centers under company code 0010. What I want to do is display the two individual profit centers and then add those two profit centers or a range of profit centers (1234 - 1244) for any company code and display a total, like below
.....................Stat Actual.....Stat Budget........Rev/Stat Actual.....Rev/Stat Budget
12340001......10.....................15......................100.........................150
12440001......7........................5......................110.........................175
Lab Total......17.......................20.....................105.........................167
or if I select company code 0010, it will display as follows:
.....................Stat Actual.....Stat Budget........Rev/Stat Actual.....Rev/Stat Budget
12340010......10.....................15......................100.........................150
12440010......7........................5......................110.........................175
Lab total .......17......................20....................105.........................167
Any thoughts on how to create this structure?
Thanks
Kim

Hi.
So basically, you want to make a selection on the profitcenters and keep it constant, while displaying what is posted on this/these profitcenters across a selection of company codes?
You can do this with a variable for profitcenter and a variable for company code. But I would consider fixing the profitcenter keys by removing the last four characters, which represent the company code. Assuming the controlling area (the compund key of profitctr) for any one profitcenter is the same in each company code, you dont have to worry about the controlling area. If it's different for each comp code (so, maybe the last four digits in the profitcenter keys also represent controlling areas??), you can create a variable for controlling area instead of comp code.
If you cant do it by controlling area, because the different comp codes are in the same area, then put the last four digits of the profitcenter keys in the comp code and make a variable on compcode and one on profitcenter and select on both. Put both chars in the rows (pctr, cc) and you get the breakdown you want.
Br
Jacob

Level of profit centers

Hi All
Could you please tell at what level ( level 5 or level 9 ) are the profit centers
maintained in SAP. For example how to find the level of FRBs in the table
BSIS.
Also if anybody can explain me the concept of cost centers, profit centers
and cost center groups.
Regards
Ankit

Hi Ankit,
i am giving the defination of cost centre, profit centre
Cost centres are divisions that add to the cost of the organisation, but only indirectly add to the profit of the company. Examples include Research and Development, Marketing and Customer service. A cost centre is often identified with a speed type number.
Because the cost centre has a negative impact on profit (at least on the surface) it is a likely target for rollbacks and layoffs when budgets are cut. Operational decisions in a contact centre, for example, are typically driven by cost considerations. Financial investments in new equipment, technology and staff are often difficult to justify to management because indirect profitability is hard to translate to bottom-line figures.
Business metrics are sometimes employed to quantify the benefits of a cost centre and relate costs and benefits to those of the organisation as a whole. In a contact centre, for example, metrics such as average handle time, service level and cost per call are used in conjunction with other calculations to justify current or improved funding.
Profit Center Accounting provides visibility of an organizations profit and losses by profit center. The methods which can be utilized for EC-PCA (Profit Center Accounting) are period accounting or by the cost-of-sales approach. Profit Centers can be set-up to identify product lines, divisions, geographical regions, offices, production sites or by functions. Profit Centers are used for Internal Control purposes enabling management the ability to review areas of responsibility within their organization. The difference between a Cost Center and a Profit Center is that the Cost Center represents individual costs incurred during a given period and Profit Centers contain the balances of costs and revenues.
nagesh

Work around for making Budget on the Profit center level

Dears,
Kindly inform me if it's applicable to make a Budget on the profit center , my workaround it to make a validation rule for the profit centers before the document is posted the system check the planning data for the profit center with the G/L account and if it's less than the amount exist in the table the document can be posted.
i don't know if it's applicable or not to make such a rule, also the standard SAP does not support Budget on the profit center.
if it can be done, kindly inform me with steps for it.
Thanks in advance.
Ahmed Samir

For cost center the following note can give you some info 68366 - Active Availability Control for Cost Centers
I think you could do something similar to get a budget function with profit center. Creating a statistical IO for each profit center and make sure that posting are always done to these IO (whatever real object is being used in combination with your profit center).
But then it will limit the use of budgeting of WBS, IM, etc...

How can I get all prctr ( profit centers ) ?

While creating function module,
I have created import parameter as 'ZIMPORT_PRCTR' for Profit Center
( cepc-prctr ) in my zfunction module .
It takes( imports ) input of multiple values Profit Center.
Next what I need to do is, if end user enters multiple values of profit center
( IF ZIMPORT_PRCTR[] IS NOT INITIAL. )
Then I have to use user entered values for picking up some other data from other tables.
Ques). IF user dont enter any profit center value, then
I need to take all profit centers into consideration and pick up other data from other tables .
How can I get all profit centers ( if user doest enters any value )
And I don't have any values to use in my where condition ?
Could you please help me ?

create one structure in Se11 like
profit center low
profit center high
option
sign ( Like select-option ,see the rsparams structure),use this strucire in Function module ..
when compare the data in select query ,in where condition use as in operator,if user does not enter any value ,it gets the all the value from table.

G/L Account Line Items/ Profit Centers/ FBL3N/ F.5D/1KEK/KE5Z/BalanceSheet?

Hi Experts,
Am running FBL3N-G/L Line Item Display, and am trying to get PROFIT CENTERS for Balanace sheet type of accounts, but Its not showing up.
But, am getting for Profit Loss accounts.
1) Why its so?
2) Then How to get the PROFIT CENTERS for them? (I know they r available, in BSEG)
3) Functional owner said(tele talk, no voice clear!!!) that, the Profit Centers are NOT get updated UNTIL month end, unless run the F.5D, 1KEK, KE5Z tx.s., which inturn system copies the profit centers(I dont know that, From where it copies) and posts/updates(I dont know, Wht get updated?), so, he said, relying on ??(is it BSEG??????) is not works out!!
So, let me know that,
Wht does its mean? Wht NOt get updated until month end?unless run the F.5D, 1KEK, KE5Z tx.s? Is it DataBase? BSEG?
4) Is BSEG table get updated, as soon as any FICO document ceated by user? I mean, Can I relay on BSEG always, for pulling the profit centers data for Balance sheet accounts, all the time?
5) If NOT, them Where Can I find them?
thanq

Hi Srinivas,
You have to declare balance sheet accounts as relevant for PCA inside 3KEH transaction in config. So you mark the balance sheet accounts that should appear in PCA in 3KEH with a default profit center which can be overwritten with the use entry.
Fixed Assets, AR/AP and WIP can be transferred into PCA at the monthend. PCA is a separate ledger, has its own set of tables and reports. Inventory and other balance sheet accounts are posted into PCA online.
Hope this helps.
Sharabh Ivaturi

G/L Account Line Items/ Profit Centers/ FBL3N/ F.5D/1KEK/KE5Z/Balance Sheet

Hi Experts,
Am running FBL3N-G/L Line Item Display, and am trying to get PROFIT CENTERS for Balanace sheet type of accounts, but Its not showing up.
But, am getting for Profit Loss accounts.
1) Why its so?
2) Then How to get the PROFIT CENTERS for them? (I know they r available, in BSEG)
3) Functional owner said(tele talk, no voice clear!!!) that, the Profit Centers are NOT get updated UNTIL month end, unless run the F.5D, 1KEK, KE5Z tx.s., which inturn system copies the profit centers(I dont know that, From where it copies) and posts/updates(I dont know, Wht get updated?), so, he said, relying on ??(is it BSEG??????) is not works out!!
So, let me know that,
Wht does its mean? Wht NOt get updated until month end?unless run the F.5D, 1KEK, KE5Z tx.s? Is it DataBase? BSEG?
4) Is BSEG table get updated, as soon as any FICO document ceated by user? I mean, Can I relay on BSEG always, for pulling the profit centers data for Balance sheet accounts, all the time?
5) If NOT, them Where Can I find them?
thanq
Edited by: Srinivas on Apr 7, 2008 3:42 PM

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Having Multiple Material Codes with Different Profit Centers in one Plant

Hi,
Can someone explain me what impact it will have, if there are different Material Codes with multiple profit centers in a single plant? For example, say Material 1 has Profit Center as PC1 and Material 2 has Profit Center as PC2 and they are in a single plant. Will this have impact on Financial Transactions?
Thanks and Regards,
Sameer Joshi

Hi Sameer
No negative impact.. It is very much possible and logical
All the purchases made - > Stocks and vendor liability will be tagged to the PC of the Material
All the sales made -> COGS, Revenue and Customer Liability will be tagged to the PC of the material, unless you overwrite using a Substitution
Br, Ajay M

How to get balance sheet report for profit centers

hi
how to get balance sheet report for profit centers, is there any transcation code to get that report or i need to create a report painter report for this

Hi,
You can use T. code KE5Z for actual line items.
More to this you can use program RFBILA10 (Use T. code SE38 and program RFBILA10) for complete blance sheet.
The transaction is for special purpose ledger but this program RFBILA10 can be used for profit center balance also.
In selection, you can give ledger name which is generally 8A for profit center ledger.
Reg

Profit Centers(CEPCT) selection with Wild Characters(*) condition

HI, I'm trying to select Profit centers from CEPCT table for the given profit center parameter. here I'm trying with wild characters.
for example: 1.
* check if wild character exists
    FIND c_st IN p_i_profit_ctr.
    IF sy-subrc EQ 0.
* replace * with %
      REPLACE ALL OCCURRENCES OF c_st IN p_i_profit_ctr WITH c_pr.
* get profit center list for given pattern
      SELECT prctr "Profit Center
             ktext "General Name
          FROM cepct INTO TABLE t_profit_ctr
        WHERE spras = c_en              "english language
        AND   prctr LIKE p_i_profit_ctr.   "profit center
CEPCT table data is:
Profit Center
0000001000
0000002000
CORPORATE
(1) when I try with C*, i'm getting properly.
(2)when I try with 1, I'm getting it properly.
(3) when I try with 1*, not getting data even if 1000 is available. this is beacuse leading zeores in the table.
Could anyone please help me out how do I write a qeury to rectrive the above. (Note: we may not be sure how many zeroes to be included, I hope this is not good practive to include zeroes because in case of 200/2000 which will not work and for chars which will not be good code)
thanks in advance.

Hi,
Its better to specify a range for profit center in the selection screen and he use in your query as follows:
Example :
ranges r_profcent FOR GLPCA-RPRCTR.
Query to fetch Range:
SELECT PRCTR INTO R_PROFCENT-LOW
FROM CEPC
WHERE ( PRCTR BETWEEN '0000001111' AND '0000009999'
    OR PRCTR = 'DUMMY' )
    AND KOKRS = '1000'.
    R_PROFCENT-SIGN = 'I'.
    R_PROFCENT-OPTION = 'EQ'.
    APPEND R_PROFCENT.
Use of range in Query:
SELECT REFDOCNR RPRCTR BLDAT BUDAT
FROM GLPCA CLIENT SPECIFIED
APPENDING CORRESPONDING FIELDS OF TABLE ITAB1
WHERE RCLNT = SY-MANDT
    AND RPRCTR IN R_PROFCENT
    AND RACCT IN GLACNO
Hope it could help you out.
Regds,
Anil

New GL Profit Centers not updated with Reposting of costs in CO

Hi,
There is one concern, which I am not able to address.
In case one reposts primary costs to different cost centers which in turn has different profit centers, the PCA report gets updated since it is posted in CO.
However, in case of New GL Profit center reports the values are displayed in the original profit center posted and not in the reposted profit center. I understand that the reposting is done only in CO, but then there would be a mismatch in the PCA reports and the New GL profit center reports.
Please suggest any solution to this.

Hi
check the path and see if Account Determination between CO & FI is active for the variant defined and assigned to your company code:
IMG>Financial Accounting>Financial Accounting Global Settings>Ledgers>Real time Integration between Controlling & FI>Define variants for Real Time Integration.
Regards
Sanil Bhandari

Usage of Cost Centers, Profit Centers and Internal Orders

Hello everyone,
i have perhaps for some of you a simple question but it bothers me alot.
Imagine we are using Cost centers and Internal Orders. For them we create statistical key figures using transaction KB31N.
Now we are installing SAP BI and want to create a report which would be generated acording to cost centers but with statistical key figures.
The question would be how to make a connection between cost centers orders and those stat.key.figs?
In our case the economists say that we are using this kind of scenario:
Dist.chanel ->
Sender: Cost center, Cost element
Receiver: Int.Order
and Stat key fig.
This is the only place where we have a connection between thos objects. Is there other way how to connect them. perhaps using profit centers?
If somebody didnt understand it, maybe ill try to explain it a bit better
Reagards
Laurynas Prikockis

Hi Laurynas,
Pls try to understand the concept as explained hereunder...
Cost Element:
Primary Cost Element : Replication of GL to bring costs into CO module when they are posted in FI
                                   module
Secondary Cost Elements: Carriers of costs between two Cost Objects (when we want to transfer the
                                        cost from Cost Centers to Internal Orders, vice versa and more, we create
                                        Secondary Cost Elements to carry the costs and transfer them to the
                                        reciever objects from sender objects)
Cost Center: It is a Cost Object, maintained on long-term basis, where we can capture the costs (Ex:
                    Marketing Cost Center)
Internal Order: It is also a Cost Object, maintained on shor-term basis, where we can capture the costs
                     (Ex: Internal Order for Special Marketing Campaign). Ultimately, whatever the costs
                      posted to this Internal Order, will get settled to Marketing Cost Center.
Staitistical Key Figure: It is used as a basis for allocation of certain expenses (Simple example would
                                  be, Total rent paid for office is $100000 per month. This cost has to go to
                                  different Cost Centers like Finance and Accounts, Marketing, Purchase Dept
                                  etc on the basis of "Area Occupied". So, We will define "Area Occupied" as a
                                  Statistical Key Figure in our system.
                                 Now, when the Rent amount is posted in FI, it wil reach a Virtual Cost Center
                                 (An "Allocation Cost Center" with name "Rent" to be created under your
                                 Controlling Area) "Rent". From there, it has to reach the other Cost Centers (lie
                                 F&A etc as explained above) on the basis of Area Occupied (SKF Created
                                 for "area occupied")
For this, you need enter the Area Occupied values (Ex:Sq Ft) in KB31N and you need to create an Allocation Cycle (Distribution / Assessment) where in you will select "Area Occupied" (SKF) as your Receiver Tracing Factor.
I hope I am clear, don't hesitate to revert back for more explanation...
Srikanth Munnaluri
Edited by: Srikanth Munnaluri on Mar 3, 2009 7:26 PM

Repostings of data in profit centers

Hi!
any one can tell me can we report revenues between profit centers as we will done in the case of Cost Centers ( KB11N,KB61)?
Not through distribution and assessment.
I have configured some revenue elements to internal order in OKB9 and in internal order profit center is assigned.
As we forgotten to insert profit center in internal orders, all revenues posted to Dummy profit center.
Now we want to repost from dummy profit center to actual profit center.
regs,
ramesh

Hi,
You can always repost the values from dummy profit center to correct profit center.
Please try the relevent option.
Let me know if u have questions
Best Regards
Surya

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