Budgeting functionality/calc tools in data forms

Hi!  Can anyone tell me the ways to explore the planning and budgeting funcationalities or calculation tools that's offered in dataforms in Planning workspace or Smartview.  The training courses I attended only touched on this topic, but I'd like to go a little deeper on this.  If there're training courses available, please let me know too.  My goal is to see if eventually the end users can quit relying on Excel spreadsheet but rather use workspace/Smartview directly to do their forecasting work .  Right now, all of our end users still do their modeling in spreadsheet and then link the dataforms to their models for data submitting.
Thanks!

Hi,
I personally feel some features of Hyperion are really over-kill and will never be widely used. You cannot just replace Excel and make it disappear from Finance's desktop, that's why Oracle is investing so much on integrating with it rather than competing with it. Surely, spread, adjust are good features to have but have never been my favorite as they solely rely on the data on the screen, not the data on the database. However, I have written in many number of occasions so powerful allocation calculations, it made some pretentious Excel-pros bite their fingers ends out of envy. Now as for the questions:
Q. Is Hyperion Planning powerful?
A. Hell yeah!
Q. Can it replace Excel completely?
A. Hell no!
Q. What about those who calculate their budget in Excel and load into Hyperion?
A. They are nuts.
Cheers,
Alp

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