Budgetory Commitment Items for Recon. accounts

Hi Experts,
I have a requirement of budgeting trade creditors in SAP. Currently in our legacy system we are budgeting trade creditors as well as expenses.
Now as per SAP point of view my understanding is that we can only budget expense and revenue items. But for recon. accounts like vendor and customer, budgeting is not possible in SAP. I tried creating a commitment item for vendor recon. account with financial transaction 30 and commitment item category 3 and the same was assigned to recon. account in FS00. I posted budget in this commitment item with reference to fund and fund center through FMBB(T.code). Budget category "payment" was used for posting this budget and budget was successfully posted. Now when i tried to post the invoice to vendor, the system asks me to enter fund and fund center in vendor line item as well. i provided the fund and fund center in vendor line item to which i posted budget earlier in FMBB. the document gets posted without any error but when i view the budget consumption report instead of deducting invoice amount from the consumable budget amount and show the net available budget system add this in the consumable budget and shows the net result as bellow:
can any one guide if budgeting of such item is possible in sap FM or can we just budget P/L items? need your guidance please.

Hi,
Payments made to a vendor can be tracked through FI/FI-CA modules.
As for PSM-FM, please, comprehend and explain to your client two important points:
a) You won't be able to budget a vendor separately, but only, and still hypothetically, through reconciliation account, which makes the whole thing meaningless, as there will be no control on specific vendor
b) You won't stop payment, from business perspective, to a vendor on duly registered invoice just because 'the budget was exceeded'
If your client is interested to follow the payments, he can 'budget' bank accounts. Again, this does not make any sense (at least, a blocking budgeting), because the control is already applied through treasury components and bank account balance itself. Still, technically, it could be done.
Regards,
Eli

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Moderator: Use LSMW

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Edited by: Chris Farr on Nov 24, 2008 12:14 PM

Just read Eli's msg clearly, its mentioned that GLs have to be assigned to Commitment with right category and Fin transacton. Just explored the IDES FM areas 1000,3000 and 4000 and understood the following but with couple of questions ( mentioned below)
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Asset exp                     30/3
GR/IR - Clearing     40/3
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All other bank chk pable/ Recbles     80/3
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Trade payable     60/3     it make sense, but in FM area 3000, Receivables defined as 30/3 ?
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Input tax                     30/2     Why category '2' here?
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